Regardless of the status of the case, there are viable criminal charges here that can supersede any class action. The death threats, the wire fraud, not to mention a number of civil issues that have already been remanded to the appropriate civil groups to look into. There are plenty of things here that Josh has done that deserve some kind of action. As he seems to think his sockpuppeting makes him untouchable (admins do have access to the IPs the posts are posted from so exposing sock puppetry is easy). IF the mods posted the IPs used by AMT and the suspected sock puppets, that would expose the fraudulent behavior as well. If not legally at least to the community who could ensure they can never financially damage people from this forum again.
I'll just go on the offensive here and start breaking down your posts good sir. Your allegations of criminal charges are opinionated and false. As a company, they have not done anything illegal, hence the reason that I will invest in them. Contact civil institution needs merit. The only grounds that you may get someone's attention is the lack of response to refund requests. But as the company has been under financial duress, and corporate accounting information (as I'm told) should surface soon with the class action, so that's understandable.
Regarding admins and sockpuppeting, I can't speak to much to that as I don't really understand the technical side to a forum. But are there people in his new small office in Jenkintown. Yes 2 young girls. Do they do much? I wouldn't assume so. So just a heads up there, its a matter of time before another client verifies that and it will counter your claim of "false employees". You aruge that they don't support their clients, and when they support them you call them fake employees? A little contradictive? If you notice, only the same individuals are writing on these threads. And Mr. Opieum, it almost seems like your talking to yourself. Rallying up the community against a 27 year old guy who you feel you've lost your money to, are you serious? Lets get provocative for a moment.
Ok let's break down what YOU said Josh....I am not going to pretend I am as dumb as you are.
Your allegations of criminal charges are opinionated and false. As a company, they have not done anything illegal, hence the reason that I will invest in them. Contact civil institution needs merit. The only grounds that you may get someone's attention is the lack of response to refund requests. But as the company has been under financial duress, and corporate accounting information (as I'm told) should surface soon with the class action, so that's understandable. Opinions yes...I state when I have the opinions and that is accurate.....opinions cannot be false as they are held by my perception of the matters based on the FACTS, things spoken by YOU Josh Zipkin CEO of AMT. Interesting you mention the refunds as a sockpuppet since you are in fact acknowledging it, since there are people who have asked and you have not refunded. Again bringing me to another point I made earlier....HOW do YOU a customer know of their financial situation. Is Josh truly that stupid to divulge that information willy nilly...yea he is actually because I and a couple of others have the Skype chats to prove it. BUT since you might get away with this in the class do not assume this is over by a long shot. There is more to come
wait for it. With your short attention span issues
you can't see but 5 minutes in front of you. The big picture is lost. So keep on with your obvious deceptions. It won't end well for you.
Again Refund the people the difference to the miners. You in this case are the Pharaoh and we are Hebrews telling you to let us go lest you get hit with the plagues.....I am sure you can appreciate the irony in that statement. This is not anti-semetic, just stating that you are attempting to be an oppressive and vindictive individual who thinks he has power over us. Instead we are starting to rise up and demonstrate that there is power over you that will allow us to prevail.
Regarding admins and sockpuppeting, I can't speak to much to that as I don't really understand the technical side to a forum. But are there people in his new small office in Jenkintown. Yes 2 young girls. Do they do much? I wouldn't assume so. So just a heads up there, its a matter of time before another client verifies that and it will counter your claim of "false employees". You aruge that they don't support their clients, and when they support them you call them fake employees? A little contradictive? If you notice, only the same individuals are writing on these threads. And Mr. Opieum, it almost seems like your talking to yourself. Rallying up the community against a 27 year old guy who you feel you've lost your money to, are you serious? Lets get provocative for a moment. Well since we are on this let's break it down. My claim? Actually Josh, YOU told me this and I will quote below YOUR words Josh cause I am not entertaining the retarded notion you are someone else. And since I am confident that this is Joshua Zipkin I am sure I won't see any kind of action from a Paul Augustine beyond a badly worded PM. Here is an excerpt of me "talking to myself":
[8/14/2014 11:26:00 AM] Joshua: i dont care about it enough to handle it
[8/14/2014 11:26:07 AM] Joshua: its just some more bullshit
[8/14/2014 11:26:30 AM] Joshua: this forum doesnt matter, and im pretty sure its phin
[8/14/2014 11:26:56 AM] Me: You ever do anything about phin with ADL?
[8/14/2014 11:27:03 AM] Me: Just curious seeing he is acting up again
[8/14/2014 11:27:07 AM] Me: with the whole Jewish thing.
