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Topic: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now! - page 123. (Read 529056 times)

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Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
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there have been nasty trolls with fud, but there have also been legitimate concerns from customers about changing policys and so on.

You know what's sad though? Alpha has been the greatest FUD generator of all.

They've instilled Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt for the past .... 70 pages / 4 Months

FUD isn't bad when it's founded.. which it is.
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You guys best option is to try and report to Action Fraud:

http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/


Thank you!  You and a few other clever chaps have helped me make my choice to file a report.  I kindly requested a refund and was denied with the cookie cutter reply.  Alpha I humbly request that you reconsider my refund request and my claim will be withdrawn. If not prepare yourselves for what comes next.  

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Action Fraud Report Form
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Further Information

Now you have submitted your report, to add any further information on this specific incident you will need both your Crime Reference Number (CRN) and your Password which are given to you below.

CRN:  NFRC140700715586


+1 good move bro.  Cool
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Not easy to do it at a local police station, me from Austria oO

No, i will check retros posts and links, have to read a lot. As far as i know me, i will file a claim on each site retro provided.  Cool  No, i have to sort out the most reliable site, well, i think all of them are kind of reliable, so then i have to find the most promising.

Yea DSR violation is the reason.

How many days have they from first email where you wanted a refund? Is it 30-days?

I wrote them to fully refund my money.
1 days later they wrote that they wont refund coz im a business customer (which is wrong, im an individual). So, they ended this 30 days  period after 1 day by telling me "we dont refund". Anyway, after this i have given them 14 days to refund my money.
And i am still waiting till the end of these 2 weeks, i am man of my word.

At the next weekend i will start a small claim. Meanwhile i got the tip (and some other tips from someone who already has opened a small claim) not to talk about my strategy here on forums, coz Fiaz is frightened and lurking here.


Didnt even know dat its so easy to found a company. Order at AT, get free business formation.   Cool
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I cant believe that these Kids (Fiaz and the other guy) think they will get away with all this. Hostility and banning people is not going to fix their business.

I wander how many people will pay the remaing 70% after this stunt - 10 people perhaps? It would be quicker just to burn the money.

EDIT - BTW, Paypal have rejected my claim as its over 45 days. Interesting that A-T state Paypal are withholding funds then. I am going to push Paypal a bit more before going to the CC Company. I think I will sour my Paypal account if I get a chargeback as Paypal will have to bite it anyway.
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I, as a paying customer, was banned yet again.  So much for ethics and transparency.  I guess I shouldn't point out they were not transparent nor ethical, when they clearly knew at the point in time when they were collecting the 70% final payment there was 0 chance of a July delivery.
Well, that didn't take long. -M


So much for an unbiased vote too.  If you are not on board with buying into the 30% company stake and are still harping about anything negative like their violation of their original terms then they ban you.  They will probably ban anyone posting anything negative up tot the vote to make sure that the vote goes their way.  Yes people this is now a scam.  They are leaving nothing to change or to the customers.  They are going to get what they want by making the customers take on more risk after they failed the first time.
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one more thing nowadays  if you order/buy a article at a shop/company and paid a deposit and after delivery date you're asking for the product that of course  isn't  at stock at the time of asking  kindly opt to become a stakeholder till they deliver or beyond.

that alpha offer made my day for live!
regards
 
from miner/buyer to shareholder what a joke
regards
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As a paying Customer, I have been banned again for asking pertinent questions:

Now its going to be:

Distance Selling Regulations, Small Claims Court, High Court, High Court Sheriff.
Yeah I saw this post of yours disappear.

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n8091977
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Re: An Opportunity For Miners to Become An Integral Part of Alpha Technology

« Reply #79 on: Today at 03:25:13 PM »

I got banned from the forums 3 days ago for daring to discuss some of the issues below, just 1 post, no warning, just straight ban...........

I am sorry but nothing has changed from last week in my opinion. There is no tangible development update / prototype, there is no way to pay by credit cards as the card issuers are nervous (which means no consumer protection) and there is now a new promise of some shares (perhaps something of something or something of nothing).

If you wish to talk terms, then AT should deliver the original miners 5 /25 with LCD, wifi, rack mountable with PSU installed ASAP (there is still a nice picture on the website of a Viper and we all know it is not going to look anything like that now). As we all know this is not possible, then refunds should be available immediately. If refunds were to be offered this may bring some confidence back to the CUSTOMERS who are nervous about the whole thing - the very fact that AT had the confidence in itself to offer refunds would mean they believed that they can deliver. I am sorry but ignoring UK Distance Selling laws and trying to label Consumers as a Business is the biggest issue for me, changing T&C's after the event.

I hope AT will see sense with this situation, having the courage to stand behind their decisions and offer refunds may have the opposite effect to what they think - as in people may stay with them for that trust.

Either way, good luck to everyone including AT. I sincerely hope it works out and that I am making the wrong decision by wanting out.

