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legendary
Activity: 3836
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
December 17, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
This is mining gear though and not some extremely accessible videogame. How many times has the first run be affordable and then the demand goes insane and the cost is nuts to try and jump on? I guess I take Gamble's with hardware.

Everyone's risk tolerance level is different as long as you know what it is before making a move then you are doing it right.

I was making a extreme example of the foolishness of the masses.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
December 16, 2018, 10:13:52 PM
Yeh, there are a lot of people on these mining boards of late, saying that mining is stupid, pointless and worthless.

Maybe they are right, but I don't go down to my local Ford showroom every day to tell them how terrible their cars are... Methinks they doth protest too much...

IOU 1 sM+

I gave him 2.

 1 from me and 1 from you

thx. Smiley

for me  if they had the software I would want one to play with.

My fingers are in a lot of pies.

but  waiting  for gear in this day and age  no longer works for me.

I can get  all kinds of gear in under 10 days.  with cc or paypal  and I have a large credit line with paypal six months zero interest.

So buying a gear in July and waiting to August  was a stretch for me.  Multiple postponements for the gear to come and I did not ask for refund until one day I realized gear would come without software.  I did not want the annoyance.  And got a refund 10  days  before btc tanked.

I was luck but it was not for the money  this was to be a fun buy a toy to play with.

 Was not meant   but I will buy one once it has software.

Your preaching to the choir, I decided that these fpga's were not worth the risk to pre order.
I've seen too many of these things fail as well.
I have no clue how all these retards pre buy games from large corporations and then cry when the game is shit and they can't return it.
And then they do it again the next AAA title, sheeple I'll never understand them.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
December 16, 2018, 09:03:46 PM
Yeh, there are a lot of people on these mining boards of late, saying that mining is stupid, pointless and worthless.

Maybe they are right, but I don't go down to my local Ford showroom every day to tell them how terrible their cars are... Methinks they doth protest too much...

IOU 1 sM+

I gave him 2.

 1 from me and 1 from you

thx. Smiley

for me  if they had the software I would want one to play with.

My fingers are in a lot of pies.

but  waiting  for gear in this day and age  no longer works for me.

I can get  all kinds of gear in under 10 days.  with cc or paypal  and I have a large credit line with paypal six months zero interest.

So buying a gear in July and waiting to August  was a stretch for me.  Multiple postponements for the gear to come and I did not ask for refund until one day I realized gear would come without software.  I did not want the annoyance.  And got a refund 10  days  before btc tanked.

I was luck but it was not for the money  this was to be a fun buy a toy to play with.

 Was not meant   but I will buy one once it has software.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
December 16, 2018, 08:22:32 PM
Yeh, there are a lot of people on these mining boards of late, saying that mining is stupid, pointless and worthless.

Maybe they are right, but I don't go down to my local Ford showroom every day to tell them how terrible their cars are... Methinks they doth protest too much...

IOU 1 sM+

I gave him 2.

 1 from me and 1 from you

thx. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
December 16, 2018, 05:26:43 PM
Yeh, there are a lot of people on these mining boards of late, saying that mining is stupid, pointless and worthless.

Maybe they are right, but I don't go down to my local Ford showroom every day to tell them how terrible their cars are... Methinks they doth protest too much...

IOU 1 sM+

I gave him 2.

 1 from me and 1 from you
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
December 16, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Yeh, there are a lot of people on these mining boards of late, saying that mining is stupid, pointless and worthless.

Maybe they are right, but I don't go down to my local Ford showroom every day to tell them how terrible their cars are... Methinks they doth protest too much...

IOU 1 sM+
member
Activity: 357
Merit: 26
December 16, 2018, 04:24:13 PM
Yeh, there are a lot of people on these mining boards of late, saying that mining is stupid, pointless and worthless.

Maybe they are right, but I don't go down to my local Ford showroom every day to tell them how terrible their cars are... Methinks they doth protest too much...
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 4
December 16, 2018, 03:49:11 PM
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Yes actually I’d love to see it happen. (Not for me of course)  More people are getting burnt the longer this drags on.  What they didn’t know was this is par for the course in crypto.  At some point this isn’t alpha tech.  FPGA been out many years.  As with the software to mine on these Algos.  Many things went wrong here.  Unproven claims were made and advertised.  Do I think they need sued. No. I honestly think this was well intentioned but to those of us that have seen this time and time again well....   I guess it’s my bad for projecting onto them what I thought they should have known.  Next time instead of assuming they have been in this scene for a minute we all should have asked the proper questions. Like Phil said mfurman asked the hard questions.  That should have set of many red flags for you folks.  A hard lesson learned seems to stick with one the best.  “Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me”!

