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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on November 04, 2023, 02:44:55 PM

Elon Musk is absolutely right artificial intelligence would put many out of work and using an example That I am currently witnessing in my country, formerly photographers use to make it big especially during celebrations like weddings and birthdays for example but now people are moving towards using artificial intelligence generated pictures this puts the photographers out of business, this is just an example of how artificial intelligence is taking over people's job with time it would be worse .

There's an assurance of free to work when every aspect of the economy are fast developing means of getting their works done easier and faster through the use of artificial intelligence and most organizations are today keeping to this bee developments because they want a better offer and a new approach to how they get things done, this may render people off their work duties when the AI technology is performing most of human roles, but yet, there will still be more open opportunities for others in this same field while some are loosing their job.

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

I think several issues like this has been treated here in this forum. AI to replace manpower can not be fully Achieved. Humans are the creator of AI which mean dey must sublet to the command of human. AI has been produces to serve human, and not the other way round.the fact still remains that AI can not replace man in time of work. doctors, teacher, fashion designer and other sensitive works will be handle by man. So the fact remains that they will replace man in some areas and not all.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on November 04, 2023, 02:44:55 PM

Elon Musk is absolutely right artificial intelligence would put many out of work and using an example That I am currently witnessing in my country, formerly photographers use to make it big especially during celebrations like weddings and birthdays for example but now people are moving towards using artificial intelligence generated pictures this puts the photographers out of business, this is just an example of how artificial intelligence is taking over people's job with time it would be worse .

That is the disadvantage of AI it will replace people and many will be jobless how do they survive after they dont have jobs will the government take responsibility of looking out for them. My country is not experiencing much due to many things they don't take technology serious their attention is somewhere else which is money. But with time a lot of attention will go there and it will have serious impact because even the level of poverty were do people start from when they are sacked. Not only photographers are been affected but a lot of businesses. And countries with larger population what will be their solution, just trying to figure out what the alternative will be.

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Quote from: bayu7adi on November 04, 2023, 03:12:32 PM

Humans will always be unique and possess qualities that even robots and AI lack. I'll continue to embrace and maximize my human nature to stay productive and thrive. We should all start honing our skills to compete with AI. Alternatively, if we can grow even further, we should become humans who utilize the presence of robots and AI, not be replaced by them.

Why do we need to compete with AI? Aren't we the ones who created them and placed them where they are now? I consider AI an extra hand to help me with my work load. They help me to do things fast so that I can use that extra time I saved somewhere productive. We don't need to match up our skills with AI as we will never be able to do that if that AI is well programmed.

Quote from: bayu7adi on November 04, 2023, 03:12:32 PM

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Predictions suggest that by 2030, around 30% of jobs in the US will be replaced by AI. This means they also assume that AI won't take over all human jobs, as humans will still be needed as employees or in specific fields.

Humans will be the ones to manage and give commands to those AIs. There will be new types of job positions in the industry. You don't know how things will evolve but just think have you ever thought that a digital form of money will appear in the industry and shake the whole world with its presence before the release of the bitcoin whitepaper? Evolution is beautiful and we should embrace it.

Quote from: bayu7adi on November 04, 2023, 03:12:32 PM

At the very least, even if our positions are threatened by AI, don't panic about what's to come. We are human and have qualities that AI can't replicate. It's better if we implement a principle of collaboration between humans and AI to work together, not to replace jobs. AI is here to complement, not to substitute, and that might make us feel more at ease and less stressed during this transitional period.

You are talking like AI is a new species that is threatening our existence. Don't forget we are the ones who developed and are going to put those AI to work. They can not do anything that we don't want them to do. They don't have emotional or critical thinking abilities. As you have said "AI is here to complement".

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.
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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

This not the first time this has been discussed. And people have said it before and I am also saying it again and also you said the in the thread clearly that AI or ChatGTP can't take over the activities of human beings. It is not only Elon Musk but others had also predicted that computer will replace human beings from their jobs but we all know that that is not possible because those tools are programmed so they can't think the way human think. Though they can perform even more than human but diversification of thinking is what we talking of and not activities.

Human Beings can perform a task for days while a robot can do it within a day or seconds but what how about the thinking. Who created the robot or the AI? All will still boiled down to humans.

