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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

I don't think that this is enough reason to say it is not good to gamble in a betting agents shop. How frequent does cases like this happen? This may just be one isolated case which is not grounds to come to your conclusion.
Online bookies can decide to close your account with all your funds in there. Isn't this the same think. Anyways your message well received.

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The manager or the shop owner must have a record of their workers. We can always inquire on them and blotter them in the nearest police station so that the issue will get sorted out quickly. Cases like this are normal and even in the online gambling sites it does happen.

In fact, real-life betting are much safer because like I said earlier, people there has a record. You will know their names, location, etc.. but in the online world, it's possible to become anonymous. If I'm the winner, I will only feel bad especially if the winning moment is kind a bit rare. It can cause a trauma but I can surely moved on later on and continue playing gambling again.

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Quote from: Negotiation on October 15, 2023, 02:51:26 AM

Betting agents are not very trustworthy when it comes to online gambling so it is very difficult to get their information if they run away. Therefore before starting the gambling game you should know about these agents well. In order to facilitate the service in the case of betting the matter of appointing an agent is stuck in the plan and scammed. If you think you are starting to experience problems with betting then read the terms and conditions and privacy policy about the agents before you start betting. So you will know what rules to follow and get to know professionals who will always help you.

Do online gambling usually have agents too? Because it’s just physical shop which I have had that they have some kind of agent that help them bet sometimes due to crowds and all the rest and at the end of the day the agent gets commission. But for this online gambling that don’t need shop unless the gambling site it’s scam it’s self if not one just need to log into it and make their betting if you win you will be required to withdrawal directly to you account or your wallet it’s all depends on the available option.

The only place I have come across a similar incident is, where the LOTO agent those people that use to stand by the road side, someone came to place a bet with a large amount of money about 50k or more and the agent decided not to register the game he just printed a paper and give to the person and when the day for the game reach the man check and the numbers where just as predicted but when they log it into the system the booking number is no where to be found, and it was later confirm that they did not register the game and the agent squandered the money and such has been happening there without them noticing and this was notice because the last game played, the end of the issue is what I really don’t know how they concluded it.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

I don't know about any of this doesn't sound like a legit shop. Is this more like a bookie and not a physical shop? In the US not any shop can just set up. But yeah with bookie's and illegal gambling ypu are taking risk that you won't ever get paid out. There are plenty of legit ways to bet with little to no risk so not sure why anyone would bet this way anymore.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

How is this possible, that an agent took away a gambler's winning and ran away, how possible, is he with the tickets for the bet or what, what i know is that, he that has the tickets uses it to claim the winning, or maybe it's a local place and game that ticket was not issued than with the use of mouth, some people can be as weird as dupping others claiming that they should come the next day to claim their prize to find out that they have carted everything away.

Well, I have come to the conclusion that not everyone in this discussion understands what I am saying so far with all my explanations. Your question has been explained multiple times, but I think it is not everyone that sees it because I didn't include it in the main thread.

But I will explain again.

For example, you are an agent from a particular gambling industry, and I am the bettor that is looking for a gambling shop to bet a game with the little money that I have (I don't have a significant amount to fund on my betting account or don't have an account) and finally I visit your betting shop to stake a game and I went home with the betting slip, then at midnight the game played accordingly, so finally the bettor won the bet.

So, then, I would like to ask you a question and I would want you to answer me accordingly: if someone used your betting account to bet on a game, and the game was played at midnight, will the winning money not be fun in the betting account? Let's assume you finally ran away with the money the bettor won. Will you need the slip to withdraw the money from your betting account, or is it just for you to put your bank details and withdrawal straight to your account?

So I don't imagine that people still won't understand now.

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Quote from: a581aa on October 20, 2023, 03:56:52 PM

I disagree with your point of view, perhaps every place is different. From what I understand, offline agent gambling is usually more reliable than online gambling companies. If an agent runs away with the money, their superiors will be responsible for handling the funds. I have only heard of gamblers running away with the agent's money, never heard of agents running away with the gambler's money. Anything can happen in any situation, but I'm referring to the majority of cases. For amounts below $500,000 USD, Bet365 can still accept it, but I am still somewhat concerned about larger amounts. Withdrawals also take longer to process. Only offline accepts larger bets.

Okay, so how you would be able to explain about gamblers running away with agents money? Care to explain please. Undecided

I might have a wild guess here, I think gambler loaning an amount from a gambling agent and then run away never paying the loaned amount. That would be probably the case else there is no way a gambler can run away with an agent money.

Quote from: Oilacris on October 20, 2023, 04:05:38 PM

Just like on what others been saying that human beings are naturally greedy and on the time that they do able to hold an amount that they have never ever in their
lives that they do able to do so, then tendency or chances that those amount would really be ran away.

I agree, human interests and wants has no bound unless the person himself controls it.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

This is the more reason why I prefer betting on platforms that without the bet slip they may not be able to cash out the amount like nairabet if you don't come with your bet slip the money will just remain there and the agent can't have access to it.

I don't really encourage betting online as you may become easily addicted from time to time and your bank account will be at stake because immediately you exhaust the money you funded and you played a game and lost, you will still want to fund more through your banking apps and from there you might end up finishing the funds in your bank account.

