AI will put an end to work, says Elon Musk - page 9.

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Quote from: Huppercase on November 04, 2023, 09:43:59 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 04, 2023, 06:53:43 AM

I am not a fan of Elon Musk but obviously, a lot of us can say the same. AI will not only grow in the future but it also develop into something big which will become a necessity just like the internet. AI will continue to replace human workers but not the entirety of course but it could take most of the jobs in the future.

I am not worried for myself. But people should seriously start being more responsible in starting a family. Children in the future will have a harder time getting jobs without having college degrees. People in the future should stop relying on the hope of getting a job outside their country because most of these rich countries are the ones to start using AI.

In as much as I think Artificial intelligence is growing rapidly over the internet, I still think it will remain within the reach of internet. AI only has the knowledge of what is been programmed into his system, AI can't do without human as well. What I think AI is going to do for human is to help reduce efforts and time spent in doing or carrying out works that we do.

If a doctor spent 13 hours a day for research, AI will help him in doing research to reduce that time to 6 - 7 hours of time to do his research, but as I said AI cannot exist on their own, they need the help of intelligent men to built this, without them understanding the nature of human, it cannot be established or program into this machine that can help humans.

However, I'm concerned about how lazy people will become if they depend on this AI of a thing. People now use AI to write articles, do research and also assignment and this is going to a challenge because it will make student become too lazy to do things on their own. Imagine having a graduate who use AI to write an article throughout his entire time in school can't write it by himself after graduation. Who is going to impact real knowledge to the younger generations. Real Education will die with the revolution of AI.

Nearly everything will be connected to the internet in the future except probably in some very poor countries and remote places. But even without the internet, installed AI can still work on machines, they just have to be updated when needed. Humans are still needed of course but minimal. From hard labor down to office work, AI can mostly do it.

There is nothing wrong with using AI in schools. Real education will be better with AI. The energy and time saved will be used on other stuff. Students will learn more and can have more time to enjoy their lives as well. Students still need to understand their research otherwise they won't pass their oral recitations, and exams and will fail their thesis defense. In short, they won't graduate.

With AI, humans can spend more time exploring and discovering beyond imagination. We need to explore the wide universe. We need to find ways on how to heal the planet from pollution and other problems for our future generations.

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

What do you think?

If there was no work to be done, then Earth would become like Wall-E. Where everyone is obese and needs a wheel-chair to move since robots are doing everything for them.

But the point is, they *can't*, because AI will never become sentient. Sentience involves giving it a mind of its own, but this requires access to infinite computational power (which the human brain seems to have). Since there is no energy source in the world that can provide that sort of thing, it is impossible.

And if AI is not sentient, it still needs programmers to train it.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on November 06, 2023, 11:52:35 PM

Lmao. Musk just an attention whore who does whatever it takes to stay in the limelight which is why I wouldn't take all of his comments seriously frankly speaking. The man is a bizarre genius.

He himself knows just like everyone else that AI will only replace some specific jobs, but not all. It's hilarious watching some people get scared of such silly comments.

Would you like to tell what are those specific jobs to the community for better understanding? We all know that AI was made for the benefit of human beings but now the times have changed the world has to more advanced and things have more changed than the time when AI was invented. Let's just generally speak in a world where richer people are fewer and poor ones are more and we all know that AI will be used for just say specific jobs and that specific jobs will be run by that poor people if AI is installed in place of them then what will they do how they can fulfill their needs. There is already inflation in the world and we don't know be in the future it will be higher. You will think that I am going aside from the topic but not it's all related to it. If AI will not fully replace humans then it will partially replace and we need to think about our future. If they now partially replaced humans then how you can guarantee that I will not fully replace the humans in future? I am not harshly speaking but just clearing my doubts that are in my mind.

I remember many years ago when we did not have phones, social networks, and the internet were not yet popular. All communication was through letters and it took months to reach us. But since we have smartphones, social media... do you think those postmen have lost their jobs and is that a crime the world created? Are you using technological devices or are you still using handwritten letters to create jobs for postmen? AI is the same, it brings convenience and support to our lives, it is also the result of human needs.
As for the poor, they need to improve their skills and qualifications to avoid being eliminated because this world is a harsh world. They know the world is changing, why don't they change and adapt to it?

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

People are people and robots are robots. It is true that AI is making our workplace easier and in the future due to widespread use of AI, a company that needs 100 people will be able to complete all the tasks with 50-60 people. But AI can never run a company without employees. I think billionaire Elon Musk has hinted at that. Ai will increase the speed of every task and tasks that used to take 1 hour for humans can be done in minutes using Ai. So will definitely create a problem for unskilled people in future.

