Topic: Alpha Technology Litecoin (Scrypt) ASIC Miner Order Batch 1 Now! - page 100. (Read 529056 times)

Still willing to communicate? They have deleted all of their posts here, deleted posts on their forum and deleted users accounts as well as IP Banned them for good measure. Seems a bit extreme.
They have ignored ALL questions here since the post deletion. Their forum is basically dead because they delete everything.
I just don't trust AT right now. At this point, I think you lawsuit question has more relevance and I'm excited to hear more on this front.

true , this is his first post and  to the benefit of alpha, but i also see that they are still willing to communicate and make some kind of a deal
good or bad from costumers point of view. point is they are still present some where , so let's try and find them with all means legally available .
@forceflow  i'm glad to hear from you again , because you have experience in lawsuits and your advice is needed here.
regards
 

Yes i'm aware of how my post seems but under no circumstances i said to just let the money go. I was interested more in some opinions regarding what can i do if i accept their offer (they refund 132 pounds ) but also want the rest of my money. Are there any other means to recover the difference  because it seems that if i agree to this i would waive my right to get a full refund on my deposit

Not saying this is your intention, but this is your first post and it seems to benefit AT. They get to keep 50% of our deposits due to their negligence. If they do or don't end up selling these units, they should refund deposits to anyone who requests it. I can't imagine gifting them our money.

Hi guys,

Been following you for some time now.

I have filed 2 complaints with paypal so far - no luck.
Talked to my bank about this - they said that the chance of getting any money back is pretty low as a lot of time has passed.

In the meantime i also wrote some mails to Alpha.First i got also the standard reply etc, but after my last mail in which i explained that they are in breach of contract they said they are willing to refund 50% - 70pounds from my 30% deposit.

Should i take this? It would be only 132.5 pounds from the 405 pounds deposit.

Your delay to act will hurt you. Too many people are going after them now so you will be left holding an empty wallet. Jump on board to at least have a fighting chance.

My decision based on risk analysis is as follows:

1) The probability of getting money back easily is small.
2) The probability of them being a company with just bad customer support is small.
3) The probability of them being thieves and fraudsters is cetrain (let's say extremely likely)

So my only chance to get the money back is to pay in full when the product is finished only to return it within 7 days for full refund. Given the history of this company and the people behind it: this will happen only in their dreams.

Unfortunately I cannot but still give them the benefit of the doubt, and still wait will 1 October 2014 to do the following. I would like to prepare as of now only to action then.

I will get in touch with a local lawyer in Australia and file a claim with the police. This is all what I want to do. The minute their name is with the police, these guys are never going to set foot in Australia. I don't want this kind of people in my country and the loss of the 30% is a price i am willing to pay to protect us from them. All it will cost me is probably around $500-$750, if anyone is a customer and is in Australia and would like to join in to share please PM. After that I'll probably get a large percentage back from the CC company based on insurance claim (defective product within 2 years, defect being there is no product), not based on standard terms.

That is for Defence.

For offense, to be honest I will not appoint a lawyer in the UK from here. I tried that with the debt collector and I had a feeling they would fight more for me but it is what it is. I trust someone in the UK will file against them and will be looking forward to the outcome even a year from now and then will see that to do. Unless there is a real class action suit then i will join in after 1 October 2014.

Xell, are you a lawyer licensed to practice in the UK or EU or are you just pretending to be one on the internet  ?

Carmens bronze statue has value.
Viper units are worthless. No business possible. Its pure hobby.

You are wrong. See example 3 here:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/selling/examples.htm


Informing HMRC is not the same as registering as a company, and is not needed as far as alpha-t go in order for you to be a business. That is your duty, and irrelevant to AT.

Just because they quote "their terms" does not mean they will hold water with a judge. English Law is the ultimate authority along side EU law. If they think they can defraud by saying they are not liable to anything fraudulent then they will have a surprise

I got the impression for some reason that they were of Pakistani origin.

Dunno. At first I thought maybe Alpha-T had deleted the entire thread.

So who moved this thread into the Mining subforum?  It used to be in the main Altcoin section?

The whole section was not even in their original terms and conditions.  What is posted below was the Terms as of March 29th.  They haven't changed this section since then.

Law and liability

The rights set out in this these terms and conditions represent the full extent of your rights in respect of the product and all warranties, representations (except fraudulent misrepresentations), conditions and all other terms of any kind whatsoever implied by statute or common law are excluded from your pre-order to the maximum extent permitted by law. We shall not be liable to you for any loss of profit or for indirect or consequential loss suffered by you whether as a result of any breach of these terms by us or as a result of our negligence. These limitations and exclusions of liability shall not apply to our liability: (a) for death or personal injury caused by negligence; (b) under Part 1 of the Consumer Protection Act 1987; (c) due to any breach by us of the conditions and terms as to title or warranty as to quiet possession; or (d) for fraud and fraudulent misrepresentation.

No, you do not know this is a fact. Fiaz could drop by once a week to pick up the mail. Their father could forward it to them. You have NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON THERE.

I have just spoke to a friend who has told me there has been nothing going on there for MONTHS and that flyers and posters are covering the shutters, having to be removed by locals because they are unsightly. Benjamin07 sent debt collectors there who spoke to the local neighbourhood and they corroborated this.

You know it's funny, I seem to remember warning people about Alpha many months ago and got pretty much the same response:
We know how that turned out

Well I've posted what I have been told by people ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND THERE but if you choose to ignore it that's up to you. What you do with your time and money is up to you, but even if you got an award from a Judge I think there is very little chance you will ever see a penny of it.

Hey can anyone confirm if the terms have changed on the site in the last few days?
https://alpha-t.net/terms-order/

Was the penultimate paragraph there a few days ago with (a)-(d) exclusions?

If that was really added in the last day or so, it's definitely a response to posts here in this thread IMO.

Have done this and got:


Contact Consumer Direct

Thank you for taking time to complete the Action Fraud report. So far from the answers you have provided this does not appear to be a fraud that we can report. However this is a matter that should be reported to Citizens Advice.

We suggest that you try to resolve the issue with the supplier if possible, or if this is not possible, contact Consumer Direct. Citizens Advice are a Government funded service who provide information and advice on consumer issues.

Citizens Advice can be contacted on 08454 040 506. Open 9am - 5pm Monday to Friday.


Entered information honestly and correctly.


€dit: Yo, solved. Had to check "others on forums are affected", now i can proceed.

You won't be laughing for long, because you will need to attend the hearing in person. It seems you are not based in the UK, so a considerable extra financial risk to take if you want to actually have any chance of winning the court action.