Topic: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting - page 44. (Read 7496 times)

Those who borrow money to gamble basically never succeed in earning enough money to repay the loans they've taken, so it's never a good decision to borrow money for gambling, once you started borrowing money for gambling, you will enter an endless loop that never stops because you lose the first loan then you take another one bigger than the previous one so that you can repay the previous one and also have some money to gamble again.

When you lose the second time, you take another one which is even bigger than the second one only to repay the second loan and have some money to gamble with the hope that you might make enough money to repay the outstanding loan and get rid of all this but it basically never ends because you keep losing.

I mean, because someone is a streamer, it does not automatically means they have much money, there are different leagueas or ranks for streamers, and most of the are small. The case I was talking about though he was not a huge internet star, but big enough to have a stable source of income.

In the end, I don't recall what happened to him, there were people who made videos on his case when it was a hot topic, how he asked for loans to his fans and followers through PM. Hopefully he is doing better now.

It is difficult to resuscitate people who are too deep in gambling because apart from not stopping it themselves, no one will succeed in making them aware, even though there have been many examples of addicts who have lost their assets and their families because of gambling, even all of us who are gamblers always remind them every time the thread aboutgambling also includes a betting board for them to quickly avoid and be aware of that.

A smart person will stop before everything is gone quickly, not many people can do that, realize everything before it's too late, that's why you need self-awareness and pondering before taking a step because gambling has a high risk that must be understood, that's why we need to control yourself before it's too late.

Remember, there will always be someone in this world who will use your vulnerabilities against you only so that they can benefit themselves, and this thing is very common in businesses where one business does every sort of marketing possible only to take away the customers of their rivals, either by putting false advertisements or trying to give much better services than their rivals so that people choose them and not their rivals at all if they need to in the future.

When it comes to gambling and scammers, they will definitely try and find those users who have a vulnerability or are looking for something that they are not being able to find, and they offer them what they are looking for only to lure them in so that they can scam them at the end.

You said this right, so the best thing is do not have a plan in your head using gambling, do not see gambling as a source of income, do not see gambling as a solution to all your difficulties, you will end up burning like a coal.

Many people are not even aware of the danger ahead, if they sit and think this through they will understand how thinner their chances of winning a gamble is, a big company is build up to make money from people's losses, what more do you want to hear to understand that winning is far fetch in the gambling world?

The sooner you realize this the faster you will adjust yourself in a manner that wont put your future at risk, some people have lost their lives because of gambling and some families that fallen apart because of gambling, can we really blame the casinos? Of cos not, the blame is on the mismanagement of gamblers that don't know that gambling is not something go build a foundation on.

Comment on first part of your post:

Because by nature people dont like to lose, dont like to be the last and are greedy. No matter how self confident and smart person is, no matter how he is ready to resist temptation to deposit more when he had lost, a person is always thinking to at least make things as they used to be (if not having lost money, but at least closing balance to zero) or to improve them. Gambling business is built on emotions, and games are the instruments to manage them.

Second part of your post:

I would not believe streamers, that advertise one gambling site and say that they now gonna borrow money to play back. I think they have some kind of agreement with casino and earn through attracting new players (referral system). All that they have lost, casino will return to them, or they might be playing with casinos give money. I dont believe they play with their own money.

It will not be easy for an addict to get out of gambling, especially if he is a heavy addict who has been an addict for a long time. It would take him a long time to get out of gambling and it would also take a lot of willpower to recover. Everything will not go well if the gambling addict does not immediately realize his gambling addiction and seek help from the people around him. But unfortunately, not all gambling addicts realize this because many still say they are fine and have no problem with it. Maybe it takes the approach of the people around him to be able to talk with him so that they know what he is doing so that people know what to do if he is really a gambling addict.

Firstly I will add borrowing money from others to gamble. We should avoid this no matter what. When you win frequently, you may get greedy and think about using more money to gamble. But you don't have more. What do you do? You borrow more money in order to gamble. This is a serious issue. As gambling is totally based on luck, we can never be sure that every gamble will give us 100% profit. One wrong move or bad luck could cause you to lose all. So in this situation, borrowing money is never an option.

Secondly, I would like to add keeping records. Keeping a record of everything that includes, wins, losses, asset usage, time spent everything. This will help us better analyze the situation. We can use that data to either improve ourselves or control our gambling based on what is needed (more or less).

It is not good to never seek to recover losses, when there are very large losses, it is best to forget about it, delete it, and count it new, because otherwise our mind will play us a very difficult role as recovering whatever we lost , it is not good, It is greed , greed as you want to call it, but from my own experience that is not good because it can take it to an Ugly end where things can end badly , normally what you have to do is play and try to play intelligently, not do You bet very big because if you lose that's where the fun comes from, and try to see the game Only as fun and not as a way to get Easy Money.

He is really going too far if he reasoned he'd use the funds for good yet he gambled the money he asked. That streamer is already addicted to gambling, its a manifestation of it, it also happened to several gamblers who are in such situation. Its no different to telling a lie and breaking the trust of his friends an d family.

This streamer must have been chasing his loss also like any other gambler who have been playing the risk.  AFAIK being a streamer is already a paid job. Its alarming that he still are reaping money from someone else.

Things can be more brutal for us if we keep thinking about our loses and could trigger the greed spirit in us to be trying some risky kind of beyyin6wo that we can earn more from the market. Gambling is not supposed to be a all win affairs.

