Topic: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now! - page 99. (Read 529098 times)

There's no reason it wouldn't work, I've done it numerous times for odd applications. It's easiest if you get multiple of the same model PSU, but regardless the execution is the same. You tie pin 16 (green/power-on) of all of them together, and when it's grounded they'll all fire up simultaneously. Quality PSUs will do just fine.


I speculated this back in May, as I was familiar with the process as well and their story wasn't adding up. Especially since the design company cut ties with them publicly.


I'm probably one of the few people who would say you could cool 2kw in a case of that design, you just need to have the proper cooling plan, which I doubt they have. Keep in mind, their design has changed yet again, and they're claiming magical fairy-land efficiency, saying they'll outdo even the KNC giant. Greater efficiency = less heat. Who knows.. maybe they'll pull off the cooling, but that's if this is even legit.

Having spoken to some people experienced in ASIC design, is that it's at least 8-12 weeks from tapeout to delivery of first silicon, and at least another 2-3 weeks will be needed for PCB assembly, testing, shipping between factories, etc.

This means that when they made the announcement of 27 May, they must have already known that their tapeout had failed, and there would be a delay of months for the design to be modified and to go through the full sign-off verification process.

It's quite brazen really. They even had the cheek to ask for final payment in July stating that shipping was on track for July.

The overall project seems catastrophically badly managed. At this point, they should have mechanical samples of the PCBs for testing in the enclosure (same mechanical shape and size, with the same heatsinks, etc.) It's also been nearly 2 weeks since they had the ballout for the ASICs, which means that they should have a completed miner PCB design, in order to ensure that production delays don't compromise manufacture after arrival of the ASICs. They've been making a big song and dance about completing the power distribution PCB design - so I'd have expected the completion of the miner PCB to be being broadcast from the rooftops.

Heck, even the case design shown looks like a joke - there's no way that you'll get 2 kW of silicon cooled in that. Again, they should really have had some test PCBs with dummy loads on, for testing the thermal situation by now.

You can't argue with crazy, "that is a fact!". 

lol most companies actually ship the damn product.  that's the customer service people expect.

Wow, that's is a really long winded rant. That could have been said in a few sentences.

Paraphrased: We are warning you to stop complaining. If you don't stop your complaints we will use this as an excuse to hurt our customers when we go bankrupt. We have given our souls, really, we made a deal with the devil to make you happy. To prove how happy you are we have deleted everything negative from our forums. See it's a happy place god dammit! Now be thankful for our generosity you ungrateful little bitch.

That seems to be a more concise version of their statement. Either the author of that statement is high on drugs, if he's not, he needs to be.

Now for those who are worried about the argument that these machines can mine crypto-currencies for profit, they can also be used with BOINC to help SETI look for alien life. You can choose to use it for this purpose in your arguments.

Also, those pictures do show a lot of power plugs. You're going to need to daisy chain several PSUs together. Three 850W PSUs should work, you'll need to use multiple "dual power supply adapter" cables. Do a search on Google, or eBay. Assuming Alpha-T doesn't provide said PSUS.

The holes are a bit small to allow for unrestricted airflow through the case, given what I've seen so far I would expect these units to be very noisy. Make sure you have a separate room for it, that's all I'm going to say.

So basically he have been reading this forum and deleted all the mails we have been sending to their support... I'm still banned on their forum.... Getting tired of this bs....

so they announced they won't ban anymore in their forum as a sign of good will, but now they admit that they will delete everything that they don't like.

it's getting worse and worse with every week passing by. unbelievable from an outsiders point of view.