[8/14/2014 11:27:12 AM] Joshua: just got off the phone with a few guys from NY, they are interested in the petapharm with the powerplant deal
[8/14/2014 11:27:21 AM] Joshua: i wrote them a notice they never responded
[8/14/2014 11:27:34 AM] Me: Hmm
[8/14/2014 11:27:53 AM] Me: Well his account did get banned around that time
[8/14/2014 11:28:02 AM] Me: so its possible they took action just didnt tell you
[8/14/2014 11:28:40 AM] Joshua: couldbe
[8/14/2014 11:28:47 AM] Joshua: but all of his stuff is still up
[8/14/2014 11:29:09 AM] Me: Eh they may never take it all down. best they can do is block his account.
[8/14/2014 11:29:20 AM] Joshua: right
[8/14/2014 11:29:31 AM] Joshua: one day ill have it have it hacked
[8/14/2014 11:30:18 AM] Me: What about Phin tho? He will just come back.
[8/14/2014 11:30:30 AM] Me: Unless there is some action you can take like a cease and desist
(Which I already knew GG had been served but knew he essentially wiped his ass with and was of no force)[8/14/2014 11:30:33 AM] Me: or whatever
[8/14/2014 11:30:37 AM] Joshua: I dont care, we'll sell under different names
[8/14/2014 11:31:02 AM] Joshua: we gave him a cease and desist
[8/14/2014 11:33:42 AM] Me: That reminds me I was just wondering. I know you mentioned you have no people...but what happened to your partners? Jim Brown. I saw mention of them and it got me wondering about that? where are they in all this?
[8/14/2014 11:34:01 AM] Me: I mean if they got a financial stake in this I would imagine they would be doing more here to help you out
[8/14/2014 11:34:10 AM] Joshua: not much
[8/14/2014 11:35:06 AM] Joshua: what financial stake? in the debt?
[8/14/2014 11:35:18 AM] Joshua: its not like we have dividends to hand out
[8/14/2014 11:36:29 AM] Joshua: Jim does the backend, financials and thats about it. He basically checked out after the case was filed. Hes still on board but just doesnt want to deal with clients or sales.
[8/14/2014 11:36:54 AM] Joshua: Alyssa does the accounts but she got another part time job because we couldnt afford keep her on full time
[8/14/2014 11:37:34 AM] Joshua: we basically let everyone in the US accept for a few part times girls which hang out around the office for next to nothing
[8/14/2014 11:37:55 AM] Joshua: and outsourced the office bg, and we focus on EU and Asian sales via EU and Asian incorporated companies.
[8/14/2014 11:38:30 AM] Joshua: cant do much with little funding and dont want to sell to the US driectly until this crap is all over.
[8/14/2014 11:38:47 AM] Me: Gotcha
Oh and to add Mr. "fuck the MPP" I made it clear the whole time I was helping you so that you could refund people. When you made it clear you had no intentions of making it right, that is when I realized there was no hope in working with you. That statement is the exact moment I decided I would have to work to expose you. Thankfully someone made it easier by leaking it before I did. He did a far better job than I did. I just decided to confirm it when you said it was all made up.
Oh and for a little extra fuck you here is something else you said not totally relevant to the discussion but just shows how you operate and WHO you like to emulate btw this is Josh's actual userID on skype.
Mind you these are
previously unreleased as far as I can see.
[8/4/2014 4:03:31 PM] jzdtack624: same
[8/4/2014 4:03:52 PM] jzdtack624: ok im getting it the fastest really
[8/4/2014 4:03:58 PM] jzdtack624: new orders get priority cause im a dick
[8/4/2014 4:04:14 PM] jzdtack624: seirously i need to be pull a BFL to stay alive here
[8/4/2014 4:04:40 PM] jzdtack624: 1.25ths for 1250 for you guys
[8/4/2014 4:05:06 PM] jzdtack624: including psu and a rackmount case its beats oiut bitmain
[8/4/2014 3:19:13 PM] jzdtack624: yea dont hack my stuff or anything
[8/4/2014 3:19:19 PM] jzdtack624: i know you guys are good at that stuff lol
[8/4/2014 3:20:56 PM] Me: Eh not really into that any more. I am a white hat...do it legally and with permission for penetration testing
(I do IT Security work I make WAY more doing it legally than I ever would illegally anyway not that Josh is smart enough to comprehend that ethical business practices are more profitable than unethical ones)[8/4/2014 3:21:25 PM] jzdtack624: get permission to penetrate the forum and ill give you my soul
(yet another reference to hacking BCT)