I figured it wouldn't take long for the ban hammer to come out
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if all angry customers are willing to join David with the case he's preparing i think we have a better change to succeed.
read his co article at coindesk
http://www.coindesk.com/alpha-technology-blames-paypal-dispute-bitcoin-asic-delivery-delay/
regards
 
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As a paying Customer, I have been banned again for asking pertinent questions:

Now its going to be:

Distance Selling Regulations, Small Claims Court, High Court, High Court Sheriff.
sr. member
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I can't see how anyone can trust Alpha. It's obvious they knew about the problem months ago. If they only found out recently, where all all the finished enclosures, stacks of PCBs and boxes of PSUs? They should be sitting in a manufacturing facility somewhere waiting for the chips, to SHIP IN JULY.

However you slice it Alpha are playing you. They have been caught in lie after lie, but like an abusive husband keep repeating the same mantras, "this is for your own good", "you should be lucky to have me", "no one else would treat you this good", "I don't WANT to punish you but you leave me no choice" oh and the final insult "if you're going to accuse me of something, YOU need to prove it"

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Quote from: wakirksey on Today at 06:57:49 AM
They are only offering us customers shares in the company in a vain attempt to save the company from bankruptcy and unless they are willing to make major changes in their policies and there Terms of Acceptance then this company is doomed.

Fiaz Malik
Administrator
« Reply #49 on: Today at 11:55:08 AM »
Re: An Opportunity For Miners to Become An Integral Part of Alpha Technology

Prove this ridiculous statement and if you can't you've said you've piece leave it at that.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:06:39 PM by Fiaz Malik »

Ok Alpha give us the info and we WILL prove it. Fiaz has said you will not get access to any company information until AFTER you vote on this proposal. What use is that? How can customers be expected to make an informed decision? With the tissue of lies Alpha have offered in the past you are now just supposed to take their word that everything is fine and you are all going to make millions?

And now Fiaz is once again re-writing history, playing with the truth and outright lying.
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Fiaz Malik
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Re: An Opportunity For Miners to Become An Integral Part of Alpha Technology

« Reply #51 on: Today at 12:03:56 PM »

As far as the terms questions go if you want to get technical:

1: Payment methods only referred to the deposit technically. LIE. From Alpha's T&Cs: Deposit payment and final payment can be paid through different payment options, e.g. deposit can be paid with Bitcoins, and end payment with Bank Transfer
2: As we are asking for payment now and ship in September we are asking for payment 8-10 before shipment technically. LIE They first asked for payment 22nd of May, 10 weeks ago TODAY. If they do not ship TODAY they are in breach of their T&Cs

But this is besides the point, we are a company that provides goodwill to our customers this is just a fact. LIE A fact is something you can prove, Alpha have proven nothing apart from the FACT that they are liars
If we were a 'technical' company we would have retired at 90Mh/s and final payment and you all would have been left out to dry: fact. TRUE But you would have gone bankrupt so lets not pretend you were being generous here.
Setting aside the MASSIVE technical challenges of what Alpha are proposing. If they are not willing to stop lying and be ABSOLUTELY TRANSPARENT, I cannot see how any customer can take them seriously. Without highly detailed and possibly sensitive information, the sort of thing any private investor would require as part of standard due diligence, this is just another "TRUST US, EVERYTHING'S A-OKAY" from Alpha. And those have worked out so well in the past Roll Eyes
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LTS Scrypt Asic Preorder :P
You guys best option is to try and report to Action Fraud:

http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/


Thank you!  You and a few other clever chaps have helped me make my choice to file a report.  I kindly requested a refund and was denied with the cookie cutter reply.  Alpha I humbly request that you reconsider my refund request and my claim will be withdrawn. If not prepare yourselves for what comes next. 

Quote
Action Fraud Report Form
Complete
Further Information

Now you have submitted your report, to add any further information on this specific incident you will need both your Crime Reference Number (CRN) and your Password which are given to you below.

CRN:  NFRC140700715586
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I, as a paying customer, was banned yet again.  So much for ethics and transparency.  I guess I shouldn't point out they were not transparent nor ethical, when they clearly knew at the point in time when they were collecting the 70% final payment there was 0 chance of a July delivery.
Well, that didn't take long. -M
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I, as a paying customer, was banned yet again.  So much for ethics and transparency.  I guess I shouldn't point out they were not transparent nor ethical, when they clearly knew at the point in time when they were collecting the 70% final payment there was 0 chance of a July delivery.
newbie
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Yep, they are back at deleting anything critical.  It really pisses me off how they keep screaming at the top of their lungs they are ethical and transparent.  If you have to insist you are ethical... you're just in denial.
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  For some reason, this company interprets any sort of call for critical review as being "mean to them."  Here is the perfect spokesman for the current state of affairs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCpwd0ARx6Q

there have been nasty trolls with fud, but there have also been legitimate concerns from customers about changing policys and so on.
newbie
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  For some reason, this company interprets any sort of call for critical review as being "mean to them."  Here is the perfect spokesman for the current state of affairs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCpwd0ARx6Q
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how can you pay your own discount? and if they go back to 90 mh/s from 250 im gonna be upset
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