Topic: An agent is no where to be found. - page 3. (Read 973 times)

You know that money really brings different things to people. It's not bad to want money because people really need it. But once we let greed enter our thoughts, that's when we start doing things that will end up being bad in the end.

In short, the agent who ran away with the money of the gambler who won was tempted to steal and not give the gambler's winnings because maybe at that time he might need money, or maybe he couldn't accept that he lost the gambler. .  But you have a point in what you said that there is also the truth that online gambling is really safer when it comes to the thing you mentioned.

I see this discussion as an interesting one. Every gambler has their favorites, some like gambling online, while some prefer the local betting shops around their areas. It is not because those gamblers who gamble at the local betting shops are illiterate or don't know anything about the internet, but it is because they feel happy gambling in the midst of other gamblers.

Like some of you guys said that gambling is for fun, so some gamblers like having fun together with others. They don't like gambling alone. Some of these gamblers go to the film hall to watch a live match but they have a television and a channel that still shows the same live matches. I observed that what they enjoy there is just the discussion and the arguments, and the same for those who like the local betting shops.

There's should be a company behind that agent so provably the winner can directly go with them to claim his winnings. But if the agent claim the amount for reason that he will be the one to distribute the winning prize to the winner then maybe he cannot get anything especially if the agent already flee away. Maybe he can still go after to the company but I guess there's low chance that they release new money and the only help they can do is to post a notice about their personnel and file legal complains toward the action he or she do. Its also important for us to know the reputation of agents and check if there's a rule that they can directly take the money since if that is the case another incident might happen again so its should be the winner should go direct to the company behind those agents to get his winnings and be safe for same unfortunate incident.

If you have seen where fight breaks out in a gambling den before you will never feel safe gambling in one, apart from the worker running away its possible for some hoodlums to come and attack the location due to one reason or the other, where I am from there are many arrests on hidden gambling locations and I can't help but ask why people are so interested in such places for gambling.

I believe this worker was able to run away with the money because it's a small amount, meaning he is with the cash, but if it's a big amount the gambling company will have to make transfer because at this point cash is useless and risky, but all the same a gambling den is not a safe place for gambling.

This way is already old because we have internet now, you can gamble in your home and this brings peace of mind and also concentration, if you win there will be on single evil eye on you, and if you lose you summon your courage, still never use what you aren't willing to lose at all.

If an employee of the casino/gambling shop runs away with customers' winnings then the casino is responsible for that money and they have to pay it no matter whether they confiscate the stolen money or not.

It's a rare occurrence in an organized casino so if you are someone who wants to experience physical gambling then pick the right place for it but with the evolution of online gambling, the availability is abundant for users to pick.

Sure we may be on same page, but what would you have to say about gambling shops in campuses? where students go out in numbers to stake games. Despite being aware of the online games. In the society, they're places filled with less educated people and vice versa. So, you may be referring to the environment you found yourself. I think the gambling agents pay immediately compared to playing with the platform directly online. The withdrawal processes and all, could be the reason why most players still prefer to use or stake game in gambling shops. Circling the majority of such gamblers as less educated isn't correct. Unless you mean less educated about online gambling. It may be easy to accept. Most of the educated people, read and write. Yet it doesn't mean they'll be able to do some things by themselves. It's safe to think that any educated person can gamble online. If no one introduce them to it, they may not have the idea. Some before they began gambling online. It'll look impossible to gamble without the gambling shops. Because they don't know it or haven't practiced it. Until a friend show them how the online gambling work. And how many working days it'll take for withdrawal to reflect on his bank account. Maybe not everyone would be able to wait for the processes, as patience has nothing to do with being educated or not. However, anyways, the disadvantage of not being able to wait for the processes, still follows as the example in this thread.

I know this is a very sad story but unfortunately these cases of theft in gambling are cases that happen very frequently, just see that there are many online casinos that stole a lot of money from and see that sports betting sites also stole money from people, but in the case of physical casinos things are different, and it is very difficult to hear that any physical casino has disappeared with people's money, which is why I would recommend that anyone who wants to play a gambling, then look for a physical casino that is located in his city

because with this he guarantees that no money will be stolen, if he plays he will have 2 ends: the first would be to lose everything in the casino during the gambling session; the second would be for him to win and walk away with money. but it will not be stolen. It is dangerous to play in stores or in places other than inside the physical casino, the risk of being robbed by the store owner or by thieves outside the store is a very big risk

Agent of betting site also have guarantors so he is really dump if this story is to be the real issue. Gambling house that wants to employ an agent will go as far as doing KYC on the agent and involve  a guarantor of high repute that won't just be one, it might get to two or three guarantors, so I don't see how a customer will lose his potential winning without getting it back because an agent ran off with it. I'm sure he can only run but the company will surely get hold of him.

I have not also heard about case like this before, but I am very sure case like this are possible. Some people can do crazy things just to make money. The agent is kind of dump, because I am sure he won't be able to run forever. If the agent is reported to the gambling site, then his account can be temporarily suspended, and he won't be able to withdraw the money that he is even trying to run away with. But maybe he will withdraw all his money from the gambling site so that if his account is blocked, then they won't discover any amount in the account. I know he won't be able to run forever, it might take time, but he will be exposed. If the gambling site is held responsible, then they will look for every means to provide the agent.