From Alpha-T Forums:

Greetings Miners,

This is our final word to those who are not happy with us/demanding a refund as such any posts on this topic will be deleted (depending on their context). We are sorry but this post is in everyone’s interest and is necessary in order to keep the forum from being flooded with unnecessary complaints: Just as a reminder what has happened since the start: you pre-ordered a product, competitors then arrived on the scene. In order to secure your loyalty, we increased the hashrate to 90Mh/s which is fair enough, we then took final payment at 90 (if we were any other company: chances are we would have as we could have stopped at this point, that is a fact), we then decided to increase to 250Mh/s despite the fact we didn't need to. We delayed and despite the fact our terms give us leeway in this: for the sake and in the interests of our customers we still decided to go yet another step further by giving you shares of our company for the rest of its existence without the need for you to spend an extra penny or work for us hence there is no catch this is technically something for nothing in so far as what we are legally obliged to provide you. All this on top of free shipping for batch 2 and 10% off any future batch of your choice; this is an unprecedented level of customer service. We have been crystal clear from the start with our cancellation policy so why you would order from us if you didn’t agree with it or worse you thought it wasn’t legal is beyond us. Customers who do not pay in full will of course not receive shares in our company, their orders will be cancelled subject to our cancellation policy; this is the final word on this. And while technically the due date has passed we of course haven’t cancelled anybody’s orders but at a certain point enough is enough. If we were any other company we wouldn’t be having this discussion, it is what it is, if we may be so bold we have gone above and beyond the call of duty for you; this is a fact. I am sorry it is your perception that you believe you are entitled to more from us however we have nothing left to give and can do nothing more for you. You paid for a 25Mh/s miner and everything on top is goodwill, this is simply a fact. Thank you for your understanding and we are sorry if this response is blunt. We are just proud of our company taking this action as these choices are never easy and it is always tempting to take an easy way out yet here we are doing our best and you can't ask for more than that. How many other companies would have gone to these lengths to keep your custom and loyalty after the rollercoaster ride that has been batch 1? So in short we will not allow customers who only pay 30% to join the company and their orders will be subject to our cancellation policy, their 30% cannot be applied to any future batches, products or services from us. This is the final word on this as such any posts on this will be deleted and the poster will be directed to this post. We are sorry if this sounds harsh to you but the bottom line is aiming your frustrations at us will change nothing and not help you in any way hence there is no point in it. You have paid for a miner which you will get, nothing has changed regarding this transaction except that we are giving something extra. We would like to say to some people that we are only responding in kind to complaints that are unwarranted so please work with us on this forum constructively in order to help you instead of hostility/nitpicking about things that can’t be helped just for the sake of it we will get somewhere together and you will be better off for it as we've proven we directly make changes based on your input in this forum; sometimes within hours of us seeing a post. This is just a fact that has obviously not gotten across to everybody yet; our goal and sole intention here is to work with you and help you so we humbly ask you to help us do that and not hinder us as you will only be helping yourself; surely this makes more sense. If you have any issues with our stance on this you are welcome to PM this account and someone will get back to you; almost all PM’s are read and responded to. If you want to wait until credit cards are up or more ‘proof’ has been released before you pay see this: https://alpha-t.net/news/final-payment/

Best Regards,

Alpha Technology Team

Very interesting.  So I guess I can feel good about my having paid for my order 100% in bitcoin being a shareholder soon and all (ahem).  I guess we will know something one way or another within a few weeks :/

can you guys copy it here for the banned crowd

This one in particular is F'ing hilarious

And while technically the due date has passed we of course haven’t cancelled anybody’s orders but at a certain point enough is enough.

"Of course" they are not cancelling orders because "technically" is 100% bullshit and they are basically admitting here they are in the wrong. They of course cannot cancel anyone's order because that would be even way more obviously illegal than everything else they are doing.

That is because scam artists are delusional and always blame the victim. This is a stereotypical example.

What is priceless is that they aren't even trying to deny that they are legally obligated to give refunds anymore.  They just keep spewing some shit about going above and beyond, and providing more then they have to...  Like anyone believes they offered an upgrade to 50/250MH out of kindness, hahah...

Yeah, that is a funny one too …

To paraphrase: 'We have your deposit, no you can not have it back. It is in your interest to stop causing problems and work with us because we are not legally required to provide the performance upgrades we announced."

My favorite blast from the past, the famous May 22 'Send Us All Your Money, Everything Is Going Great' subterfuge:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140702153657/https://alpha-t.net/news/


Followed quickly on the heels by the May 27 'Performance Upgrade' tease:


What is the date today ? August 10 … and counting … 7 weeks to go.