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 03, 2023, 11:37:48 AM

That's quite biased coming from him, as he would naturally have a positive view of his project since he owns an AI company. While we can't deny that AI can handle tasks that don't require human involvement, it's unlikely to completely replace people in the workforce. However, we need to embrace these changes and the best approach is not to complain, but to enhance our skills so we aren't left behind in terms of opportunities, because AI is capable of handling some of our tasks.

We appreciate that AI is making our work easier. However, we may not be aware that if we rely entirely on AI, it could replace our jobs. So, even though Elon's statement might be exaggerated, we should think about this chance. We need to find ways to avoid negative consequences when AI becomes more prevalent.

Of course it would be biased, it's not a fact yet so it's always going to be biased and he's also the founder of OpenAI so there's also that nail in the coffin. Regarding your opinion that AI won't replace human workers, you probably haven't seen what they do in Japan yet so I have to inform you that there are cafes there that's already way ahead of us in terms of using robots for their cafe workers, they even have a robot bartenders so there's definitely jobs that's going to be replaced by AI but there's hope in that dreadful statement by Elon Musk, AI will definitely be expensive and not a lot of businesses will be able to afford that I'm sure so it's not exactly a complete takeover but AI businesses can just bribe the governments to make sure that businesses that don't use AI for their businesses have a subtle disadvantage.

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The idea of any government currently known to us regulating A.I. development just doesn’t leave me feeling confidant.
Once A.I. advances enough I’d like to see it help us calculate better ways to structure government.
Until then…

“Shall we play a game?”
*I’m old it’s an 80’s movie reference ;-)

Maybe an advanced A.I. is less Ultron /HAL 9000 and more Replicant Bob v.2 in the Bobiverse?

And like the previous "Industrial Revolutions" including the recent "Digital Revolution"; A.I. 'will' change how we work.

Speaking from experience in industries I’ve worked in (Real Estate and Auto Repair) technology helps me be more efficient and knowledgeable.
On the other hand:
a Tesla can diagnose itself and order its own parts.

Isn’t it the dream for humans not to have to toil their lives away?
Those who wish to have physical jobs can become artisans and master their crafts.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on November 06, 2023, 11:52:35 PM

Lmao. Musk just an attention whore who does whatever it takes to stay in the limelight which is why I wouldn't take all of his comments seriously frankly speaking. The man is a bizarre genius.

He himself knows just like everyone else that AI will only replace some specific jobs, but not all. It's hilarious watching some people get scared of such silly comments.

Would you like to tell what are those specific jobs to the community for better understanding? We all know that AI was made for the benefit of human beings but now the times have changed the world has to more advanced and things have more changed than the time when AI was invented. Let's just generally speak in a world where richer people are fewer and poor ones are more and we all know that AI will be used for just say specific jobs and that specific jobs will be run by that poor people if AI is installed in place of them then what will they do how they can fulfill their needs. There is already inflation in the world and we don't know be in the future it will be higher. You will think that I am going aside from the topic but not it's all related to it. If AI will not fully replace humans then it will partially replace and we need to think about our future. If they now partially replaced humans then how you can guarantee that I will not fully replace the humans in future? I am not harshly speaking but just clearing my doubts that are in my mind.

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Lmao. Musk is just an attention whore who does whatever it takes to stay in the limelight which is why I wouldn't take all of his comments seriously frankly speaking. The man is a bizarre genius.

He himself knows just like everyone else that AI will only replace some specific jobs, but not all. It's hilarious watching some people get scared of such silly comments.

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Quote from: GigaBit on November 05, 2023, 09:50:36 AM

With the change of era everything is changing so fast that many believe that a time will come when people will be completely dependent on AI. Today's Artificial Intelligent are so advanced that they can do any job perfectly.

This can be seen in the world of education now. The impact is that our children now answer assignment questions given by their teachers at school, for example at junior high school level, they just open Open AI and the photos of the questions and answers come out.

Actually, the key is to be knowledgeable otherwise you will be left behind as you mean. Only now we want everything to be easy and don't want the hassle of becoming dependent.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 06, 2023, 05:55:22 AM

Well, we know what Elon Musk thinks about the future, he is known to such an impossible imagination. Of course, AI is somewhat placing some key roles in improvements but in the case of replacing humans, that is really impossible. Human Beings will still dominate, not these robots.
I guess, there is too much from the interviews and biased answers from EM, and I don't if there is someone who is able to support and believe him otherwise, he makes himself like a puppet. Maybe the government will also have their response about it or else, the people will blame them either.

