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November 04, 2023, 10:22:22 AM
#50
So lets say a quality robot gets made and we as humans no longer need to work.

We all can't be artists what would we do with our spare time?

Most likely we would fuck up and hurt ourselves and others. For most of us timing in our self-esteem to our job has been the normal thing to do. I would think many people would simply drink or drug themselves into a stupor.

So we then have 1 or 2 billion stoners wandering around that used to work. The job kept them out of trouble.
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November 04, 2023, 10:19:25 AM
#49
Not every country is as technologically advanced as the U.S.

good point, even if ai were to replace all humans in the workforce it will take a really long time for less developed countries to have ai operating as effectively as ai in say first world countries ai wouldn’t be cost-friendly so countries or companies would really have to invest a huge amount of their money to have ai working compared to if they just hired employees who could just be as good as ai

i’d say that there is a possibility for ai to replace at least 60% of humans in the workforce although that’s still far in the future ai still can’t generate art with precise details or create images that seem natural

ai can not read social cues or empathize like humans do so for sure there will still be plenty of jobs, especially those that require human interaction, left for well… humans.
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November 04, 2023, 09:43:59 AM
#48
I am not a fan of Elon Musk but obviously, a lot of us can say the same. AI will not only grow in the future but it also develop into something big which will become a necessity just like the internet. AI will continue to replace human workers but not the entirety of course but it could take most of the jobs in the future.

I am not worried for myself. But people should seriously start being more responsible in starting a family. Children in the future will have a harder time getting jobs without having college degrees. People in the future should stop relying on the hope of getting a job outside their country because most of these rich countries are the ones to start using AI.

In as much as I think Artificial intelligence is growing rapidly over the internet, I still think it will remain within the reach of internet. AI only has the knowledge of what is been programmed into his system, AI can't do without human as well. What I think AI is going to do for human is to help reduce efforts and time spent in doing or carrying out works that we do.

If a doctor spent 13 hours a day for research, AI will help him in doing research to reduce that time to 6 - 7 hours of time to do his research, but as I said AI cannot exist on their own, they need the help of intelligent men to built this, without them understanding the nature of human, it cannot be established or program into this machine that can help humans.

However, I'm concerned about how lazy people will become if they depend on this AI of a thing. People now use AI to write articles, do research and also assignment and this is going to a challenge because it will make student become too lazy to do things on their own. Imagine having a graduate who use AI to write an article throughout his entire time in school can't write it by himself after graduation. Who is going to impact real knowledge to the younger generations. Real Education will die with the revolution of AI.
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November 04, 2023, 09:26:59 AM
#47
During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
If AI can work instead of humans and humans will be able to spend their time freely instead of working, why is that bad? But if there is no need of human involvement in work, then that can really become a problem because if humans won't be occupied with job, violence may increase or humans will only prioritize to get max pleasure and that is the moment when population will shrink because its a well known fact that people in developed countries where salaries are high, tend to born less children than those who live in poor countries.
In one of his interview, he also said that he believes there were nations before us, those who build pyramids and they all died. He said that he thinks humans will die too but he hopes we will live as long as possible. His prediction is probably right because right now we are entering the era of artificial intelligence, an era where robots can work instead of humans. It has pros and cons but increased development also leads to other increased risks that I already talked about.
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November 04, 2023, 09:18:42 AM
#46
These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
AI can clearly be both beneficial and detrimental, I think the gap is significant. AI can really make things easier for humans, especially work, on the other hand, it is very dangerous if used for crime. I once watched Elon in an interview on TV, he even said that AI is more dangerous than nuclear if controlled by bad people. In essence, AI can be programmed to be more evil and it can be programmed to be better. it depends on who makes it, for good or for evil.

