Activity & new membergroup limits - page 36.

iluvpie60

hero member

Activity: 700

Merit: 500

Quote from: Salmon1989 on August 20, 2014, 01:06:39 PM

Quote from: sammy007 on August 20, 2014, 11:16:59 AM

Quote from: Gervais on August 20, 2014, 10:34:48 AM

Quote from: sammy007 on August 20, 2014, 10:21:50 AM

My stats didn't update. How it happened?!

If its true that your activity didnt update its probably because you posted before the new period started so youll now just have to wait an hour for it to update since youve just posted.

Ok, activity now updated, but I am still full member. Strange...

Update: well, =) seems this post was necessary.

Yes. You activity isn't going to go up automatically when a new period comes.
You need to make a post, hence increase the "time" value by 1, and wait for at most an hour for the activity to be updated.

if it already went up by 14 in the current 2 week period, you have to wait until the next period starts and the current one ends. so if you made 28 posts now basically you gained the 14 activity, then when the next period starts you will instantly gain another 14 activity. that is the most basic way i can explain it, but u only go up 14 activity per 2 week period.

Minnlo

hero member

Activity: 868

Merit: 1000

Quote from: Milkcookie on August 21, 2014, 04:49:52 PM

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 21, 2014, 04:34:23 PM

I have had several periods when I received more than 14 points in one single 2 week period. Does anybody know how I did that or how that happened? Clearly the 14 points variable has other options but I have never seen anything discussed about it.

Does anybody know anything about this? Thx.

Regards...

i got 28 in just 4 days Huh

Because you joined bitcointalk in a good timing.

You joined on August 18 and made some posts on that day.
A new 2-week period starts on Aug 19 and you have made some more posts since then.
So, you have been active in 2 different periods and have a "time" value of 2 in the activity formula.

Minnlo

hero member

Activity: 868

Merit: 1000

Quote from: micax1 on August 21, 2014, 02:39:49 PM

time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
- how I now what it is now?

You have a post number of 367 and an activity level of 350, and so your "time" value is 25 now.
Activity formula: activity = min(time * 14, posts)

keithers

legendary

Activity: 1456

Merit: 1001

This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 21, 2014, 04:34:23 PM

I have had several periods when I received more than 14 points in one single 2 week period. Does anybody know how I did that or how that happened? Clearly the 14 points variable has other options but I have never seen anything discussed about it.

Does anybody know anything about this? Thx.

Regards...

Yes, I have seen it. I think your activity will bump up by more than the 14 points in a 2 week period if you have made a lot of posts and your points are catching up from another period that you may have not posted (or received points for).

That is why some of the older users have pretty close to the same activity points as they do post count...

dree12

legendary

Activity: 1246

Merit: 1077

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 21, 2014, 04:59:42 PM

Quote from: dree12 on August 21, 2014, 04:52:30 PM

This current activity system was in place last Christmas. In addition, 1500 is more than enough activity to be a Hero Member. You must have gotten dates mixed up somewhere.

The dates are correct. I don't remember exactly how many posts I had but it was a lot cause many people were commenting on it.

I think the old system also had a time variable - where you had to be logged on for a certain number of hours and unlike now, it took a long time to accrue just 1 single day. So maybe I wasn't hero yet due to the time constraint which took a while to accumulate.

I don't remember exactly but I am certain I was Senior level and was very close to HERO cause I was looking forward to it and I am also certain I lost it all just cause I went on vacation.

And if you look at my post history from the beginning, I was not posting 2 word spam posts, I was simply very active. I posted long hours everyday just to have it taken away without any warning.

I should easily be a legendary member now yet I'm still not even a hero member.

The system put in place has always been like this and has not changed since it was implemented, in June last year. This can be confirmed with a search on the Wayback machine, or perhaps the below quote from Meni Rosenfeld:

Quote from: Meni Rosenfeld on June 18, 2013, 04:10:31 PM

Quote from: theymos on June 18, 2013, 03:44:42 PM

time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

I don't like it.

It embodies the assumption that any post above once per day (averaged over two weeks) is not contributing; which I do not agree with.

At the very least number of posts per day should be increased, e.g. min(time * 28, posts).

And you should consider more sophisticated metrics such as sum of f(x) over all two-week periods, f(x) being x / (1 + sqrt(x/14)) or x / (1 + x/28).