This is where the problem with centralised gambling or casino starts from. It is still same as you winning online and the casino suddenly shots down and nowhere to be found with your wins nor your deposit. It is likewise you winning and the casino refuses to pay your win citing irregularities and discrepancies with your game which therefore denies you the opportunity to make claims of your win.

Decentralisation is absolutely the best. You win, you withdraw. No body denies or steal your rewards from you unlike what OP has just said here. I really do not think that agent would be seen anywhere near that environment again because that act was a preplanned act and I must say that he or she has no conscience to have done that.

I am seeing the agent thingy these days on social media that they have their respective casinos that they're working with and partnered with. There's nothing wrong with that if there's really a physical shop but based on that story, that's the cons of it when you're betting on those. That's why if you already know a casino which is online and you don't need to go through with an agent or third party then that's much better because you're direct to bet with your money on them. There's no need for you to think if the casino will runaway with your money because they're an actual business that won't definitely ruin their reputation just for your bets.

It seems that there is some confusion and conflict with what you say about gambling traditionally and gambling online. But I do understand that when other people think about which is the best thing for them as they gamble. The here today is, go to the gambling place whether they're online or offline that you trust and not just that, but the one that you know that has its reputation to protect.

It's not interesting to gamble with the traditional model in a hidden place like that because things like fights can happen due to misunderstandings.
Gambling like that can also get bad views from neighbors because of the habits we do.
Gambling online is more interesting because no one else knows and it can be done anywhere there is an internet connection.

I don't recommend gambling online because the negative impacts it can have will be difficult to control.
You can gamble online or traditionally, but you have to be responsible.

Never heard before running away with betting money. It can happen which is not impossible. Because we often get news of various types of gambling scams. But most of those scams happen online but never worried about a betting agent running away with the bet money while the gambler was staying at that moment. May be a gambler has won a large amount of money, the agent may behave in such a way as to refuse to pay that amount. My point is that since he was gambling by renting an agent shop, he could certainly get all his personal information if he wanted. But all these works are time consuming. A gambler never wants to be in such a situation. A gambler must consider these aspects before gambling. Gambling  should be taken by observing the reliability on the place where he is gambling.

Well, the point to take home is that gamblers that don't have an online betting account should be very picky when it comes to where they place their bets. I've come across something like this few years ago in a newspaper. The story you just shared could only happened in a small betting shop, because in mega shops, the rent alone is in millions of naira and there's no way something like this could happen.

Big wins are not paid by physical cash, it is normally paid into the gambler's bank account by the agent. If a worker ever runs away with a gambler's win, know that it's a small amount and the agent must repay the money.

The same case has happened in my locality before. The way it was followed up was to report the matter to the betting company that the agent registered under to be their betting agent. From there, the details concerning the agent man were released by the betting company and he was arrested thereafter because of the information that was gotten about him.

I think the man who won the money should report the matter to the betting company. Telling them how a betting agent working under as their agent ran away with the money he won. They need to provide his details so that he can be traced and arrested upon for running away with someone else money

But in this regard I still prefer an offline gambling house to"attempts" to run away with my winning than online casino because offline gambling house will be easier to trace and catch since they are physically present and at the reach of customers, at least one customer would know someone connected to such agent. When you are scammed by a casino, is as good as gone, that is the simple truth with the experience here so far. However it is better to choose from trusted operators both offline and online.

Online or actual gambling it’s still the same if you are using a crappy services. There’s still a lot of legit betting shop that can handle huge amount of bets without any sign of running away for a long time. They can have a consistent profit by just serving properly to its customers while running away will ruin his reputation plus jail time since he will surely be reported to the authorities.

Same with online casino, there’s some online casino that freeze or turn to scam with the players money. It’s important to choose reputable and trusted services to get safe betting.

The agent will be caught I believe because he built the business and people do recognize him and his staff, incase he has any.
The story OP told is no different from what you highlighted that happens even on online casinos. Worse is one may not be able to hold anyone or even afford to visit the location of the online casinos building. It's still a loss.

The only thing left is for individual gamblers, whether online or offline, should be vigilant enough to know a phony casino business or a bet shop business. Use a registered business for gambling of any sort, because the identity of the owners will be clear and easily trackable.

Well I believe we are almost saying the same thing depending on how you understood my earlier opinion. Also it depends on the jurisdiction that you are referring to and how gambling is operated there. The word agent as it is used in my locality regards to gambling is the outlet of a gambling company through which bettors bet and collect their winning if they have winning by proof from their slip and they are licensed by that gambling company to carry their name and logo to operate meaning even if the person that operates the franchise (runs away so to speak), he would be traced by the mother gambling company.

Except in terms of avoiding delay in payment, you can go bet in a bigger outlet agent where you know he is credible, reputable and fast in payment without stories.

Agreed that some agents delay in payment or are unscrupulous, what gamblers do is to avoid playing with them to avoid such stories if there have been traces of delay in payment.

What has happened in the story is the equivalent of an online casino requesting for kyc documents when you apply to withdraw your phone's after winning or an online casino closing your account without giving you fair hearing based on some suspicion after you had one money. I see no difference at all.

It is sad that the agent ran away with the money but he can only run so far. With proper investigations he will be caught. In the meantime I hope the bet shop pays the Gambler his money and not give him any excuse for not doing so. It is no fault of his.