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sr. member
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September 10, 2014, 02:27:29 PM
There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.
Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

Uh yeah, he is Bulgarian. In fact, he's in Bulgaria right now - hiding from his customers.
hero member
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September 10, 2014, 02:20:39 PM
There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.
Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

Except I have not. Others may have but I have been sticking with his actions. I largely do not care about nationalities and religious affiliations. Actions make the man. And his actions and inactions are the problem here. Your personal association (because of your wives being friends his words not mine) with him will also have implications for you even if you are not guilty of anything. Just a friendly word of advice Wink I have no quarrel with you. I have mentioned he goes to Bulgaria, but that again is based on HIS own words which have been posted for the world to see. So any association to Bulgaria is based on Joshua Zipkins words and used in reference to the place not his nationality. As far as I am concerned he is an United States national/citizen, which makes him subject to USA laws.

So you may want to quote where I mention him being Bulgarian or being bad because he is Bulgarian because I have not. These are things that need to be quoted if I indeed said them. Instead you quoted one of my last posts, instead you quoted my post about collusion. Make of that what you will.

My issue here is not hate. It's about making sure the bad actors in the mining community are permanently removed. If you are above board and all your actions are in accordance with US laws (as you do sell to people here you could be held liable), then there is nothing to worry about. But collusion means this was a concerted effort to rip off the customers. And Considering that there are a few bad actors with the same exact situation as AMT. I feel it is a matter worth some investigation. Again if you are doing nothing wrong and are confident of that position, then there is nothing to worry about.

If you have the occasional customer service issue (which I do see you have), those are understandable. But when your entire customer base is screaming for refunds and suing you, then there is something to be concerned about. For your own good (again I have no problems with you marto74) I would recommend you do not stand up for him. It will not help you.
hero member
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September 10, 2014, 02:10:17 PM
There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.
Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence
hero member
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September 10, 2014, 02:01:50 PM
The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting for us and the bitcoin mining community at large....stay tuned. Wink
hero member
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September 09, 2014, 04:12:17 PM
There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.
vip
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September 09, 2014, 01:08:43 PM
www.stetc.com It looks like a Chinese TechnoBit, he's got Scrypt ASICs, Avalon ASICs and Cointerra ASICs.

"Black Arrow is a customer"

BA outsourced the miners? Am I reading this correctly?

Where the hell did you come up with that Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk!? I was simply pointing out the possibility that:

- www.stetc.com It looks like a Chinese TechnoBit, he's got Scrypt ASICs, Avalon ASICs and Cointerra ASICs.

- "Black Arrow is a customer"

- BA outsourced the miners?

See the difference?  Wink Wink Wink Am I reading your reply correctly?  Grin

We feel like you've effectively stolen our money under a false pretenses and false promises. You cannot be surprised we're all pissed off

As we have announced previously, we are testing the power supplies and waiting for CE certification team to get back to us. Until then, we cannot deliver X3s, no matter how much you flood this thread. Note that we will continue manufacturing X3s and as soon the PSU is ready we'll deliver everything that was manufactured.

We have also started working with a better factory that is able to manufacture everything very fast.


What excellent timing! I exposed them fucks, then BA opts to move the operation to a better faster Chink Joint.
legendary
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September 09, 2014, 07:38:00 AM
www.stetc.com It looks like a Chinese TechnoBit, he's got Scrypt ASICs, Avalon ASICs and Cointerra ASICs.

"Black Arrow is a customer"

BA outsourced the miners? Am I reading this correctly?
hero member
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September 08, 2014, 10:57:55 PM
Hmm, this appears to be a collusion of sorts. Least my opinion but largely based on  AMT_Miners aka Joshua Zipkin's own statements that they are working with BA, if you have 2 of the same types of companies operating from the same location, with the same issues with customers, it starts to look a bit fishy. Something else worth noting. Law enforcement is moving glacially slow on this. The only main proof I have is what Josh himself has said on the matter. Beyond that it's speculative and circumstantial....but still worth looking into to dig up more solid proof to link the two businesses.

I would also like to note that this is the Chinese company that makes the 800 dollar miners he sent us. http://www.stetc.com Something for people to note when doing business with them.

Info gleaned from the same address: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&q=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&oq=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.9370.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.kokC5Hlt61g

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&biw=1093&bih=508&q=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&oq=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.10360.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.XKgKgPfPLrI

http://www.baihangcn.com/sell/show-57845.html



So, just to confirm I have this right.

