Topic: American journalist James Foley reportedly beheaded by ISIS - page 4. (Read 11939 times)

Beheading is engaged in because it is seen as a humiliating way to execute someone. It is part of the propaganda related symbolism that these videos ooze with, but are often lost on US viewers. If you notice he was also dressed up in orange, which is a popular Jihadi symbolic reference to Guantanamo Bay (as is the shaven head, though the shaving of one's head can also be a holy act during the Hajj).

So what, have one prisoner hold the camera while he watches the other get beheaded?

There must have been more than one terrorist there. Otherwise why would the two of them, the prisoner journalists, not just rush their captor? If he shoots them it has to be a better death than beheading via paring knife while filmed on GoPro.

GoPro cameras and a hands on approach.

So here's a question I see no one has asked. Is this video actually for real?

We see a prisoner with a knife to his throat, then we see a body.

The parents were on the news, they didn't act like they had just seen their son beheaded.

Also, is it just me or are production values extremely good on terrorist videos these days? And that terrorist seems very well educated. Why did he also commit the beheading? Why not get someone else to do it?

I agree, this is much worse. Believing that "god" is telling you to do something is much more convincing then some person giving orders. These people are much more unlikely to realize what they are doing is wrong. 

James Foley was a victim of murder, but by the content and the presentation of how ISIS decided to execute him suggest that Foley was also victim of being forced to say the things he said in his last moments.

In his last moments the ISIS scum manage to intimidate Foley long enough to make him say the things he said, since one of goals of ISIS is to make an state that dominates every Islamic country and put they're will over others by force, is obvious that they will use the worst kind of intimidation that will make them control the people they have in they're power and make them obey.


ISIS breaks every value of the Islamic ways and killing journalist and reporters because they inform the world the truth is really depreciable and a sign of having no sense of dignity, they´re goals are truly worthless.

That is why they are called the "Religion of Peace." Because when they kill you, they do it in a "Peaceful" way. Actually it's the Religion of Pieces, because when they murder you, you usually end up in pieces.

This problem cannot be looked at in Isolation, The whole swamp of hatred in the middle east is as a result of the money garbing western policies that first set up the dictatorial puppets so they could exploit the oil, then they went in and supported the "arab spring" and pumped heaps of weapons into the this festering swamp of hatred. Now because of this you have many pissed off second generation Muslims coming from Europe to join in what they see a legitimate war against all these western manipulations to eradicate any future western puppet democracy, Invading under bush was a bad idea and going after IS will result in even more extreme retaliation. If these youth return to Europe they going to bring this chaos there. Why these politicians are so short-sighted is beyond comprehension. The instability and misery they are causing will blow back. Drone attacks and arming people is not a solution. Israel just assassinated some Hamas  leaders while "negotiations" were supposedly taking place

The only conclusion I can draw is; to these psychopathic leaders peace is not the prize, we are all expendable. The more conflicts there are, the more justification they have to kill and steel resources. Although the beheading of the journalist by IS is horrific, the complete reckless impunity that these leaders knowingly instigate an perpetuate violence war and hatred is far worse.                  

All of this is how war has been handled throughout history. The new idea of a polite and equitable war is unlikely to continue for long. Mostly it's been horrendous and filled with atrocities.

If it's a religious component you'd like then I would point to the LRA which has been operating since 1986 (though it is pretty small scale now). With the ISIS we've seen massacres and persecutions done in "God's name." we've seen that with the LRA too, though the LRA have also used different tactics in terms of heavy child soldier usage, forcing children to rape their grandparents and kill their family so that even if they escape they will forever be shunned in their home community (goal is to cut down on defection), we've seen recruitment tactics from them that involve burning down a school and capturing those who make it out alive, the beheading, debreasting, and other forms of mutilation of entire villages with machetes and the mass rape of thousands.

I'd point also to the Liberian Civil War, the civil war in Sierra Leone, the DRC conflicts, the Rwandan Genocide, the Bosnian Genocide, the Genocide in Darfur, etc. There are plenty of examples of incredibly horrible and near incomprehensible human treatment of each other, particularly during conflict.

Quite disturbing trend that American can get killed anywhere with the killer not having to face justice.

The country should held their citizen accountable for violent crime.

The Nazis, as evil as they were, had a secular leader, a Furher, telling them what to do. But ISIS is saying God Almighty is telling them to do this. That is much worse in my opinion. If you think the creator of the Universe is telling you to cut heads off.

Having a Mossad Agent at the hem of ISIS probably means he is going to encourage the radicals into the area. This will also cause normal people to migrate. So whats left will be expendable. Though I think a lot of innocents will be killed also. Families of older members who are not mobile enough to travel will stay behind to care for their immobile elders.


Sad, really sad.

What exactly is this magical foreign policy you are looking for, that you obviously think will make these terrorist zealots love us and stop trying to kill us?

Its obvious that obamas foreign policy in the ME that is to do the exact opposite of what bush did is a failure on every count. Its obvious that he should have addressed the war in Syria when it started instead of waiting for it to explode and create isis. And its obvious that the peace loving moderate muslims in the ME and across the globe are not going to lift a finger to stop the radicals and will allow them to continue on their rampage until the evil west stops them and then the moderate muslims can bitch about western intervention in the ME.

Damn, man! Human killing another human is sick and twisted. Doing it on purpose is something beyond the borders of this reality. I totally agree with you. And with the risk of sounding cliche, in the end it's all about money and power which you can't take when you die eventually.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/423eb5d2-288e-11e4-8bda-00144feabdc0.html

For Fawaz Gerges, professor of international relations at the London School of Economics and an expert in al-Qaeda and Islamic extremism, the defining characteristic of the Isis/AQI approach, however is the their particular “use of violence”.

“Groups like al-Qaeda used violence in a tactical way, in a way proportional to their aims,” he says. “For Isis and AQI the savagery is the point. The action is what matters, not the ideas. To Zarqawi and Baghdadi [the Isis leader], the spectacle and the limitless force – beheadings, crucifications, people being buried alive – is what matters.”

And what are you going to do different than Obama? Spew threats at Islam? Round up all Muslims and put them in internment camps.


What exactly is this magical foreign policy you are looking for, that you obviously think will make these terrorist zealots love us and stop trying to kill us?

I believe the same hope was a reality in the heads of ancient Greek philosophers 3000 years ago...

Being human is depressing as fuck. How can animals like these exist, and im talking about both the beheaders and the fucking USA bombers. War = you are a retard that cannot solve things with inteligence, aka talking about it. Fucking half evolved imbreed monkeys we are. I wish I was born in year 10000 when I hope there are no wars anymore because we are past barbaric concepts such as religions, private property and scarcity.