So to avoid story that touches the heart just like this one it is advisable to bet on betting shops that without your slips they may not be able to cash out the winnings

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Quote from: a581aa on October 20, 2023, 03:56:52 PM

I disagree with your point of view, perhaps every place is different. From what I understand, offline agent gambling is usually more reliable than online gambling companies. If an agent runs away with the money, their superiors will be responsible for handling the funds. I have only heard of gamblers running away with the agent's money, never heard of agents running away with the gambler's money. Anything can happen in any situation, but I'm referring to the majority of cases. For amounts below $500,000 USD, Bet365 can still accept it, but I am still somewhat concerned about larger amounts. Withdrawals also take longer to process. Only offline accepts larger bets.

Okay, so how you would be able to explain about gamblers running away with agents money? Care to explain please. Undecided

We know that if on the time that we are really that making out some bets through agents and hit up big time then its up to you whether those winnings would be taken handle by that agent or you would really be claiming it for yourself on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be that too confident that the agent will really be bringing up those amounts until temptation do kicks in and this is where problems do really start.

Just like on what others been saying that human beings are naturally greedy and on the time that they do able to hold an amount that they have never ever in their
lives that they do able to do so, then tendency or chances that those amount would really be ran away.

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I disagree with your point of view, perhaps every place is different. From what I understand, offline agent gambling is usually more reliable than online gambling companies. If an agent runs away with the money, their superiors will be responsible for handling the funds. I have only heard of gamblers running away with the agent's money, never heard of agents running away with the gambler's money. Anything can happen in any situation, but I'm referring to the majority of cases. For amounts below $500,000 USD, Bet365 can still accept it, but I am still somewhat concerned about larger amounts. Withdrawals also take longer to process. Only offline accepts larger bets.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins,

If the betting shop has a manager and employees and an employee runs away with the money, the manager should be responsible for paying the money to the bettor since it's one of his employees who stole the money and it's not the fault of the bettor. But if the shop only has one agent and that agent runs away with the money, that becomes a problem because there will be no one left behind that can be asked for the money.

Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

An online platform is definitely better than a betting agent, especially if the betting agent isn't trusted and even if it's trusted, you can't really make very large bets with them because money can change anyone, so even a trusted person can deceive you and run away with the money if it's a significant amount.

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Quote from: Silberman on October 18, 2023, 04:53:34 PM

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

That is one disadvantage of using small betting shops where you can't assure that when you win a huge amount they will pay right away. But the scenario that you have told us is something usual these days as it also happens in our place as well. Not literally a scam thing because they also make payouts to those who win small but for financial reasons and family problems, they'll take the funds and leave.

Indeed, better not to use new betting sites especially when they involve 3rd parties as it is too risky.

Gamblers need to take into account all the possible consequences of their actions, if they are gambling just for the sake of fun and the amount they are using is very small then they can afford to gamble on those small shops, as even if they win the profits they will get will also be small, however if a person is gambling with a high amount of money in a game that could produce significant profits if they got lucky then they cannot gamble at such establishments, and instead they should only gamble at the most reputable casinos which will honor their obligations and pay them up in the case they win.

From what op explained I am not sure the problem of paying out the money is coming from the betting site/company but it's rather from a greedy bet shop owner who register as agent of the bet company as a channel through which in land gamblers can walk in and bet on their predictions. Some of these bet agents have given bad reputation to the bet sites they represent when the bat site has already paid in the won money into their ( the shop owner as agent) account immediately the bet win was confirmed so that can release the money to the appropriate winner but in their greed and scamming nature seeing how huge the money is they would choose to run away with the money. And this in turn cripples the repute of those bet sites they represent.

I have heard of these stories more often than one that's why I make sure to bet online if am using good amount to gamble with the expectation of winning a huge amount as returns just to avoid having my money at the mercy of betshop owners, except when am gambling for a small wins that doesn't make much sense to disappear with. Some of these bet shop owners are opportunists.

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Quote from: piebeyb on October 18, 2023, 01:22:21 AM

Yes, it is true that this can be done to chase the shop agent because it may be very easy to chase him compared to chasing an online casino that has gone bankrupt and is a fraud, therefore the most effective way is to report him so that he doesn't commit any fraud, but another problem is if you report the agent illegal gambling while you are in a country that prohibits gambling will be a problem and you will also be investigated as a gambler.

But if the gambling agent is in a country where gambling is legal, of course it is very easy to catch him and complain to the authorities, let alone take him to legal action, but it will be very different to report and chase the gambling agent if the country considers gambling to be an illegal game, that will be a problem. Another big thing you can do is just let it go and then use the experience of not playing at a gambling agent anymore and switching to online gambling. Wink

That's why we must avoid gambling in our country's illegal casinos. Law enforcement will investigate us because we have gambled in illicit casinos. Moreover, if gambling is prohibited in our country, this will make the problem more complicated and we may also experience serious problems because we have violated the regulations. But if we can gamble at a legal casino and we encounter a problem like that, we can easily report it to the authorities and with a report from the casino, the authorities will help us to solve the problem.