I do not think that he is such a big "future thinking" person, he just knows who to hire and the people who he hires does the thinking for him. He is our generation's Steve jobs, and he is smarter because he kept a lot more shares of his companies which made him richer, Steve jobs wasn't this rich ever because he sold his shares.

On the long run, we could say that we are going to end up with a result that could be a little bad for Elon eventually, because people will realize that the products that he makes are subpar eventually, he is the one that did it first so it looks great, but with given enough time, other people will pass him and make better cars and space rockets, they just need more time for that to happen.

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Quote from: EFS on November 04, 2023, 10:49:18 PM

I too think AI will make many jobs obsolete, but it won't replace all jobs. There are many industries that still need people.
I don't agree with the fear and anxiety issue at all. AI and robots doing many jobs will be to the benefit of humans, not to their detriment. Future generations can live a more comfortable life. Technology has always been beneficial to humanity when used for good.

I very much share the same opinion as yours: man-power will still be needed, even if AI is rampant. In some countries, it's not all countries around the world that can purchase millions of robots to fit into all the companies in that country. Some private companies can afford a few of those robots, but they will still need humans to do most jobs because they can afford to pay a monthly salary rather than spend so much money to buy just one bot. The second thing I also thought was that, for those people who are doing some day-to-day and door-to-door business (selling goods), will those robots still be in charge of carrying out all those activities? Normally, some of those traders cannot even afford to buy a robot.

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AI could take care some of our work to make it easier for us, but they couldn't really take over everything.
Who would maintain them and fixed them when there is a bug on their system?
Even if they could fixed it on their own there are jobs that only humans could do properly compared to letting AI do it.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on November 06, 2023, 11:07:05 AM

The government will be forced to take care of us less we die of starvation, and when we die from starvation, no one's going to spend the money that they are trying to make for themselves, meaning these rich people will cease to be rich.

Lol, what? You didn't think that through did you.
Give me money so I can give some of that to you so you can get rich Grin

On a serious note, why are so many people confident that "the elites" will be taking care of the masses if the masses are not only no longer needed, but pose a threat of rebellion etc.

There are just people who misunderstood how AI works and what will be its purpose. Even in my country wherein AI technology is now being tested to sportscasters; some are taking it negatively and some are the opposite. On my end, I know to myself that AI has its limits ‘coz there are functions that only humans have. People are just too scared that they perceive their works as something which could be easily replaced by technologies.

Advancements in technology are suppose to be making our lives easier and not chaotic. Imagine life without computers wherein you will be needing to read the books manually. Now that computers are there, why does books still present?

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Quote from: Casdinyard on November 06, 2023, 11:07:05 AM

Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

No shit Sherlock! And I hate how they paint this as if it's going to be the end of the world for everyone on the planet once AI becomes strong enough to take our jobs. The government will be forced to take care of us less we die of starvation, and when we die from starvation, no one's going to spend the money that they are trying to make for themselves, meaning these rich people will cease to be rich. That's why a universal income law will be made in situations like this, which will grant the people the opportunity to earn money doing what they love, instead of what they could do.

it's going to be a win-win for the people when AI takes over. It's either they kill us all and release us from this mortal coil we call life a la Skynet, or it would aid us in achieving stuff that we've been looking for for centuries.

Unemployment rate would really be that on the roof for sure considering that tons of industries had really been that replaced by AI but doesnt mean that government would really be taking care of us, yes there would really be some patching up for some back ups to those who had lost their jobs whether there are some provided jobs in behind or would really be in some queue if ever they would really be able to get or have some solution.Its true that if people or masses wouldnt really be able to get some jobs after than then there would really be a possible rebellion and this is something that they do want to happen. Criticisms would really be there
but in overall it is really just for the good of humankind on which AI benefits could really make things even more simpler and convenient yet everything could really be done on a swift manner.

It is really just that people wouldnt really be able to remove that kind of impression about AI would really be controlling the world later on which those things are really just that happening in movie. lol
Doubt could be there but the probability for it to happen is almost 0%. Man created AI and there's no way that it could really be that superior than us.

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Quote from: Lida93 on November 05, 2023, 10:02:12 AM

OP you know it's funny saying about his prediction being frightening, of course that was what it was aimed for, to frighten us trying to trick our mind to think that these AI robots are equivalent or super above human intellects and with their existence there should be no need for human services in the few jobs that are available but they're forgotten that it's same humans that invented/created these AI machines.

Of course AI is smarter than humans because humans have control over AI. Maybe what we need to be afraid of is the development of AI robots. In my opinion, AI has been created to be able to process all kinds of things. If it is misused, AI could become a world threat, for example in the creation of deadly virus variant molecules. AI can be programmed to create very deadly variants of viral pathogens, imagine if a psychopath controlling AI could have civilization just disappear then this point of view really needs to be thought about.

