Topic: Alternative Electricity for Mining - page 17. (Read 28103 times)

I agree spare parts would be nice to keep on hand. The parts list is on the first post of this thread. I am using this one

One good option is the inverter has a built in battery charger that when all else fails it kicks in and will charge the batteries from your home power if you choose to connect this feature. The battery charger will then run the inverter and provide 150 amps of charge power to the batteries until the batteries are charged or your main charging source is fixed. Even running this charger is cheaper then mining directly on your house wiring it would cost about $150 a month for this charger to run 24/7

https://www.amazon.com/Dayton-3K771-Motor-60hz-Belt/dp/B001GBMNS4

Did you just disprove the first and second law of thermodynamics???

On the Bitcointalk forum?!?!!!

You need to look into power up and down conversions and how a inverter works. You say it cant work but an inverter can take 12vdc and turn it into 120vac …..my design just uses bigger input power to get super high output power.


Pick your video

https://www.google.com/search?ei=QLEyXNuKHOvIjgTC8JBg&q=off-grid+wind+power+videos&oq=off-grid+wind+power+videos&gs_l=psy-ab.3...20523.21396..22379...0.0..0.146.543.2j3......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i304i39.X6JZXhYCnIU

this is a 6.3kw system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-luiwi9MCg


Instead of wind I use an electric motor to turn the PMG Generator head.

I considered the 3 phase pwm generator but chose the 24v I can get replacement batteries fast and easy and I use the 24v side for welding things sometimes.

I don't understand why some say it wont work when it does and has for years. I guess if it don't work then they will be walking to work tomorrow because their alternator isn't going to keep their car running.... LOL   The first units I built I used ac delco alternators and ran with a 5hp electric motor. The PWM generators made things so much simpler.

I also run similar system, only with inverter with less total power, but three phases, and I can confirm it works.

The inverter does the conversion and yes you can make 35 a month create you hundreds of dollars in useable electric.

Using the batteries, generator head and power inverter.

If it were not possible wind and solar systems wouldn't be around.

You only need to keeps the batteries charged not power the inverter.

The generator head produces 2000watts of 24vdc so your 500 watts of ac power is now 2000watts of dc power then we now use the inverter to convert the 2000watts dc back into 60000watts ac useable power.

Link to one if the thousands of people magically producing more power from a battery bank than was inputted into it.

No joke apparently you don't understand how it all works. Apparently many of you don't understand how a power inverter works or how the wind generator operates.

Using an electric motor is no different then the wind driving it. It may cost me 35 a month for the motor compared to free wind but the outcome is the same.... lots of power free or at very low cost.


Search the internet and you can find thousands of people making systems like this or similar using water to turn the generator head.

What? It was a joke. At least i think so. I was amused.

Now reading through the rest of the topic i'm even more amused.

Apparently you don't understand how the wind generators operate and the types Missouri Wind and Solar sell..... Your last comment was definitely uncalled for when you apparently are not familiar with alternate electricity options. You should also read the diagram better it shows the electric motor running the wind generator head eliminating the need to the wind to be present.


To satisfy I changed the topic to alternative electricity. I will break it down for you all....

The generator head is turned by the 1/4 hp electric motor it costs about 35 a month to run that motor 24/7 from my home wiring.

If I plug my miners in my home wiring my electric is over 400 a month.

So it is cheaper to run the electric motor on my home wiring then it is to run the miner.

Ok so back to where I was....

The motor turns the generator head which in turn keeps the batteries charged to run the inverter.

Using a regular battery charger would cost you about 100 or more a month to charge the batteries.

The inverter is 15kw-60kw output which is enough to run many miners. (This same amount of electric on a home line would cost you hundreds of dollars per month)

If you have enough to spare you could run the electric motor from the inverter also which would then create a loop and run 100% free.

This setup isn't for people running 1 or 2 miners unless they are high power use machines. It was designed for a system that uses 3kw or higher amounts of electricity to reduce their power costs.

Electric price breakdown.....

Miners on home power $400+ to electric company
Miners on inverter system $35 a month to electric company
Inverter system on regular batt charger $100 a month to electric company
Inverter system on loopbacked electric motor $0 monthly cost (not recommended for mining)

No matter what you wont get 60kw of power from the electric company for $35 a month with this setup you can and 60kw is enough to run a couple houses.

Cheapest option for stable mining is the $35 a month option.

Basically you are building a wind system without the wind and using the electric motor to be your wind.

You can find many videos online with various configurations Missouri Wind and Solar has helped me with setup and design of different systems. If you live on a river you can use water instead of the electric motor to run the generator.

Maybe you aren't looking at the whole picture or don't understand what is going on? This is a modified wind system. Wind systems have been used for off-grid power for many years now.

Using the electric motor to be your wind still requires power to run.  So if it takes $35 bucks of power to run the electric motor 500 watts in a month it will not magically generate or convert to $500 bucks of power or 5000watts to power the rig.  You can only transfer that $35 bucks of power 500 watts into the battery.

Perpetum mobile invented?

Okay I took a closer look at the diagram and guess what it's getting power from your house to charge up batteries, This is not free.!  All your doing is charging up your batteries. This is not free electricity or cheap electricity.  This is only good when you have a power outage.  Otherwise your actually wasting more electricity to charge up batteries than compared to just powering up your miners from a 120 volt outlet from your house.

As someone mentioned above you can't destroy or create energy, you can only transfer it.  Thats why you need the main source to be from solar panels or wind or nuclear if you want cheap electricity.

I bet I'm arguing with a kid that smokes too much pot and failed science class in high school.

Yes please video

 
In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another.

How is running a motor 24x7 which produces heat (wasted energy)  to charge a bank of batteries using a generator and then converting to 110 or 220 via an inverter that also wastes energy more efficient than the elec company..

Show us a video.

Actually it does work and reduced my power cost from over 400 a month to 35-37 a month. I use regular power to run the electric motor which cost 35 or so a month the unit produces the power I need to mine. 35 a month compared to over 400 is a huge savings. The unit can run with 1 battery or more depending on how you want to configure it. The generator heads are not like a regular generator these have no cogging and spin very easy. Basically you are making wind generator without the wind. You are using a 1/4 hp motor which is cost effective.

Lets see your starter solar system keep you going and produce 60kw of power for 3k. This is based off the wind system using an electric motor to turn the generator head instead of wind. Therefore the only power source you need is to run the electric motor which costs about 35 a month. If you cant figure out the electric motor needs power to turn then I guess this setup isn't for you. Also the system requires 2 pullies 1 on the motor and 1 on the generator head not a bunch of them.

I put the information out there for people to consider as an alternate power source for mining. It works and I have a few people using this setup for mining and other purposes. Missouri Wind and Solar helped with the configuration so unless you are and expert in the field then please keep your negative comments out of the post so people who are interested may ask questions.

Wow so stupid I see a punch of pullies and batteries but no power source.

For 3k you can get a starter solar system.

I'm disappointed with mining from bitcointalk. The quality has gotten much poor compared to last year