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We haven't had the AI yet but there are already massive layoffs everywhere so there gotta be truth to what they are saying about WEF when everything works according to their plans, workers are replaced by robots in a smart city they'd build.

Elon of all people has been developing an AI, he should know how sophisticated AIs have become. The robots at MIT can even be deployed in a war in which they can shoot weapons and decide when to shoot or not.

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Humans will always be unique and possess qualities that even robots and AI lack. I'll continue to embrace and maximize my human nature to stay productive and thrive. We should all start honing our skills to compete with AI. Alternatively, if we can grow even further, we should become humans who utilize the presence of robots and AI, not be replaced by them.

https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/risks-of-artificial-intelligence
Predictions suggest that by 2030, around 30% of jobs in the US will be replaced by AI. This means they also assume that AI won't take over all human jobs, as humans will still be needed as employees or in specific fields.

At the very least, even if our positions are threatened by AI, don't panic about what's to come. We are human and have qualities that AI can't replicate. It's better if we implement a principle of collaboration between humans and AI to work together, not to replace jobs. AI is here to complement, not to substitute, and that might make us feel more at ease and less stressed during this transitional period.

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People have the same attitude towards cheaper labor, immigration or just non union work. Labor cost is an expense to every business like anything else, raise the fuel cost too much and a business can fail or be restricted in its ability to proceed and develop. Same thing with labor, its not quite the negative that might be assumed as more freely available labor market via AI efficiencies and capabilities coming online will actually enable a greater range of business to proceed.
How many people here believe AI can do everything a human can do with perfect ability to replace that person. Even years from now people will be far better at things computers have no comprehension of, we're discussing primarily and firstly the most repetitive boring jobs and of course do repetitive simple tasks far more easily then humans. It is a positive to redirect humans towards better uses, premium photography for example will always be a thing just like record players replaced some street bands a hundred or so years ago we now have both still.

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Elon Musk is absolutely right artificial intelligence would put many out of work and using an example That I am currently witnessing in my country, formerly photographers use to make it big especially during celebrations like weddings and birthdays for example but now people are moving towards using artificial intelligence generated pictures this puts the photographers out of business, this is just an example of how artificial intelligence is taking over people's job with time it would be worse .

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

(...)the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed.(...)
These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

- I agree with Elon Musk's point of view that if there is no management, it will become a threat, and not only AI, but almost every tool that supports human life needs to be managed. Of course, how to manage is a very complex issue that requires many different studies to apply effectively.

- However, like many discussions on various AI topics, I think fear is inevitable when people limit their own abilities in the face of changes in science and technology. Instead, adaptation and learning in these new fields need to be more widespread. Previously, the ethical issue I heard also presented a view that not only on AI but it needs to be enhanced for humans. I also don't have much experience in using, controlling, or programming to develop AI, but I admit that the huge potential value of the ability to solve problems in life is very impressive. There are things that we know have changed in the past, like the emergence of the Internet has changed and connected people, and with it there are always dangerous things that appear. So you should put your worries aside and remember the need to adapt to every situation, and I hope that our generation will witness an era of science and technology that will bring more achievements.

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Quote from: Renampun on November 03, 2023, 01:51:01 PM

I can't imagine what will happen to our children and grandchildren when humanoid robots become perfect and live side by side with humans, it will definitely be an extraordinary and tense experience, however I agree with you that the thing that Elon Musk is afraid of is probably will happen in the next few decades and until now there are many big companies competing to develop their own robots, including Elon Musk himself, what I'm quite surprised about is Elon Musk insinuating about robots and AI which he is actually also developing lol.
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This is where capitalism comes into play. When the first machinery for automation and so forth started, with Henry Ford making it perfect with assembly line, people assumed we would get a lot more free time, and that did not happen, capitalists made more money while we starved. If AI and Humanoid robots happen one day, it all depends on how capitalists approach it. Look at Tesla that Elon owns now, has factories with minimum working people, does that make Tesla more affordable, or life cheaper for us? Of course not, we are just unemployed and doing horrible. When the world reach that level, if we do not have universal basic income for everyone, then we will just be fired and unemployed and starving while rich just use robots to get richer.

