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Topic: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS (Read 11944 times)

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Why can't we use just a tiny little nuke and vaporize these assholes once and for all!!

You've apparently forgotten Hiroshima
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Why can't we use just a tiny little nuke and vaporize these assholes once and for all!!
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It is very easy to believe that they use those people who can speak the best English to speak in English in their propaganda vídeos aimed towards Americans.
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Did the video for the second assassination ever get liveleaked
See the one for James Foley but not the other journalist.

You can find the other video on gore sites but liveleak put out a message that they won't be posting or allowing the sotloff video on their site
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Did the video for the second assassination ever get liveleaked
See the one for James Foley but not the other journalist.
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Unfortunately, no country will take this seriously because we have neutralized more journalists than ISIS ever will.
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I deplore this murder.
I worry that it makes me want revenge and to strike back. I suspect that is what these lunatics want.
As many other posters comment, I suspect we are not far off boots on the ground time. But our last little escapade is what led to the vacuum that ISIS now fills. What on earth will we get after this lot are crushed?
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The act of barbarism speaks for itself.
At this juncture, any western journalist going to Syria or Iraq to investigate or write a story should have his or her family institutionalize them for their own safety.
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ISIS
is mainly a group that is killing Muslims and is oppressing Muslims.
Yet people are associating them with Islam. Boggles my mind.

Shit, fundamentalism and the adulterous association of church and state hurts the religion more than it benefits the state
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ISIS
is mainly a group that is killing Muslims and is oppressing Muslims.
Yet people are associating them with Islam. Boggles my mind.
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Our media won't focus on those we call our allies, the Middle Eastern countries (I'm not going to name any to steer clear of misinterpretation and controversy!) who behead immigrants for smoking weed

I think the purpose of the mainstream media to focus on just this video is to make this another 9/11, another excuse to go to war so the buddies who made massive profits because of the Iraq war can once again find more ways to fill their pockets, using the puppet Obama as a middle man.

We can knock 'em back into the stone age and make them start all over again. Like an ant farm. Maybe at some point and with some generation, they will get the clue.

I smell "White man's burden"
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We can knock 'em back into the stone age and make them start all over again. Like an ant farm. Maybe at some point and with some generation, they will get the clue.
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Even Wikileaks has made available reports detailing Saudi intelligence chief Bandar bin Sultan's post-US Ambassador directives to work with US administrations to strengthen Salafist jihadis against foreign Iranian-supported elements.
That doesn't necessarily mean support for the IS.


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There is a myriad of solid circumstantial evidence for someone not to presume that the Saudi-Salafist network is not active in Syria or not being supported by official al-Saud arms.
Of course they've supported Salafist organizations, all Salafists aren't the same though (all Salafist groups aren't even violent) and the question isn't do they support Salafists, its do they support the IS.
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Notice how you keep dodging that question
When was the last time that you participated in a march against Islamic extremism? How about radical Christian groups that engage in violence? How about against terrorist organizations that the US has supported like Jundallah? It's interesting that you keep dodging THAT question. The simple fact is that you have a clear double standard and expect others to do something that you can't even be bothered to get up and do yourself.
Are you eve qualified to make these assertions about the unavailability of public data? Even Wikileaks has made available reports detailing Saudi intelligence chief Bandar bin Sultan's post-US Ambassador directives to work with US administrations to strengthen Salafist jihadis against foreign Iranian-supported elements. There is a myriad of solid circumstantial evidence for someone not to presume that the Saudi-Salafist network is not active in Syria or not being supported by official al-Saud arms.
Yes.
Qatar, Kuwait and the UAE less so than Saudi Arabia. Us pressure has been pretty instrumental in the past couple months in terms of cracking down on financial chains coming from Gulf States.
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Indeed, the Grand Mufi of Saudi Arabia, the Grand Mufti of Egypt, and the head of turkey's Islamic community have all publicly condemned the ISIS which rounds out the big Sunni three. Throw on top of that the condemnations by the Arab League, and Iran and pretty much all of the big official bases are covered.
would be interesting to see what PREVIOUS denouncements of Islamic extremism that did NOT directly threaten THEM that they made.

And by the way since you like to ignore things like this can you point out anything like that from the Islamic communities in the US or UK or anyplaces like that?

OR actually any marches protesting Islamic extremism in the West?