We need to position our mind in a way that even though we do not win a particular bet, we are not going to be discouraged and we are going to keep gambling without trying too hard to earn more what the pattern we are using it strategies we do use to gamble. Gambling is supposed to be slow and steady nit rushing to earn big money because of other people's results we do see on the internet making us look like we are never trying enough to gambler and earn too.

We need to concentrate on what we know that it's going to help us and start improving ourselves in it rather than comparing other gamblers and pro gamblers results with ours whem it is clear that the way we'll gamble is quite different from each others and the amount that is involved is also absolutely different. We need to mind the way we relate to other people's results so that it will not bring out the greed in us making us look like a weak gambler.

Why don't people understand that if they chase a loss, that may lead to more loss? If they have faced a loss recently, they may face the loss again. If they think that after the loss, the win is a must, then they are having the wrong approach.

I don't follow the streamers but if the streamers tell that he borrows money to gamble, he is in fact putting a bad image to his followers and some of them may do the same. Borrowing money to gamble is the worst thing you can ever do.

I agree, I would also add that anyone is even more in danger is takes things even further and tries to chase losses using money which does not belong to them, under the promise of wining big and paying it all back, you know, the typical dream of the jackpot.

It is something that happened to a Twitch streamer not long ago, he decided to ask money around to his family and friends, little they knew that money was being gambled away, truly a sad history. I do not wish something like that to happen to anyone, to be honest...

From what I have seen, the regulations regarding gambling are very strict, so much so that it is very difficult for a casino to obtain a license in countries of the European Union, in the United States, in Asia and Africa and even in most of the American continent (I mean south america), just see that online casinos all have the license issued by the same country to be more accessible. but the license is only to comply with the laws, it does not mean that a casino will be trusted just because it has a license. now we need to see that when people are 18 years old, they are already considered adults, which means they know what they are doing with their lives

when governments create laws they are giving bases to guide people, but they cannot keep forcing people to live in a certain way or not, it is up to people to decide the path of life they want. for example if a person gambles a lot using their money and is not breaking the laws then the government will not punish that person, and when that person becomes addicted to gambling then it is not the government's problem, it's the person's problem. many times in families, parents have drawn attention to their children, but because they think they are already 18 years old, they do not listen, because in their minds they are already adults and when they become addicted, the parents are left to take care of them. by that I mean that the fault will always be with each person and not with casinos or governments when that person becomes addicted to gambling

This was only true if you are going to do it regularly and you have a high chance of becoming an addict in gambling. Many of us are working in a job and we do use our bi-weekly and monthly salary to play gambling but not all of it because we are still on our right mind and we know that there are other important things to pay and to use our salary than in gambling.

It's okay if we can treat gambling as a habit and I think not all habit can be focused at but you can still play them rarely. It is only bad if a habit or good habit will turn into bad and this is where you are now over doing it and you are now feeling the disadvantages instead of the advantages.

This could really be hard for someone who is already an addict. But for a Newbie who is just starting to gamble it might be a great help to follow such process. One thing is to know all this steps, keeping aside a particular amount which one wishes to gamble with, knowing when to stop and all of that. The primarily player here to me is "Decision making" even when all of this is being outlined or the gambler is being repeatedly being reminded, if they are not strong decision makers they will always fine it difficult to follow those rules.

Providing they have money at there reach and have access to either an online casino or a physical gambling shop, they will always be tempted to try and tempting game which they might think it's the final one and they will have to give it a try until they will spend more than they have expected. Decision making plays a vital role in controlling how much one spend in gambling.

You highlight the 'prospects of a large payout', but overlook the crushing reality of the house always winning. You see, gambling institutions are designed to profit, not to hand out large payouts. The mathematical advantage is always on the house's side, and long-term, the gambler is set to lose. It's not a fair fight! And about this point of 'sympathizing with those who struggle with the disease' - why not take a step further and advocate for stronger gambling regulations? If we can regulate alcohol and tobacco because of their addictive potential, why not gambling? Also, your argument somewhat diminishes personal responsibility. Sure, some are more susceptible, but the decision to partake is always a personal one. We can't simply pass it off as a lack of power  

The drinks might be good for your social well-being but this will make you chemically imbalanced and results in poor judgment and bad decision making...it might also lead to you losing all your money after taking time to build your bankroll as you become fearless  

Agreed!
They say failing to plan, us planning to fail and this is the path that awaits if you can't plan!

Many people ignore this...
Rest is very important to allow the mind to reset and one way of doing this is staying away from your usual gambling routines.

Drinks and gambling just never go together,  especially  that most decisions require a sober mind...adding this to the mix is giving up your control and guaranteeing yourself to lose whatever money is left.

These days people don't share problems unfortunately as this is seen as ones weakness or bad behavior.

Things like winners know when to walk away should be told more....you can not place a 50 dollar bet win $2000 and keep playing ...it's a no for me. You win big today, you call it a day and play some other day !

You're right in what you said, and it's good that you caught yourself that didn't lead to addiction because if it happens, for sure you'll also have a hard time getting out of the comfort zone of being an addict in a casino.

It's easy to say what you said, especially if you're not actually becoming an addict, in the state of addiction that you yourself are the addict, it's definitely not going to be easy to do in reality.

Indeed no kind of addiction is impossible to cure unless the person has not really vehemently taking the decision to cure it. When the will is there, there will always be a way out no matter the level of addiction. There are so many testimonies of diehard gambler who later quit gambling and if we go through their testimonials we'll find out that there was a strong Will to stop before external help from families and colleagues started yielding positive results. Our resolve to end anything matters a lot before any other thing can follow.