BR

I agree about the 'drama queen' aspect of Crypto.  But anyone who has ever done tech support of any kind, and done it well, knows about what a vast time suck technology can present.  

However, I fall on the side of "they are well-intentioned," this isn't a scam, but yes it is late.  If you want to raise constructive red flags in the future, I think that is a good thing to do.  But with so many real scams out there, why go after a project where you suspect the people behind it are well-intentioned?  I don't quite follow that.  Of all the targets you could pick, why this particular one?

He has spoken about other ones not this just this one.

Yes, if I recall he spoke out against the Zcash group for saying "fork!" and then "hey, we won't fork."  I understood that better.  I have gotten quite worked up about certain scams.  This doesn't seem to fit in that bucket. That's what I am wondering about.

Edit:  If you buy what d57heinz is saying, we are all wasting our time (and our money).  Whether you are looking at other ASIC hardware, or other FPGA solutions that are shipping, ALL of it will come to nothing-I think that is his point.  But I notice that people are very much exploring other options.  Not much excitement about any GPU that I can find, but all kinds of threads about new hardware.  If it will all prove to be an enormous waste, then I can think of better targets than this one.  So I am left head-scratching.  That's all.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
December 16, 2018, 03:47:18 PM
Quote

Yes actually I’d love to see it happen. (Not for me of course)  More people are getting burnt the longer this drags on.  What they didn’t know was this is par for the course in crypto.  At some point this isn’t alpha tech.  FPGA been out many years.  As with the software to mine on these Algos.  Many things went wrong here.  Unproven claims were made and advertised.  Do I think they need sued. No. I honestly think this was well intentioned but to those of us that have seen this time and time again well....   I guess it’s my bad for projecting onto them what I thought they should have known.  Next time instead of assuming they have been in this scene for a minute we all should have asked the proper questions. Like Phil said mfurman asked the hard questions.  That should have set of many red flags for you folks.  A hard lesson learned seems to stick with one the best.  “Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me”!

BR

I agree about the 'drama queen' aspect of Crypto.  But anyone who has ever done tech support of any kind, and done it well, knows about what a vast time suck technology can present.  

However, I fall on the side of "they are well-intentioned," this isn't a scam, but yes it is late.  If you want to raise constructive red flags in the future, I think that is a good thing to do.  But with so many real scams out there, why go after a project where you suspect the people behind it are well-intentioned?  I don't quite follow that.  Of all the targets you could pick, why this particular one?

He has spoken about other ones not this just this one.
He has been pretty much anti mining in general for years.
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 4
December 16, 2018, 03:41:29 PM
Quote

Yes actually I’d love to see it happen. (Not for me of course)  More people are getting burnt the longer this drags on.  What they didn’t know was this is par for the course in crypto.  At some point this isn’t alpha tech.  FPGA been out many years.  As with the software to mine on these Algos.  Many things went wrong here.  Unproven claims were made and advertised.  Do I think they need sued. No. I honestly think this was well intentioned but to those of us that have seen this time and time again well....   I guess it’s my bad for projecting onto them what I thought they should have known.  Next time instead of assuming they have been in this scene for a minute we all should have asked the proper questions. Like Phil said mfurman asked the hard questions.  That should have set of many red flags for you folks.  A hard lesson learned seems to stick with one the best.  “Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me”!

BR

I agree about the 'drama queen' aspect of Crypto.  But anyone who has ever done tech support of any kind, and done it well, knows about what a vast time suck technology can present.  

However, I fall on the side of "they are well-intentioned," this isn't a scam, but yes it is late.  If you want to raise constructive red flags in the future, I think that is a good thing to do.  But with so many real scams out there, why go after a project where you suspect the people behind it are well-intentioned?  I don't quite follow that.  Of all the targets you could pick, why this particular one?
jr. member
Activity: 173
Merit: 2
December 16, 2018, 12:27:24 PM
No rumors of a lawsuit for lack of a miner to be provided. ( I meant mining software )

They had all those acceleration numbers posted in June or July.

They never demo'd an acorn  and no proof that an acorn could do those claims.

I feel lawsuits are coming.

To be fair if the gear can do as claimed maybe ohGodaGirl  fucked him hard and is refusing to give him the software to make it so.

I think she wanted more money for that software he said no and figured they could write it.  So far a real beating to those that purchased the gear.


My thanks to mfurman and his constant attacks on discord I know he is why I bailed out and saved myself 800 usd.

I wonder how many others bailed due to his constant questioning.

Hats off to mfurman!

Hey if ohGodaGirl is holding up the software someone can email me so I will know it is true.

WOW. I did not expect it :-) Thank you. I thought that the miner was a critical proof that the checks had been done. I wanted to try it with GPUs only to test the quality of boost
legendary
Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011
Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
December 16, 2018, 10:21:24 AM
Either prove it can do what it originally was sold to do or start issuing refunds.