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I don't expect any businessman to demarket and make his business products and services seem less but one thing I can be sure about AI tools is that they can't entirely take over the jobs of humans there will always be an irreplaceable positions for humans that AI can't independently cover. So it's left for we humans to gear up and upgrade our skills to stay relevant in the competition.

Correct. AI is actually good for working in places that are difficult for humans to reach. I also think that not all work can be done by AI, of course humans still need it.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on November 06, 2023, 11:07:05 AM

The government will be forced to take care of us less we die of starvation, and when we die from starvation, no one's going to spend the money that they are trying to make for themselves, meaning these rich people will cease to be rich.

Lol, what? You didn't think that through did you.
Give me money so I can give some of that to you so you can get rich Grin

On a serious note, why are so many people confident that "the elites" will be taking care of the masses if the masses are not only no longer needed, but pose a threat of rebellion etc.

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Elon must imagination can be dangerous, at this point unemployment is something else I most part of the world, why will elon even think such thing, this might be resist if eventual perfected by him because the available jobs are not even enough for the populace, he busy think about impossible, this AI works with the information and the command given to it by humans, don't we think the coders will not give it the accurate stuff because if they do there own job will also be at stake, this will be impossible for him to achieve, we have see AI performing many function but the visibility of this one is doubtful and will be resisted indirectly by elon musk work force because of the danger it portrays.

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Quote from: Fiatless on November 03, 2023, 10:28:19 AM

During an uncommon interview conducted by UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the tech billionaire Elon Musk predicted that if AI is not regulated, there will be a time when no job will be needed. This means that AI tools would take over the entire work of men making paid jobs become reductant. He even claimed that humanoid robots might be a perfect friend for one of his sons who is having difficulty in having friends. I have always believed that regardless of how sophisticated these AI tools become, they will never replace humans. But hearing this prediction for an individual who has a full understanding of the AI sector is frightening. Elon Musk owns an AI company, xAI, that is competing with big AI firms like OpenAI, Google and Anthropic.

These comments can increase the fear and anxiety workers always had that these super-computers will replace them in future. What are your thoughts regarding the statement by Elon, do you think we should take him seriously?

No shit Sherlock! And I hate how they paint this as if it's going to be the end of the world for everyone on the planet once AI becomes strong enough to take our jobs. The government will be forced to take care of us less we die of starvation, and when we die from starvation, no one's going to spend the money that they are trying to make for themselves, meaning these rich people will cease to be rich. That's why a universal income law will be made in situations like this, which will grant the people the opportunity to earn money doing what they love, instead of what they could do.

it's going to be a win-win for the people when AI takes over. It's either they kill us all and release us from this mortal coil we call life a la Skynet, or it would aid us in achieving stuff that we've been looking for for centuries.

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Quote from: EFS on November 04, 2023, 10:49:18 PM

I too think AI will make many jobs obsolete, but it won't replace all jobs. There are many industries that still need people.
I don't agree with the fear and anxiety issue at all. AI and robots doing many jobs will be to the benefit of humans, not to their detriment. Future generations can live a more comfortable life. Technology has always been beneficial to humanity when used for good.

Exactly, there are more upsides than downsides of AIs developing to be used to do most of the work that humans do right now. Any technology that is invented to enable works easier for humans and we have seen it happening with every single invention humankind has witnessed, be it cars, electronic devices such as mobile phones, airplanes, or anything in general that is invented by humans and is related to technology is very much useful for humans.

The only big downside that I see of this is that many professionals might have to adapt and choose different fields than what they are doing right now if they are doing something that might be easily doable by an AI or an AI-powered robot because they will have to do something for a living once they might have to leave their positions.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 06, 2023, 05:55:22 AM

Well, we know what Elon Musk thinks about the future, he is known to such an impossible imagination. Of course, AI is somewhat placing some key roles in improvements but in the case of replacing humans, that is really impossible. Human Beings will still dominate, not these robots.
I guess, there is too much from the interviews and biased answers from EM, and I don't if there is someone who is able to support and believe him otherwise, he makes himself like a puppet. Maybe the government will also have their response about it or else, the people will blame them either.

The idea that AI will replace humans is a myth and many people are too obsessed with it. After all, AI is just a technology like any other technology created by humans to serve us. Just like decades ago, people have to use buffaloes and cows to help grow crops. But as the world develops and we invent technological devices, it is not causing any loss to farmers but instead technological devices are supporting farmers. The same goes for AI, it will eliminate some outdated jobs but in return it will bring convenience to us at work.

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