The main danger of AI is that rich people no longer need ordinary people, everything can be done with a few factory workers using AI, soldiers need AI and drones, police and others are also the same. I think it must be taken seriously, indeed AI cannot replace humans, but what if it is used by bad people?
That is the current problem so that many parties do not agree with the development of AI because it has the potential for many negative things to happen when it is misused and there are also many parties who will suffer losses, especially workers, although on the other hand, factory entrepreneurs and others can take advantage of it. more effectively than human work.

In fact, AI may replace humans in certain places, but currently there are still many pros and cons, so AI development is not very fast because there are still people who reject it.
Personally, I don't agree that AI will replace human jobs.
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November 04, 2023, 08:58:04 AM
#45
These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
AI can clearly be both beneficial and detrimental, I think the gap is significant. AI can really make things easier for humans, especially work, on the other hand, it is very dangerous if used for crime. I once watched Elon in an interview on TV, he even said that AI is more dangerous than nuclear if controlled by bad people. In essence, AI can be programmed to be more evil and it can be programmed to be better. it depends on who makes it, for good or for evil.

The main danger of AI is that rich people no longer need ordinary people, everything can be done with a few factory workers using AI, soldiers need AI and drones, police and others are also the same. I think it must be taken seriously, indeed AI cannot replace humans, but what if it is used by bad people?
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November 04, 2023, 07:35:08 AM
#44
It won’t put an end to all work but a large number of occupations could be done by AI. Obviously physical jobs like neighbourhood garbage disposal teams can’t be done by AI but clerical jobs can be undertaken by computer systems. I think AI is a brilliant innovation that can really help humanity but there is a fine like between helping & hindering. I think we need to be very careful with how far AI can go, how far it is pushed.
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November 04, 2023, 06:53:43 AM
#43
I am not a fan of Elon Musk but obviously, a lot of us can say the same. AI will not only grow in the future but it also develop into something big which will become a necessity just like the internet. AI will continue to replace human workers but not the entirety of course but it could take most of the jobs in the future.

I am not worried for myself. But people should seriously start being more responsible in starting a family. Children in the future will have a harder time getting jobs without having college degrees. People in the future should stop relying on the hope of getting a job outside their country because most of these rich countries are the ones to start using AI.
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November 04, 2023, 05:24:52 AM
#42
If AI/robot can become a doctor, business owner, pilot, driver or engineer, it's true if AI will take over every jobs.

Above jobs I mentioned are need situational decision because the situation and condition are always changing. Maybe AI/robot could do that in the future since technology always improving, but in our generations, I could say we're safe.

The AI/robot need to have a very good sensory and tons of codes to have every decisions in different situation and condition.


But this should only be limited as it's impossible that AI will replace human in the working field. You know, the population increases in a daily basis...., as according to https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/planet-earth/state-of-the-planet/world-population-clock-live

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The World Population is growing by over 200,000 people a day

If AI continues to be the main thing, it could lead to a problem called underemployment. That's not good because it can cause significant issues, such as more crime due to people not having enough work and going hungry. This wouldn't make the world a better place to live.

So, let's not worry too much. AI is going to stay, and it's very helpful. But it would be a problem if the people who make AI end up taking away jobs from humans and causing them to struggle.
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November 04, 2023, 05:15:53 AM
#41

And even in cases where automation does replace certain repetitive (or routine tasks), there are usually new opportunities that arise, requiring human creativity, empathy, and problem-solving skills. For example, empathy is not something you can get from AI.

You have well observed this lacuna in AI technology and that has been identified by the neuroscience even though I have read that they are working on that to at least have a mimic version of human emotion. This I don't believe is perfectly achievable because it will all confirm the fake version of the original.

Well musk might be laying his staff off while replacing them with AI because they could be perfect for his kind of investment but definitely not for all spheres of live.

He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends.

He should tell his son to think like a human being and not a robot then certain he would attract his likes. Human have blood, feelings and emotion, feels empathy and happy at a point but robots lack those.
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November 04, 2023, 04:57:07 AM
#40
If AI/robot can become a doctor, business owner, pilot, driver or engineer, it's true if AI will take over every jobs.