An independent member on this forum has reached out to a third party. The third party company gave confirmation that Black Arrow is a customer and the specs look accurate. Is that right?

in part. of course, yes.

So, a third party member who is totally unaffiliated and actually has been doubting us as much as everyone else has contacted a third party company who confirmed we are a customer.

I must be missing something because it seems to me like there is still a lot of doubt we are who we say we are.
Because a user pointed out that the email had been compromised in the past.

Did you by any chance try to contact the other e-mail address cc'd on your initial e-mail thread with Mr. Huang or Kwang? (I can't remember and I'm not looking through 3 pages to find out)  I know PH said that his, Huang/Kwang, was compromised but what about that other gentleman, I thought the consensus was that his apparently hadn't been.

http://www.china.cn/taishiji/3361846041.html

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Guangzhou Teng Instant Software Technology Co.

Contact: Mr. Huang

Remember when Josh said he's been to BA's facility?

IT'S THE SAME MOTHERFUCKIN' BUILDING!
vip
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September 08, 2014, 09:32:46 PM
I would also like to note that this is the Chinese company that makes the 800 dollar miners he sent us. http://www.stetc.com Something for people to note when doing business with them.

Info gleaned from the same address: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&q=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&oq=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.9370.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.kokC5Hlt61g

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&biw=1093&bih=508&q=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&oq=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.10360.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.XKgKgPfPLrI

http://www.baihangcn.com/sell/show-57845.html



So, just to confirm I have this right.

An independent member on this forum has reached out to a third party. The third party company gave confirmation that Black Arrow is a customer and the specs look accurate. Is that right?

in part. of course, yes.

So, a third party member who is totally unaffiliated and actually has been doubting us as much as everyone else has contacted a third party company who confirmed we are a customer.

I must be missing something because it seems to me like there is still a lot of doubt we are who we say we are.
Because a user pointed out that the email had been compromised in the past.

Did you by any chance try to contact the other e-mail address cc'd on your initial e-mail thread with Mr. Huang or Kwang? (I can't remember and I'm not looking through 3 pages to find out)  I know PH said that his, Huang/Kwang, was compromised but what about that other gentleman, I thought the consensus was that his apparently hadn't been.

http://www.china.cn/taishiji/3361846041.html

Quote
13725365850

Guangzhou Teng Instant Software Technology Co.

Contact: Mr. Huang

Remember when Josh said he's been to BA's facility?

IT'S THE SAME MOTHERFUCKIN' BUILDING!
hero member
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September 08, 2014, 09:03:51 PM
I would also like to note that this is the Chinese company that makes the 800 dollar miners he sent us. http://www.stetc.com Something for people to note when doing business with them.
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September 08, 2014, 08:48:30 PM
I think Joshua Zipkin expects this to go away with time. That by not posting and closing threads and all that, that somehow the money and problems he has caused us with all this will suddenly go away. He has already made a public claim he will refund us but with no timeline, the group chats he was apart of state otherwise. Of course he has said things like this before only to say something different in the group chat as I have shown using his own words. So if he still intends to sue me, he can as is his right, I will merely just show the court his OWN words on the matter. All I did was comment on things HE said. And I will continue to do so as Joshua Zipkin AKA AMT_Miners aka Paul.augustine aka Amanda will not suppress my first amendment right to express myself. I have done things well within the law. However can you Joshua Zipkin say the same? Be aware coming at me will expose you in a MUCH worse way once I have show the court what YOU have said. It was a tactically stupid move. BUT feel free to try as is your right. I do have the money and I do have the time to take you on. And WHEN I win, I will come at you for damages far in excess of the refund, financial damages as your posting of my info and false info as fact counts as libel along with criminal charges of fraud which are clear and present, (the info you claim of me are lies are where I opine, speculation which I state which is within my constitutional right to express). I have already spoken to counsel on the matter as well on this. I have said nothing false about you as they are your own words despite your claims to the contrary. BUT you have said false things about me not to mention those words likely have criminal consequences as you are a CEO and there was a business arrangement that you violated (privacy matters governed by the FTC). And I can easily prove it with YOUR own words. Is that a fight you want?

