Topic: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS - page 3. (Read 11939 times)

The bloke on the video cutting a head off, surely each year you might only get as many as a couple of these HD video renderings offered by a few isolated nutters each year ? Plus it was an English bloke what did it.

Israelis can bomb hundreds of tower blocks in Gaza and wipe out thousands of poor babies and women over the years, nothing like the numbers of a few isolated IS / ISIS beheadings.

Also the numbers of deaths of carpet bombed Cambodians or Afghans / Iraqi deaths by the US of babies and women make a laughing stock of the tiny minuscule number of head chop hatchet jobs. They are not even using proper axes.

What the USG could do is establish a new wing of the armed forces of those who'd otherwise face dishonorable discharge for something violent, preferably rape, and ideally, child rape -- arm 'em with a generous supply of ammo, then drop them in Damascus with no money and no orders.

ETA: WAIT! No -- prison overpopulation in the US solved! Send the worst of the worst on "diplomatic missions!"

The US systems of government keep the US heavily under shit hole conditions in many states, especially with the failed dark ages approach of capital punishment in use and guns out of control, like some of the atrocious hell holes in darkest africa.

Triple fact rating +1 as confirmed by fact finding factions of the northern fact bureau of facts and figures. Fact.

If playing golf helps mister hussein obama come up with a legitimate plan to eradicate Islam from the planet, then yes, him playing was definitely a good thing.

No. My thought is to make an example of ISIS and the civilians who acquiesce to it. Something shocking and savage which will form a strong cultural memory amongst the people there, sort of like how the Crusader sack of Maarrat al-Nu'man did. They're used to weak responses and have no idea of how much stronger Western forces are in comparison... if they simply had the will to use their power reasonably.

So your thought is to destroy civilian population centers of people that have been recently conquered by ISIS at least partially because ISIS took over some American weaponry?

That should work well.
Do people still have conversations with you on purpose?

was it right for obama to play golf right after?

While the US policy of not negotiating with terrorists is unquestionably correct, the lack of resolve in an effective response to this atrocity is kind of pathetic. Why not tell them that you're going to flatten a population center under ISIS control each day until the other hostage is released? Also assure them that the second hostage being executed will result in Raqqa being turned into a Dresden redux.

America has more than enough conventional ordinance to lay waste to ISIS controlled regions of Syria to a level unseen since Tamerlane did in the 15th century. Why not give them something to fear?

Exactly. You can't really pretend to be the more civilized party or country when you resort to stooping down to their level. People get angry because a westerner has been beheaded, but don't seem to mind when their armies blow civilian children to bits in the process of getting "justice" or retribution. You can't fight terrorism with more terrorism.

Journalist is a kind of independent profesional, so if they are getting news from the war area, they must be protecting by the law of journalist
so if james foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS, it's a high rank of crime, so ISIS must be responsible what has been done to the reporter
hopefully there is a justice for this high rank crime ...

The beheading of a Human being like as if he was an animal, clearly shows how cold blooded and backward this Islamic militants are.

I don't think it's reasonable to not accept that Foley was beheaded by ISIS (though yeah, I've had the displeasure of watching a few Taliban execution videos which leaked out, and they're very different, but people and organizations are all different, so...), but it's difficult to justify more deaths (including Americans) to fight something which can't die (or at least, something which the USG has shown it can't or won't kill). We fought the Taliban. Their numbers were estimated at ~45,000 when we went in. Now, they're estimated to be 60,000 strong and growing (AFTER killing tens of thousands of 'em), and in the meantime, our thirst for justice has led to >3,000 ISAF deaths, >10,000 Afghan National Security deaths, and ~20,000 civilian/contractor deaths.

Moreover, very frankly, meddling in Iraq and Afghanistan has cost the USG $4-6T, money which could've been spent elsewhere, certainly including life-saving sectors desperate for funding. In low-development countries, a life can be saved for ~$400-2,000. In the US - and this is mostly out of my ass - maybe $40,000 for someone who could be cured of something but isn't because they can't pay for it, or deaths of crimes brought by poverty. -So, outside the ~2,600 American deaths, we used enough money to've effectively eradicated poor healthcare and famine in third- and second-world countries, or basically every American dying of a death which could've been prevented by having more wealth (for years if incurable).

I mean - can you just imagine how much better off everyone would be if we simply donated $1T in material aid to Afghanistan (~20-30x their annual GDP) and DIDN'T blow their infrastructure to Hell and frequently halted or impeded business? Maybe we wouldn't be spending so much just on counternarcotics in Afghanistan if our efforts were to build people up instead of shooting them down - maybe Afghanis really would raise llamas instead of growing poppies. US companies could still make the goods, and then we'd have a stronger useful economy instead of a stronger kill economy, and there's no reason for civil war when there's little resource scarcity. Look at that, and it's just.... why try suffocating terrorists with their own blood when we could just suffocate them by dropping hundreds of thousands of canned goods, books, medical supplies, seeds, livestock (... well, I'm not sure if there's a cheap way of safely dropping hundreds of lambs from hundreds of ft up), and building materials on their hideouts? When an "enemy combatant" is identified out in the open, I have no doubt it would be far more beneficial to literally just spray so much USD at him, he's knocked over and can't breathe because he has hundreds of pounds of fiat crushing his body and preventing air circulation. There aren't many wrong changes we could make compared to how awful the consequences of military intervention is.

It's the same damned thing for police, prisons, and related. Police and an outrageously high prison population can only deal with symptoms of a problem (and maybe not even in an effective way), and we still throw more money at treatment than we do at a cure. (alright, I'm out of high-horse one-liners, now)

Oh, you want civilised world to put them down? To kill more people? Lol

They are a bunch of murderous scumbags
The civilised world needs to pull its finger out and get medieval on them

It's bad that ISIS is killing people but something is wrong with this war

They had almost 2 years to prepare for this inevitable event, unlike Brown's parents. They chose to celebrate and share his life remembered in public, and let their grief be their own, privately.

Now, it may be that they're just too white to reveal actual emotion on TV, but those are not real emotions from real parents who just lost a son. Perhaps they knew what was going to happen, there is a story now that they received an email from their son.
They definitely aren't trying to question what has happened. They certainly said nothing to the effect of the speech the beheaded son made in regards to his Air Force brother. Not even to comfort his brother.

And who the hell was calling the dad's cell during the interview?! It was frantic and obviously the caller knew they were in the middle of an international interview.. and kept calling! The message appeared to be "we really need Jesus" from the change in focus from the parents.


Now. I present the parents of Michael Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43NAG0s5L_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xORC3Kfhw0Y

Do you see the difference? It's on their faces. Their messages differ as well, but these parents did lose a son and are still dealing with the reality of it all. Brown's parents seem authentic. Foley's parents seem like actors.

Yes, it has been confirmed to be authentic. It was obtained by SITE intelligence from the al Furqan Media Foundation (IS media wing), and confirmed by several independent sources including the US government.

As for why that "educated" terrorist? Probably because it was a "Message to America" and he spoke English.

It seems that all it takes to be a terrorist in the area controlled by ISIS is a black headwrap and some swarthy speech. I bet Foley could have pulled that off.

He's bigger than his killer too, physically taller.


I want you to watch his family though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j03S0m8cTSo

Watch his mother.

Why not? Both prisoners were photo journalists. Obviously Foley lost the coin toss...