How much skin do you have in this game? Did you purchase Acorns or Nest cards? I have skin in the game and so do others here.

Phil had skin in the game, requested a refund for the gear he ordered, and received it a while ago. Maybe not as fast as he would have liked, but he did receive a refund. Many others have done the same for Acorns, Nests, and BCUs. If you want a refund I'll bet that if you contacted SQRL support they'd refund your money.

I opted to stick it out for basically the same reasons as vapourminer. I went in with my eyes wide open knowing that there were likely to be some hiccups along the way. That's almost always the case with pre-order hardware and software to power it. I'll take my lumps and bumps and see where things go when the bear market reverses Soon(TM).


^^^ Yes, this exactly.  Lots of complaining from people who received refunds.  Once your money is returned, I think that is the end of it.  It hasn't been smooth sailing, but the Discord chatter is promising and hardware has been delivered.  Is it on time?  No.  Is that much of a surprise in Cryptoville?  No.  You want to really piss yourself off, go deal with Obelisk.

Well if you really want me to add it up.  Let’s see I started in March of 2014 learning about mining etc.  spent countless hours all nighters etc keeping up with this drama queen shit.  Not to mention the money.  A farm now that collects dust.  Dectralized they said.  My ass!!  As usual it always filters to whoever has more resources.  Everyone likes to tout that btc had a “fair” start.  Bs.  Only fair launch would be upon a world with equal resources. Every person on earth gets one machine.  Yea I know I’m dreaming. But so are you to think this can ever work.  So there!   Anyway I have actual human effort spent on this.  I don’t have more money than braincells that I can spend more than I can afford to lose.  My situation is such than I can’t afford to lose any more than I got.  This project failed me and countless others.  Don’t be naive. It’s part of its design.  Yes you will be on that list eventually. Mark my words

BR

So are you saying you can't wait for the SQRL Miner to be released?


Yes actually I’d love to see it happen. (Not for me of course)  More people are getting burnt the longer this drags on.  What they didn’t know was this is par for the course in crypto.  At some point this isn’t alpha tech.  FPGA been out many years.  As with the software to mine on these Algos.  Many things went wrong here.  Unproven claims were made and advertised.  Do I think they need sued. No. I honestly think this was well intentioned but to those of us that have seen this time and time again well....   I guess it’s my bad for projecting onto them what I thought they should have known.  Next time instead of assuming they have been in this scene for a minute we all should have asked the proper questions. Like Phil said mfurman asked the hard questions.  That should have set of many red flags for you folks.  A hard lesson learned seems to stick with one the best.  “Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me”!

BR
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
December 16, 2018, 09:15:02 AM
Either prove it can do what it originally was sold to do or start issuing refunds.

How much skin do you have in this game? Did you purchase Acorns or Nest cards? I have skin in the game and so do others here.

Phil had skin in the game, requested a refund for the gear he ordered, and received it a while ago. Maybe not as fast as he would have liked, but he did receive a refund. Many others have done the same for Acorns, Nests, and BCUs. If you want a refund I'll bet that if you contacted SQRL support they'd refund your money.

I opted to stick it out for basically the same reasons as vapourminer. I went in with my eyes wide open knowing that there were likely to be some hiccups along the way. That's almost always the case with pre-order hardware and software to power it. I'll take my lumps and bumps and see where things go when the bear market reverses Soon(TM).


^^^ Yes, this exactly.  Lots of complaining from people who received refunds.  Once your money is returned, I think that is the end of it.  It hasn't been smooth sailing, but the Discord chatter is promising and hardware has been delivered.  Is it on time?  No.  Is that much of a surprise in Cryptoville?  No.  You want to really piss yourself off, go deal with Obelisk.

Well if you really want me to add it up.  Let’s see I started in March of 2014 learning about mining etc.  spent countless hours all nighters etc keeping up with this drama queen shit.  Not to mention the money.  A farm now that collects dust.  Dectralized they said.  My ass!!  As usual it always filters to whoever has more resources.  Everyone likes to tout that btc had a “fair” start.  Bs.  Only fair launch would be upon a world with equal resources. Every person on earth gets one machine.  Yea I know I’m dreaming. But so are you to think this can ever work.  So there!   Anyway I have actual human effort spent on this.  I don’t have more money than braincells that I can spend more than I can afford to lose.  My situation is such than I can’t afford to lose any more than I got.  This project failed me and countless others.  Don’t be naive. It’s part of its design.  Yes you will be on that list eventually. Mark my words

BR

So are you saying you can't wait for the SQRL Miner to be released?
legendary
Activity: 1453
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Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
December 16, 2018, 07:54:54 AM
Either prove it can do what it originally was sold to do or start issuing refunds.