Time spent logged in will also be useful to include as a component.

Vlad2Vlad

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 1534

www.ixcoin.net

Quote from: dree12 on August 21, 2014, 04:52:30 PM

This current activity system was in place last Christmas. In addition, 1500 is more than enough activity to be a Hero Member. You must have gotten dates mixed up somewhere.

The dates are correct. I don't remember exactly how many posts I had but it was a lot cause many people were commenting on it.

I think the old system also had a time variable - where you had to be logged on for a certain number of hours and unlike now, it took a long time to accrue just 1 single day. So maybe I wasn't hero yet due to the time constraint which took a while to accumulate.

I don't remember exactly but I am certain I was Senior level and was very close to HERO cause I was looking forward to it and I am also certain I lost it all just cause I went on vacation.

And if you look at my post history from the beginning, I was not posting 2 word spam posts, I was simply very active. I posted long hours everyday just to have it taken away without any warning.

I should easily be a legendary member now yet I'm still not even a hero member.

dree12

legendary

Activity: 1246

Merit: 1077

Quote from: Milkcookie on August 21, 2014, 04:49:52 PM

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 21, 2014, 04:34:23 PM

I have had several periods when I received more than 14 points in one single 2 week period. Does anybody know how I did that or how that happened? Clearly the 14 points variable has other options but I have never seen anything discussed about it.

Does anybody know anything about this? Thx.

Regards...

i got 28 in just 4 days Huh

This is a quirk of how the system works. The two week periods are global; that is, they aren't related to your account's age, but rather a fixed epoch. You registered three days before a shift in two-week periods, so the forum believes you to have posted in two 2-week periods, and hence caps your activity at 28. Since you have more than 28 posts, that's why your activity is 28.

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 21, 2014, 04:51:16 PM

Quote from: dree12 on August 21, 2014, 04:46:23 PM

This activity system has always been the activity system, replacing a raw post count system. There has been no rule change since its implementation.

That simply cannot be true.

I went on vacation last Christmas at the Sr. Level with activity of nearly 1,500 and post count of nearly 1,500 and I came back after about 3 weeks with the same post count but my activity dropped massively to a lousy Jr. member level. I was days away from becoming HERO and I had to start over but this time adding activity points become way more difficult.

So clearly, the activity algo was changed in a big way; I know this for a fact cause I had to start over 8 months ago and I'm still not where I was before I made the mistake of taking a little time off.

This current activity system was in place last Christmas. In addition, 1500 is more than enough activity to be a Hero Member. You must have gotten dates mixed up somewhere.

Also, taking a little time off is not really detrimental to your activity, as it can't decrease unless posts are deleted. However, taking time off does increase how long it will take to reach a certain activity level.

Vlad2Vlad

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 1534

www.ixcoin.net

Quote from: Milkcookie on August 21, 2014, 04:49:52 PM

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 21, 2014, 04:34:23 PM

I have had several periods when I received more than 14 points in one single 2 week period. Does anybody know how I did that or how that happened? Clearly the 14 points variable has other options but I have never seen anything discussed about it.

Does anybody know anything about this? Thx.

Regards...

i got 28 in just 4 days Huh

That's a normal one-time event for a newbie.

Vlad2Vlad

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 1534

www.ixcoin.net

Quote from: dree12 on August 21, 2014, 04:46:23 PM

This activity system has always been the activity system, replacing a raw post count system. There has been no rule change since its implementation.

That simply cannot be true.

I went on vacation last Christmas at the Sr. Level with activity of nearly 1,500 and post count of nearly 1,500 and I came back after about 3 weeks with the same post count but my activity dropped massively to a lousy Jr. member level. I was days away from becoming HERO and I had to start over but this time adding activity points become way more difficult.

So clearly, the activity algo was changed in a big way; I know this for a fact cause I had to start over 8 months ago and I'm still not where I was before I made the mistake of taking a little time off.

Milkcookie

newbie

Activity: 28

Merit: 0

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 21, 2014, 04:34:23 PM

I have had several periods when I received more than 14 points in one single 2 week period. Does anybody know how I did that or how that happened? Clearly the 14 points variable has other options but I have never seen anything discussed about it.

Does anybody know anything about this? Thx.