As of this writing the false information still persists. I AM already perusing this to the fullest extent that the law allows.

vip
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September 08, 2014, 08:09:27 PM
Fascinating. I wonder if these companies are made up aliases also. Not too many records of them out there outside of his mention of them.

http://thedealfair.com/ is still around.

http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/the-deal-fair

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Founded: March 30, 2011

Contact:[email protected]

Employees: 1 in CrunchBase

I'm pretty sure Joshua Zipkin is walking these streets these days: https://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&es_sm=122&q=%22133+Nishava%22+sofia&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=G1QOVIGCK476oQSW-YKACw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ
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September 08, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
Fascinating. I wonder if these companies are made up aliases also. Not too many records of them out there outside of his mention of them.
vip
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September 08, 2014, 04:06:07 PM
The word of the day is Oxymoron: An oxymoron is a figure of speech that juxtaposes elements that appear to be contradictory.

http://buzzsparks.org/person/joshua-zipkin



http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/wisdom-inc

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September 08, 2014, 01:03:44 PM
vip
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September 08, 2014, 12:59:09 PM
I want to know where Jim is. Im very curious about this guy now. I want to know how involved he is with this scam.

I wonder if their is a Jim brown

He exists. I spoke to him on the phone, and had email interactions with him. Different voice than Josh. So I know he is a different person. Whether is name is Jim Brown, that's a whole other thing. If there is a question to his identity, well we already see the sock puppet tactics here.

Didn't Phin/Gleb have some info on this.
Had a smoke or something outside the office when he visited way back when

His name was Trevor or something not Jim?
Pretty sure Phin had linked a video of him as well using a different name.


I was going to link it again even if you didn't reply to this post.

The Jim Brown I met looks like Joshua Zipkin's cousin, Tyler Loomis, and referred to Josh as his brother when we were speaking outside having a smoke. Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Dgp43QMzc
sr. member
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September 08, 2014, 12:52:15 PM
I want to know where Jim is. Im very curious about this guy now. I want to know how involved he is with this scam.

I wonder if their is a Jim brown

He exists. I spoke to him on the phone, and had email interactions with him. Different voice than Josh. So I know he is a different person. Whether is name is Jim Brown, that's a whole other thing. If there is a question to his identity, well we already see the sock puppet tactics here.

Didn't Phin/Gleb have some info on this.
Had a smoke or something outside the office when he visited way back when

His name was Trevor or something not Jim?
Pretty sure Phin had linked a video of him as well using a different name.


i had many conversations with Jim Brown. Where is he now? Josh Zipkin, AMT Miners, has been known to impersonate people online.
hero member
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September 08, 2014, 12:43:21 PM
The fact is he does more time for claiming I did classified work (high level subcontractor is pretty much that) that I did not do, that is what. Considering that it has a national security aspect of it, he stands to be in jail for a VERY long time. The fraud stuff just gets stacked up on top of it as they start to investigate. So yes he will go for fraud. And yes people say stupid shit on the internet all the time, BUT not all of those involve claiming someone does high level work for the government AND THEN posting their address online. That is some serious stuff right there. The fraud will come out anyway, AND then they will auction off his stuff and pay us back the money one way or the other. At the very least he will be in prison where he can't do any more harm to anyone.

He should be going to jail for fraud, not death threats. The death threats are just the result of him being a desperate retard with his back up against the wall.

People say stupid shit on the internet all the time, the real crime involves the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's taken - and no working product being delivered. That is REAL money that is now gone, spent on god knows what by Joshua Zipkin.

Fat fucking loser. Guys like this are the parasites of humanity.

full member
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September 08, 2014, 12:38:04 PM
I want to know where Jim is. Im very curious about this guy now. I want to know how involved he is with this scam.

I wonder if their is a Jim brown

He exists. I spoke to him on the phone, and had email interactions with him. Different voice than Josh. So I know he is a different person. Whether is name is Jim Brown, that's a whole other thing. If there is a question to his identity, well we already see the sock puppet tactics here.

Didn't Phin/Gleb have some info on this.
Had a smoke or something outside the office when he visited way back when

His name was Trevor or something not Jim?
Pretty sure Phin had linked a video of him as well using a different name.
sr. member
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September 08, 2014, 12:34:18 PM
He should be going to jail for fraud, not death threats. The death threats are just the result of him being a desperate retard with his back up against the wall.

People say stupid shit on the internet all the time, the real crime involves the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's taken - and no working product being delivered. That is REAL money that is now gone, spent on god knows what by Joshua Zipkin.

Fat fucking loser. Guys like this are the parasites of humanity.
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