But if it is online gambling, we might be confused about where to complain, especially since we don't know where the casino is because everything is online. And if we report it to the authorities in our country, they may also find it difficult to follow up because it is outside their jurisdiction. We can avoid playing in shady or illegal casinos where we know nothing about the casino to avoid any problems.

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Quote from: Silberman on October 18, 2023, 04:53:34 PM

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

That is one disadvantage of using small betting shops where you can't assure that when you win a huge amount they will pay right away. But the scenario that you have told us is something usual these days as it also happens in our place as well. Not literally a scam thing because they also make payouts to those who win small but for financial reasons and family problems, they'll take the funds and leave.

Indeed, better not to use new betting sites especially when they involve 3rd parties as it is too risky.

Gamblers need to take into account all the possible consequences of their actions, if they are gambling just for the sake of fun and the amount they are using is very small then they can afford to gamble on those small shops, as even if they win the profits they will get will also be small, however if a person is gambling with a high amount of money in a game that could produce significant profits if they got lucky then they cannot gamble at such establishments, and instead they should only gamble at the most reputable casinos which will honor their obligations and pay them up in the case they win.

Just really that totally a common sense thing to be done on which you should really be sticking with main casino platforms if you are playing with high amounts or betting huge money instead on going into those agents.
Unless if they are really that known on paying up big or huge wins or having that good reputation on that particular area on which it would really be just that normal that you would really be that confident on dealing or trusting them up but it would really be that always depending on you because we know that there's always a risks for those funds to be ran away specially if its big or something significant. If you do have some trust issues then it would really be just that right that you should really be going into those main gambling platforms or companies rather than entrusting into those betting agents.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

How is this possible, that an agent took away a gambler's winning and ran away, how possible, is he with the tickets for the bet or what, what i know is that, he that has the tickets uses it to claim the winning, or maybe it's a local place and game that ticket was not issued than with the use of mouth, some people can be as weird as dupping others claiming that they should come the next day to claim their prize to find out that they have carted everything away.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

That is one disadvantage of using small betting shops where you can't assure that when you win a huge amount they will pay right away. But the scenario that you have told us is something usual these days as it also happens in our place as well. Not literally a scam thing because they also make payouts to those who win small but for financial reasons and family problems, they'll take the funds and leave.

Indeed, better not to use new betting sites especially when they involve 3rd parties as it is too risky.

Gamblers need to take into account all the possible consequences of their actions, if they are gambling just for the sake of fun and the amount they are using is very small then they can afford to gamble on those small shops, as even if they win the profits they will get will also be small, however if a person is gambling with a high amount of money in a game that could produce significant profits if they got lucky then they cannot gamble at such establishments, and instead they should only gamble at the most reputable casinos which will honor their obligations and pay them up in the case they win.

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What's giving You the conviction that an online gaming platform isn't planning to abscond with your funds? ain't they got human operators too??....
''Man's want is insatiable'' that's what we all say...and you think it's a joke? They could decide on whatever they want especially since your winnings is in Thier custody... I've heard about several cases where the casino desperately refuses to pay a customer's winnings on local casinos... That's what you get when you're too lucky..lol

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

That is one disadvantage of using small betting shops where you can't assure that when you win a huge amount they will pay right away. But the scenario that you have told us is something usual these days as it also happens in our place as well. Not literally a scam thing because they also make payouts to those who win small but for financial reasons and family problems, they'll take the funds and leave.

Indeed, better not to use new betting sites especially when they involve 3rd parties as it is too risky.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

What do you even mean the "gambling agent", he was someone employed within the betting shop and the betting shop magically disappeared between midnight and the morning? The story doesn't make sense. You seem to think that gamblers always have the favored outcome when it comes to betting and you are clearly wrong. These bookmakers don't sit around and survive for years by losing money, much the opposite in fact - they make a lot of money because they use odds with a comfortable buffer built in. Your "story" sounds like nonsense and you are projecting an idea that physical locations are somehow more likely to screw you over, but you clearly don't know how an online bookmaker can disappear in the blink of an eye.

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All the two have their advantages and disadvantages. And the physical betting hall is preferable because even the agent ran away with the money, you can still Sue the company branch because he didn't win the game from the agent but with the company. And if it is an online casino then it would have been very difficult for him to sue the company. Though in online betting when you win and you met all the requirements then your withdrawal is guaranteed.

Gambling is gambling and there is no best site in it but if we must take one site, offline site is more better because of the physical identify of and there is no KYC because you're already there.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

I wouldn't completely agree with you on the perspective of gambling on sites to be safer because there are sites that could be scam sites who attracts amateur gamblers to gamble on their site with their bonuses and when they win they are referred to doing their KYC which they never get to pass and their money will be gone, which is also similar as this in this shop too.

The case is one which if follows up rightly he can possibly recover his funds provided he still have a printed copy of his bet slip at hand , he could go lay a complain at the head office of the bet site, stating what an agent has done to him, I'm sure there are regulatory bodies in your country of residency, he could possibly reach out to them and that agent could be fished out and hi funds recoverd, offline or online, neither is safer just make sure to be careful out there.

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