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

With the presence of AI, of course this can provide certain benefits and can help and make it easier for us to do our work. However, AI not only brings benefits but also comes with threats. And one of the threats from the presence of AI is the potential replacement or loss of human jobs, especially in the manufacturing, banking and service sectors. So that people who work in this sector are threatened with layoffs which results in the number of unemployed continuing to increase.

And in responding to this problem, however, we cannot go against the development of the times "and will only die silly if we have to collide with such a big wave." But we also can't just sit around without doing anything. Before we completely lose the job we are enjoying now, prepare yourself to face all the possibilities that will happen in our lives, one of which is by continuing to increase our creativity and abilities so that we can have jobs that cannot be replaced by AI. And several observers have indicated that there are several types of jobs that cannot be replaced by AI, including; Artists, politicians, health workers, engineers, athletes and farmers. So before AI completely replaces our jobs, make sure that we have mastered one of the jobs that cannot be replaced by AI so that we always have the income to survive in an era full of challenges and threats.

Tons of people would really be jobless since AI would really be taking over and this is something that we dont really like to hear but we know that advancement is really that inevitable on which means that in case if this one happens then there's no other choice but to find for another job on which we do see that we could really be able to fit out. This is why if you are currently on a certain field of work on which you do see
that it does have potential to be replaced with some AI integration then it would be wise that you should really be that already prepared for possible things to happen in the future.
This is why it would really be that recommended that you do have your own business or investment so that on the time that you are been fired off or laid off then you arent that scared
since you know that you could really make yourself that able to survive even if it would happens.

I personally for now have begun to diligently save a portion of my income every week. And besides that, I have also made small investments, one of which I invested in crypto. Even though the value of savings and investments that I do is not large, I always try to remain consistent in doing this so that the value of my savings and investments continues to grow every week, month and every year. And I do this so that at least when I get laid off, I still have some money to build a new business and as a provision for life in the next few years.

Apart from the threat of AI trying to replace some human jobs, but we will also never know what threats will face our lives next, so prepare everything as well and as much as possible so that we can always find solutions to every problem that comes.

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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

Computers took over the job of typewriters. We've heard that AI will take over the jobs of humans but that is not the problem. The problem is, what are humans doing about it particularly those who are afraid. Are they up skilling to get themselves ready? Or are they whining. There is a certainty that the jobs that exist today will not exist in the next 50 years whether there is AI or not the only people who would benefit from job change are those who upgrade their skill sets or learn a new different skills to fit into their reality. I don't care what Elon says, you all need to re-read the writing on the wall.

The world is changing faster than our age especially the economy. There is a wide range of jobs we have in our economy that no one imagined 50 years ago. If your grandpa ever thinks of it, there will be jobs for data analysts, marketing experts, web security expert etc! There are so many new job positions that exist in the market right now that will be occupied by the AI but that doesn't mean there won't be new job positions for humans that we can not think of today. Those who are whining are afraid of new changes when the solution is to adapt them in our lives.

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

Computers took over the job of typewriters. We've heard that AI will take over the jobs of humans but that is not the problem. The problem is, what are humans doing about it particularly those who are afraid. Are they up skilling to get themselves ready? Or are they whining. There is a certainty that the jobs that exist today will not exist in the next 50 years whether there is AI or not the only people who would benefit from job change are those who upgrade their skill sets or learn a new different skills to fit into their reality. I don't care what Elon says, you all need to re-read the writing on the wall.

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

If AI can work instead of humans and humans will be able to spend their time freely instead of working, why is that bad? But if there is no need of human involvement in work, then that can really become a problem because if humans won't be occupied with job, violence may increase or humans will only prioritize to get max pleasure and that is the moment when population will shrink because its a well known fact that people in developed countries where salaries are high, tend to born less children than those who live in poor countries.
In one of his interview, he also said that he believes there were nations before us, those who build pyramids and they all died. He said that he thinks humans will die too but he hopes we will live as long as possible. His prediction is probably right because right now we are entering the era of artificial intelligence, an era where robots can work instead of humans. It has pros and cons but increased development also leads to other increased risks that I already talked about.