Above jobs I mentioned are need situational decision because the situation and condition are always changing. Maybe AI/robot could do that in the future since technology always improving, but in our generations, I could say we're safe.

The AI/robot need to have a very good sensory and tons of codes to have every decisions in different situation and condition.
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November 04, 2023, 04:48:49 AM
#39

AI is a threat to workers as they are already doing people’s jobs and their perfection is almost 100% compare to human as they do no error and work as programmed.

If people keep using AI, they will find the use of AI very easy and more cheaper than employing human because working with human have some disadvantages which include human error, theft and others.
AI work is good but will make humans to lose their jobs and most people who work for pay do depend on that money to feed their family.

I also think that customers don't only want convenient and fast services. People need human interaction and relationship. I feel good when a bank cashier is concerned about my facial expression and ask what's wrong. Man is a social animal and will always crave for inter-human interaction because machines can never be humans.

did you know that all them ready meal burgers(90second microwave) are 90% cooked and packaged at a factory are not cooked and packaged by humans. McD's just has to emulate the mass production factories, but on a individual scale where they just cook til finished rather than stop at 90%.. self cleaning toilets is a thing too. as are roomba's and other floor cleaning robots

if you think that the mcD's kiosks, roomba's are hand built by humans.. you might want to look at a electronics factory. machines build those kiosks
McDonald's have been one of the first fortune 500 company that adopted artificial intelligence when they acquired the Israeli digital startup Dynamic Yield for $300 million. I read about McDonald's AI revolution that is happening in mainly in the US where you can find a highly automated restaurants. This kind of AI powered became necessary because of the bans on indoor dining due to COVID-19. But these automation systems are more expensive than human employees. So I don't think these machines can totally replace human.
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November 04, 2023, 04:41:12 AM
#38
During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in the future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
Yeah, I agree with him, recently I did a post in my local thread about this do you think that AI is a threat to human beings? Elon Musk said many times that AI is far more dangerous for humans. We cannot neglect its ability and its advancement which are increasing day by day. In today's era, the whole universe is almost filled with robots everyone and every company wants to add robots in the field work which will engulf the jobs of humans if everyone wants to add then what will humans do? They have more knowledge having more techniques than humans but I am afraid of their negative side what if they are out of control, a person saying to me that the tech industry trying to put feelings in AI so that they will like humans and never do the wrong thing and my reply to him is ooh really if they act like human beings they are more dangerous they will kill humans to save their race etc etc

It must be admitted that AI is developing very quickly and it is likely that it will replace humans in some fields, especially manual, heavy jobs. But to say that it will completely replace humans in all fields is impossible. The world cannot exist with only machines and machines. Furthermore, I don't think the world will fall into a scenario like Marvell's fantasy films, that's quite far from us. It will not be possible for robots to have emotions and take over our planet. Humans are smarter than robots or anything else in this world, it is humans who create AI and robots, not them who create humans.
Exactly. Even how fast AI development, AI will never replace humans especially if the work needs manual intervention. AI was created and can function based on the inputted data, other than that, they won't function properly as AI does not have the ability due to the limited data it received. AI was created to complement human ability and intelligence, humans still needed for AI to function.

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November 04, 2023, 04:20:51 AM
#37
We need to accept that technology innovation in one way or another will tremendously benefit the humanity. In the sense of what we usually do can be automated or even completed by an artificial intelligence. The question is how probable it is, and when is the time to achieve that kind milestone. What I mean by probable which any sector of works that strictly needs human intervention.

But in regards of human companionship in the context of his sons having social difficulties, I think this rather depressing. No matter how perfect or brilliant the results of artificial intelligence development, I do not think it will be able to replace an intimate human relationship.