From: https://alpha-t.net/about-us/team-2/
Mubasher is the founder of Alpha Technology and is a graduate in Electrical and Electronic Engineering. With his vision, innovative thinking, enthusiasm, and hard work he has led us to this stage and made our project a success.

Mubasher is responsible for liaising with all aspects of engineering on a daily basis

Also from https://alpha-t.net/about-us/team-2/

Eric is responsible for all aspects of Alpha Technology ASIC development and supply chain including management of external design and manufacturing partners.


So, Mubasher talks to Eric every day. Why hasn't he provided a full and transparent disclosure of project status to customers ?


Here is what the Alpha-T updates used to look like in the distant past:

https://web.archive.org/web/20131106092909/http://alpha-t.net/news


Blast from the past: https://web.archive.org/web/20140210074928/https://alpha-t.net/about-us/team-2/

No mention of Eric Gunn.

More blast from the past: https://web.archive.org/web/20140208054509/https://alpha-t.net/

Still no Eric Gunn.

Another blast, this one mentioning that Mohammed Akram held the position of Finance Director for Alpha-T. I'd say that puts him squarely in the line of responsibility as a former director of the company.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140210074928/https://alpha-t.net/about-us/team-2/


An early forum index, with Its About Sharing asking: Why was shipping changed to "as soon as July"? Had  Alpha-T already started backtracking on their promise of delivery by July 15-30. Does this suggest that Alpha-T understood that statements by Fiaz could reasonably be construed as altering the Alpha T&C, which stated Q2/Q3.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140327085256/http://forum.alpha-t.net/index.php?board=2.0

These guys have already missed their promised delivery date. It looks like they are going to miss their next promised delivery date. It wouldn't surprise me if they buy a machine from Zeus, repackage it in their case, and ship one to a sock puppet before  Sept. 30 just so they can claim they met their commitment. It wouldn't surprise me at all. There is a reason this product was named the Viper ...

No offense taken. But I see you joined July 28, roughly 2 weeks ago. You should perhaps have a look at my older posts where I was trying to keep a bit of the order here. I wasn't so much defending AT but trying to keep things going in a more business direction and not so much personal (e.g. Against Fiaz). I was attacked by a few posters but nothing too bad and in hindsight it was understandable as I was giving AT the benefit of the doubt. Suffice to say, at this point in time, after all we have been through, the only thing left is doubt.

I don't mean to discount your words, what I'm rather saying is AT should not have an out at our expense. They should not profit at our expense. Let's just keep that in mind.
If we are going to be running a loss from this venture, I expect the exact same thing of AT.

IAS

Reading through the Alpha-T forums is a laugh a minute. Now that all the people with difficult questions to ask have been banned and all the posts which question the Alpha-T 'clean sweep' propaganda have been deleted, it reads like an Alpha-T sock puppet party.

Even Akram is now hiding his posts behind a general purpose 'Alpha-T administrator' login seemingly to avoid the possibility of any direct attribution of statements or policy to his name.

Semantic analysis suggests the liklihood that the that 'Alpha-T Support Team' is either Akram or Fiaz.

The funniest post I could find today was this:


Re: An Opportunity For Miners to Become An Integral Part of Alpha Technology

Customer aph5 asks:



Alpha Technology Administrator replies:



So there are 7 weeks left until the end of September and Alpha-T doesn't yet know whether their current attempt to build a working chip is going to work out yet. But no worries, you can have 30% of the company …


Interested people would like to know:

a) How much is 30% of all the deposits Alpha-T have taken and are refusing to refund ?
b) Do the new shareholders also get 30% of the company liabilities ?

Very interesting news from Alpha-T in there Forum:

https://forum.alpha-t.net/index.php?topic=952.0

And very amusing.

no offense, but my point  is, keep an open mind and don't let emotions keep you distracted
in other words whatever they did or do at any forum is not relevant, are you capable of getting some or all of your money back.
that's the first question? second;  can you find them?
third; are they willing,  or can they be forced legally to pay back.
that's how i look at this case and try to help with an idea, and if it's not workable so be it.
regards