Bad in the sense that they would really be losing up some work and this isnt something that very good into our hearing considering that each one of us does really need up that dayjob.
If there would really be some integrations then it would really be putting up that kind of harm into someones job not unless if they are that jobless on the time but if its a sudden decision that
you've been kicked out or removed into a certain job because of such thing then that would really be definitely a bad news for you and this is something that wont really be that ideal on the first place.
In overall, we do know on whats the pros or advantage of it which it would really be that bringing out that big convenience specially for us who do make out some hard work which this kind of
integration would really be making up things to be more that convenient.

It do really just turns out that effects and those replacing up peoples job would really be having that significant impact on a certain industry which it would really be leaving up that trace
on not needing anymore workforce or something that involves human but just like on what others been saying that there are really indeed still jobs which
AI cant really be able to handle.

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Yes it will put an end to work but the poverty would still be there, what Elon's trying to say is that AI will replace a large number of workers which is going to benefit the companies because with more AI on the workforce, the less people working on the company they're going to pay and with less people to pay then they will get more profits out of the company and when there's more profits then they can further influence the government through lobbying so people won't be able to complain about how they've lost their jobs to AI and that they should be compensated because they're occupationally displaced but with the lobbying it becomes impossible to do so, that's what those little words mean at least to me.

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Sometimes technological developments cannot be stopped, so we have to keep up with developments. In my opinion, AI can be said to be a complement to being more productive. For those involved in digital marketing and digital writing, it is very helpful. because it must also be instilled in our mindset. AI is not a substitute for human creativity, but it still requires human creativity.

AI cannot replace humans, but it can streamline the workforce in companies and if everyone uses AI, small businesses will go bankrupt. In my opinion, not everything is done by AI and there are some parts that AI cannot do. The development of AI is still very far away so there is no need to be too afraid of the development of AI as a substitute for human work.

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Quote from: legendbtc on November 04, 2023, 04:13:33 AM

It must be admitted that AI is developing very quickly and it is likely that it will replace humans in some fields, especially manual, heavy jobs. But to say that it will completely replace humans in all fields is impossible. The world cannot exist with only machines and machines. Furthermore, I don't think the world will fall into a scenario like Marvell's fantasy films, that's quite far from us. It will not be possible for robots to have emotions and take over our planet. Humans are smarter than robots or anything else in this world, it is humans who create AI and robots, not them who create humans.

Yeah, I know that AI bots are not filled with emotions to deal with related things but it's true that they can take care of some sort of things. And it is also true that we made them but it's not like a chemical reaction which causes disease and for its containment we made medicines. We are talking about AI robots which are smarter than humans, but if they are out of control and they know everything because of knowledge and access how we can control them what will we do? Today I watched a video with a caption that horses are the first ones who lose their job because of AI. Below I am giving the link of that video so you can easily watch how AI can replace things.

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

In general, it may not replace humans en masse, but it will limit humans due to the presence of sophisticated AI tools in certain jobs. Elon Musk is crazy about developing something he wants and he is not the typical person who likes to give up when he fails. In fact, he failed several times on the rocket project built by SpaceX, but that didn't stop his intention to develop it and the series of businesses he developed will definitely become pilot projects. So I still think this is a crazy project that he wants to develop successfully and he will not stop at the small failures experienced.

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These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

I saw this long before Elon Musk said it. For example, in the agricultural sector, which used to use traditional methods which were done using human power, but now many have been replaced by machines so that many people have lost their jobs in this sector. There are times when we need to take this matter much more seriously because in technological developments nothing is impossible, it's just that we will wait for the time to come.

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Elon Musk's opinion doesn't mean anything to me, but let's discuss the topic itself. AI is pretty disruptive and exciting, but even Elon Musk doesn't say AI will put an end to jobs. In the video clip, he says people would be able to do jobs for self-satisfaction, but not out of necessity, so it's not a gloomy prediction, really.
If there's no need for people to work, it doesn't mean people will be poor. If robots generate wealth, it can simply be distributed among the people. Also, I honestly don't think that will happen in the near future. New technologies tend to create new kinds of jobs, not just take the previous ones. And there are still lots of jobs AI can't perform nearly as good as human specialists, despite all the progress we've seen. So I don't think we'll see that world where all jobs can be done by robots/AI and humans only work out of desire within our lifetimes.

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