So, instead of focusing too much about what humanity should be doing in the event of the case came true, I think we rather should encourage the development of AI itself, and rather force the humanity to adapt to any upcoming difficulties in the way of humanity should be progresses.
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November 04, 2023, 04:13:33 AM
#36
During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in the future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
Yeah, I agree with him, recently I did a post in my local thread about this do you think that AI is a threat to human beings? Elon Musk said many times that AI is far more dangerous for humans. We cannot neglect its ability and its advancement which are increasing day by day. In today's era, the whole universe is almost filled with robots everyone and every company wants to add robots in the field work which will engulf the jobs of humans if everyone wants to add then what will humans do? They have more knowledge having more techniques than humans but I am afraid of their negative side what if they are out of control, a person saying to me that the tech industry trying to put feelings in AI so that they will like humans and never do the wrong thing and my reply to him is ooh really if they act like human beings they are more dangerous they will kill humans to save their race etc etc

It must be admitted that AI is developing very quickly and it is likely that it will replace humans in some fields, especially manual, heavy jobs. But to say that it will completely replace humans in all fields is impossible. The world cannot exist with only machines and machines. Furthermore, I don't think the world will fall into a scenario like Marvell's fantasy films, that's quite far from us. It will not be possible for robots to have emotions and take over our planet. Humans are smarter than robots or anything else in this world, it is humans who create AI and robots, not them who create humans.
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November 03, 2023, 10:15:04 PM
#35
During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in the future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?
Yeah, I agree with him, recently I did a post in my local thread about this do you think that AI is a threat to human beings? Elon Musk said many times that AI is far more dangerous for humans. We cannot neglect its ability and its advancement which are increasing day by day. In today's era, the whole universe is almost filled with robots everyone and every company wants to add robots in the field work which will engulf the jobs of humans if everyone wants to add then what will humans do? They have more knowledge having more techniques than humans but I am afraid of their negative side what if they are out of control, a person saying to me that the tech industry trying to put feelings in AI so that they will like humans and never do the wrong thing and my reply to him is ooh really if they act like human beings they are more dangerous they will kill humans to save their race etc etc
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November 03, 2023, 10:06:28 PM
#34

companies will struggle still when time comes they only implement robots in the production. humans are more sophisticated than AIs more capable in doing stuff. terrible thing that AI was released in the time when governments are trying to make everyone poor due to inflation and then with AI, people are also going jobless.

humans are resilient though, thses AIs will be no match when people are going to revolt against the machines.
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November 03, 2023, 09:24:00 PM
#33
Well, whether the truth is what he said or not, I practically don't think I will still be on earth when robotics will totally be in control of all human jobs. Ok, let's assume it happens any time sooner. Then it will equally shift humans to a new area of work. Since it is now going to be a robotic ear, everyone will be technology wise; there will be more computer engineers and programmers. If humans are out of work, how will they get paid or how will they make a living?, and where will they earn from? Something must be done during that time; humans will have new roles to play. That's what I believe.
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November 03, 2023, 09:21:16 PM
#32
At times we probably should take Elon seriously; at times we shouldn't. And, at times, we cannot easily tell whether we should take him seriously or not.

Surely, there will be jobs which will be replaced by AI, and it's better that way. It makes our lives easier and more convenient. But it doesn't mean AI will put an end to work. I don't think robots can replace all human labors, all sense of human reason and logic, and so on.

Being somebody who's into space exploration, does Elon Musk believe that AI and robots alone can send the first humans to Mars?
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November 03, 2023, 08:47:59 PM
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During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

As we all know that if a thing which we use has some benefits then we must understand that this thing will also have some drawbacks too. In the same case with AI, as mostly AI make works easier for the individual and almost all this online work are done through the AI, as I use the word Almost not all, so we can have a look at this matter, if a person is doing everything through the AI, then he will be much lazy and nothing he will do by himself, he will also look for AI.

Also, if a person was addicted to use AI, then he must have to work through AI, because addiction is a little bad. And also if do things in limit then it helps us but crossing the limit may be dangerous and it is. Also, if the AI, stops the person who is addicted to the AI, how could he will side himself from these things. I think it should be take note of especially for the young generation who have also a good talent yet.
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