How much skin do you have in this game? Did you purchase Acorns or Nest cards? I have skin in the game and so do others here.

Phil had skin in the game, requested a refund for the gear he ordered, and received it a while ago. Maybe not as fast as he would have liked, but he did receive a refund. Many others have done the same for Acorns, Nests, and BCUs. If you want a refund I'll bet that if you contacted SQRL support they'd refund your money.

I opted to stick it out for basically the same reasons as vapourminer. I went in with my eyes wide open knowing that there were likely to be some hiccups along the way. That's almost always the case with pre-order hardware and software to power it. I'll take my lumps and bumps and see where things go when the bear market reverses Soon(TM).


^^^ Yes, this exactly.  Lots of complaining from people who received refunds.  Once your money is returned, I think that is the end of it.  It hasn't been smooth sailing, but the Discord chatter is promising and hardware has been delivered.  Is it on time?  No.  Is that much of a surprise in Cryptoville?  No.  You want to really piss yourself off, go deal with Obelisk.

Well if you really want me to add it up.  Let’s see I started in March of 2014 learning about mining etc.  spent countless hours all nighters etc keeping up with this drama queen shit.  Not to mention the money.  A farm now that collects dust.  Dectralized they said.  My ass!!  As usual it always filters to whoever has more resources.  Everyone likes to tout that btc had a “fair” start.  Bs.  Only fair launch would be upon a world with equal resources. Every person on earth gets one machine.  Yea I know I’m dreaming. But so are you to think this can ever work.  So there!   Anyway I have actual human effort spent on this.  I don’t have more money than braincells that I can spend more than I can afford to lose.  My situation is such than I can’t afford to lose any more than I got.  This project failed me and countless others.  Don’t be naive. It’s part of its design.  Yes you will be on that list eventually. Mark my words

BR
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 4
December 15, 2018, 04:22:59 PM
Either prove it can do what it originally was sold to do or start issuing refunds.

How much skin do you have in this game? Did you purchase Acorns or Nest cards? I have skin in the game and so do others here.

Phil had skin in the game, requested a refund for the gear he ordered, and received it a while ago. Maybe not as fast as he would have liked, but he did receive a refund. Many others have done the same for Acorns, Nests, and BCUs. If you want a refund I'll bet that if you contacted SQRL support they'd refund your money.

I opted to stick it out for basically the same reasons as vapourminer. I went in with my eyes wide open knowing that there were likely to be some hiccups along the way. That's almost always the case with pre-order hardware and software to power it. I'll take my lumps and bumps and see where things go when the bear market reverses Soon(TM).


^^^ Yes, this exactly.  Lots of complaining from people who received refunds.  Once your money is returned, I think that is the end of it.  It hasn't been smooth sailing, but the Discord chatter is promising and hardware has been delivered.  Is it on time?  No.  Is that much of a surprise in Cryptoville?  No.  You want to really piss yourself off, go deal with Obelisk.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
December 15, 2018, 10:54:39 AM
Has anyone received the CLEs yet? or has there been any updates on shipping dates, etc? we're dying to try them out

I got mine. It was the CLE-101. With no GPU boost (I guess as a stand alone?) since no support yet , the Acorn runs 150MH/s with the one bitstream available running sorta worthless coin (correct me if Im wrong) Zen Protocol and for reference, the GTX 1070 Ti FTW2 I have in my gaming rig runs 890+ MH/s running CCminer
legendary
Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011
Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
December 15, 2018, 09:55:17 AM
When it comes to me.  I am the only one that can be trusted.  Putting trust into another person that also only has their best interest is recipe for failure.  As one can see it play out here. When push comes to shove. Money talks bullshit walks.  Guess it’s time for me to change that back for my quote.  Everyone walking away from crypto that was only here for the money.  And look what’s left lol.  Won’t be shit.  Plus satoshi original vision of pow is flawed when we have unequal resources across the world.  A system built upon greed has only one outcome.  Just like cancer it canabalizes itself.  Don’t be on a sinking ship!

legendary
Activity: 2294
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
December 15, 2018, 09:45:18 AM
I agree.  A group buy is hard enough to pull off but this turned into a hosting/bitstream/software business...And considering crypto will probably stay low for another year how long can he pay salaries, etc?  Sad as Trump would say. 

edit: Only person that can be trusted is w0lf but I dont know what he is up to, and he didnt seem involved in any way with ohgodagirl's shenanigans.  He doesnt seem active anymore.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
December 15, 2018, 09:15:15 AM


Sad cause I think the owner of squirrels is a good guy.  I think he was sucked in by that damn enlargement pill.

All guess work on my part no facts , but it does fit the picture.
newbie
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Merit: 0
December 15, 2018, 07:41:18 AM
oh, indulge more please.
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