Notice how you keep dodging that question
A lot. Just because you never pay attention doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. There were strong condemnations of 9/11, of Al Qaeda, of extremism in general, we see Islamic clerics assassinated all of the time for espousing moderate views in the face of radicals. Dozens this year alone. We've even seen considerable progress in the area of womens rights over the last several years within mainstream theological views including a denouncement of female genital mutilation from the head of the four main schools of Islamic Sunni though (which is based out of Egypt).
The Saudi governmental decision to designate the aforementioned groups as terror organizations is an implicit acknowledgment that the removal of al-Assad's regime by violence was no longer possible. Not because of US pressure. The Saudis (and Qataris) only made those designations out of necessity to formally address the inadvertent threat from Syria, which is the hyper influx of jihadi combatants returning from there.
Incorrect, it was largely because of the threat that Saudi Arabia felt that such groups posed to its own governing abilities domestically. Your assertion also assumes that Saudi Arabia only would have an interest in completely removing Assad, while ignoring the potential political benefits of simply promoting instability through protracted conflict even if the supported side ended up losing (a pretty common tactic used within realist policy making).
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Notice how you keep dodging that question
When was the last time that you participated in a march against Islamic extremism? How about radical Christian groups that engage in violence? How about against terrorist organizations that the US has supported like Jundallah? It's interesting that you keep dodging THAT question. The simple fact is that you have a clear double standard and expect others to do something that you can't even be bothered to get up and do yourself.
Are you eve qualified to make these assertions about the unavailability of public data? Even Wikileaks has made available reports detailing Saudi intelligence chief Bandar bin Sultan's post-US Ambassador directives to work with US administrations to strengthen Salafist jihadis against foreign Iranian-supported elements. There is a myriad of solid circumstantial evidence for someone not to presume that the Saudi-Salafist network is not active in Syria or not being supported by official al-Saud arms.
sr. member
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Indeed, the Grand Mufi of Saudi Arabia, the Grand Mufti of Egypt, and the head of turkey's Islamic community have all publicly condemned the ISIS which rounds out the big Sunni three. Throw on top of that the condemnations by the Arab League, and Iran and pretty much all of the big official bases are covered.
would be interesting to see what PREVIOUS denouncements of Islamic extremism that did NOT directly threaten THEM that they made.

And by the way since you like to ignore things like this can you point out anything like that from the Islamic communities in the US or UK or anyplaces like that?

OR actually any marches protesting Islamic extremism in the West?

Notice how you keep dodging that question
A lot. Just because you never pay attention doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. There were strong condemnations of 9/11, of Al Qaeda, of extremism in general, we see Islamic clerics assassinated all of the time for espousing moderate views in the face of radicals. Dozens this year alone. We've even seen considerable progress in the area of womens rights over the last several years within mainstream theological views including a denouncement of female genital mutilation from the head of the four main schools of Islamic Sunni though (which is based out of Egypt).
The Saudi governmental decision to designate the aforementioned groups as terror organizations is an implicit acknowledgment that the removal of al-Assad's regime by violence was no longer possible. Not because of US pressure. The Saudis (and Qataris) only made those designations out of necessity to formally address the inadvertent threat from Syria, which is the hyper influx of jihadi combatants returning from there.
sr. member
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Notice how you keep dodging that question
When was the last time that you participated in a march against Islamic extremism? How about radical Christian groups that engage in violence? How about against terrorist organizations that the US has supported like Jundallah? It's interesting that you keep dodging THAT question. The simple fact is that you have a clear double standard and expect others to do something that you can't even be bothered to get up and do yourself.
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And by the way since you like to ignore things like this can you point out anything like that from the Islamic communities in the US or UK or anyplaces like that? OR actually any marches protesting Islamic extremism in the West?
Easily, it happens all of the time.

Norway: http://www.torontosun.com/2014/08/27...y-against-isis

Michigan: http://twitchy.com/2014/08/25/muslim...humane-crimes/

London: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-9673410.html

Paris: http://www.usnews.com/news/world/art...ic-state-group

After 9/11 The British Muslim Council paid to take out full page advertisements against terrorism in British newspapers. The Nigerian Islamic council was quick to denounce Boko Haram as well, and in Egypt a couple of years ago we saw Egyptian Muslims stand outside Coptic churches during Christmas masses in order to protect them from attacks by radicals.

Once again, just because you can't be bothered to pay attention doesn't mean that these things don't exist.
sr. member
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Indeed, the Grand Mufi of Saudi Arabia, the Grand Mufti of Egypt, and the head of turkey's Islamic community have all publicly condemned the ISIS which rounds out the big Sunni three. Throw on top of that the condemnations by the Arab League, and Iran and pretty much all of the big official bases are covered.
would be interesting to see what PREVIOUS denouncements of Islamic extremism that did NOT directly threaten THEM that they made.

And by the way since you like to ignore things like this can you point out anything like that from the Islamic communities in the US or UK or anyplaces like that?

OR actually any marches protesting Islamic extremism in the West?

Notice how you keep dodging that question
A lot. Just because you never pay attention doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. There were strong condemnations of 9/11, of Al Qaeda, of extremism in general, we see Islamic clerics assassinated all of the time for espousing moderate views in the face of radicals. Dozens this year alone. We've even seen considerable progress in the area of womens rights over the last several years within mainstream theological views including a denouncement of female genital mutilation from the head of the four main schools of Islamic Sunni though (which is based out of Egypt).
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