Regards...

i got 28 in just 4 days Huh

dree12

legendary

Activity: 1246

Merit: 1077

Quote from: Vlad2Vlad on August 21, 2014, 04:44:54 PM

Quote from: madmax6688 on August 21, 2014, 04:35:15 PM

I find it annoying how you can be like a couple activity off of a rank, such as 56 activity, and you are just 4 off of member.

its stupid.

I agree. After this next period I'm gonna be 4 points off hero. I wish I could gain those 4 points this period.

I'm guessing this is happening because we had our accounts going before the new rule took place late last year.

I really wish there was a legit way for people to gain some extra points. Something challenging so account farms wouldn't be able to do it. Those of us who put in the extra effort every single day should be rewarded somehow more than those who farm accounts and add little to no value to this forum.

Cause right now we are rewarded activity points equally which is in no way fair to some of the more active, legit members.

This activity system has always been the activity system, replacing a raw post count system. There has been no rule change since its implementation, which was definitely not "late last year", but rather in June.

Vlad2Vlad

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 1534

www.ixcoin.net

Quote from: madmax6688 on August 21, 2014, 04:35:15 PM

I find it annoying how you can be like a couple activity off of a rank, such as 56 activity, and you are just 4 off of member.

its stupid.

I agree. After this next period I'm gonna be 4 points off hero. I wish I could gain those 4 points this period.

I'm guessing this is happening because we had our accounts going before the new rule took place late last year.

I really wish there was a legit way for people to gain some extra points. Something challenging so account farms wouldn't be able to do it. Those of us who put in the extra effort every single day should be rewarded somehow more than those who farm accounts and add little to no value to this forum.

Cause right now we are rewarded activity points equally which is in no way fair to some of the more active, legit members.

madmax6688

full member

Activity: 215

Merit: 100

I find it annoying how you can be like a couple activity off of a rank, such as 56 activity, and you are just 4 off of member.

its stupid.

Vlad2Vlad

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 1534

www.ixcoin.net

I have had several periods when I received more than 14 points in one single 2 week period. Does anybody know how I did that or how that happened? Clearly the 14 points variable has other options but I have never seen anything discussed about it.

Does anybody know anything about this? Thx.

Regards...

saif92

sr. member

Activity: 392

Merit: 250

Quote from: micax1 on August 21, 2014, 02:39:49 PM

time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
- how I now what it is now?

What you want to know what is now explain this hope I can give you some information about this

micax1

hero member

Activity: 708

Merit: 502

time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
- how I now what it is now?

Salmon1989

hero member

Activity: 603

Merit: 500

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on August 20, 2014, 01:44:21 PM

@theymos : You didn't add Legendary Member in OP. Huh

Try to add It unless you are avoiding it(maybe because of some reasons).

Not a big problem, as mod "malevolent" has updated the sticky thread "Forum ranks/positions/badges" https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/forum-rankspositionsbadges-what-do-those-shiny-coins-under-my-name-mean-178608 already. So, users can check the info easily there.

Muhammed Zakir

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

@theymos : You didn't add Legendary Member in OP. Huh

Try to add It unless you are avoiding it(maybe because of some reasons).

Salmon1989

hero member

Activity: 603

Merit: 500

Quote from: sammy007 on August 20, 2014, 11:16:59 AM

Quote from: Gervais on August 20, 2014, 10:34:48 AM

Quote from: sammy007 on August 20, 2014, 10:21:50 AM

My stats didn't update. How it happened?!

If its true that your activity didnt update its probably because you posted before the new period started so youll now just have to wait an hour for it to update since youve just posted.

Ok, activity now updated, but I am still full member. Strange...

Update: well, =) seems this post was necessary.

Yes. You activity isn't going to go up automatically when a new period comes.
You need to make a post, hence increase the "time" value by 1, and wait for at most an hour for the activity to be updated.

sammy007

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1003

Quote from: Gervais on August 20, 2014, 10:34:48 AM

Quote from: sammy007 on August 20, 2014, 10:21:50 AM

My stats didn't update. How it happened?!

If its true that your activity didnt update its probably because you posted before the new period started so youll now just have to wait an hour for it to update since youve just posted.

Ok, activity now updated, but I am still full member. Strange...

Update: well, =) seems this post was necessary.

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