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Quote from: piebeyb on October 18, 2023, 01:22:21 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 18, 2023, 12:03:58 AM

This means that it requires attention from these people so that they immediately make the right decision in choosing the shop. And for the shop agent who ran away, maybe the shop needs to contact the authorities so that the shop agent can be chased. After all, the shop agent had caused harm to the shop so he needed to be arrested.

Yes, it is true that this can be done to chase the shop agent because it may be very easy to chase him compared to chasing an online casino that has gone bankrupt and is a fraud, therefore the most effective way is to report him so that he doesn't commit any fraud, but another problem is if you report the agent illegal gambling while you are in a country that prohibits gambling will be a problem and you will also be investigated as a gambler.

But if the gambling agent is in a country where gambling is legal, of course it is very easy to catch him and complain to the authorities, let alone take him to legal action, but it will be very different to report and chase the gambling agent if the country considers gambling to be an illegal game, that will be a problem. Another big thing you can do is just let it go and then use the experience of not playing at a gambling agent anymore and switching to online gambling. Wink

If a shady gambling agent has hurt you, you'll want to get even again. However, it is uncommon to want to report a shady agent in a place where you could be charged with gambling. You want to shout from the roofs but are afraid you'll fall. If the agent is in a place where gambling is allowed, its almost a given that they should be brought to the attention of the law. Still, the unclear rules in places where gaming is not allowed make things difficult.

You could also just leave, learn from the experience, and focus your efforts on online sites, which has its benefits. For better or worse, its a shift. Giving yourself back the power is like saying, "I've learned, and Im adapting." Still, always, always make sure that websites you use are trustworthy. We dont want history repeating, do we?

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

This is only a case that may occur very rarely, just like when talking about online casinos, although many are trusted, there are also those whose initial intention was to deceive and will disappear when they have achieved what they were targeting, and there are even online casinos that are quite well known the name often appears in many sporting events but in this forum that casino is known for having many unresolved allegations.
Betting shops may still be safer because they have a physical form where the owner is very likely to return to that place, meaning he cannot just disappear, it's just that the betting shop also has a license? so that its presence cannot be done wild because there are laws that regulate it so that players have legal certainty. when there is a betting shop that cheats.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

it is always safer to Bet in Bigger agency that the management will take over if something like this happened .
but for sure that agent will be taken since being wanted will not last forever , he may hide for a while but sooner will be in captivity .

but the goof thing here is that you are not the one who turns a victim because that will sadden us to hear.

may I ask if how long this kind of gambling happening or operating near you? because ot seems that the worker did not managed to handle His desire in taking the win or its just too big to resist of him?

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 18, 2023, 12:03:58 AM

This means that it requires attention from these people so that they immediately make the right decision in choosing the shop. And for the shop agent who ran away, maybe the shop needs to contact the authorities so that the shop agent can be chased. After all, the shop agent had caused harm to the shop so he needed to be arrested.

Yes, it is true that this can be done to chase the shop agent because it may be very easy to chase him compared to chasing an online casino that has gone bankrupt and is a fraud, therefore the most effective way is to report him so that he doesn't commit any fraud, but another problem is if you report the agent illegal gambling while you are in a country that prohibits gambling will be a problem and you will also be investigated as a gambler.

But if the gambling agent is in a country where gambling is legal, of course it is very easy to catch him and complain to the authorities, let alone take him to legal action, but it will be very different to report and chase the gambling agent if the country considers gambling to be an illegal game, that will be a problem. Another big thing you can do is just let it go and then use the experience of not playing at a gambling agent anymore and switching to online gambling. Wink

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

- Scammers can come from anywhere and vanish with your money. Even with reputable gambling websites, there's no absolute assurance that they won't pull a scam someday. That's why it's crucial to practice risk management and minimize your exposure to risk as much as possible.
- Your story reminds me of what happened with FTX exchange and Sam Bankman-Fried in the cryptocurrency market in 2022. We all recall how he cultivated a trustworthy image for himself and the U.S. government before everything unraveled. It was unimaginable that he could do something like that. Even when rumors started circulating that FTX exchange had misappropriated users' funds, there were many defenders. In the end, it's a lesson to trust no one or any organization completely. It emphasizes the importance of self-managing your assets and risks.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 17, 2023, 08:44:24 PM

Even in a country where gambling is legal, illegal gambling is still rampant. And for many reasons like the minimum bet is much smaller, the winning prize is higher, hassle-free, etc.

I think if the shop is legal and the prize is not released because the agent assigned to give the money took it away like in the story shared by OP, the shop is still obliged to pay the winner. It's not the fault of the winner that the shop's agent run away with the money.

So people have to look and choose legal shops rather than illegal shops so that they don't get into trouble if the shop agent runs away or other problems. Those who often gamble in illegal gambling should think long and hard about not gambling in illegal shops anymore because of cases like that, especially if there are already several people who have experienced cases.

This means that it requires attention from these people so that they immediately make the right decision in choosing the shop. And for the shop agent who ran away, maybe the shop needs to contact the authorities so that the shop agent can be chased. After all, the shop agent had caused harm to the shop so he needed to be arrested.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 16, 2023, 09:30:36 PM

This usually happens if you are betting in a shop that is illegal. You cannot go to the authorities because in the first place you are involved in illegal gambling. If something like this is done by a licensed gambling shop, I think the shop is under obligation to pay the winner and report and hope that the authorities will find the manager and seize the stolen money.

It all depends on how much winning money the gambler gets because even though the gambling shop is licensed if the winnings are very large there is still possibility that the agent will run away with the gambler winning money because with this money he can go far away and not be tracked so he can start living in other countries without anyone knowing.
We know that whether gambling shop is licensed or not if it commits acts of fraud and embezzlement if country has strict laws the agent will still have to deal with the law and the authorities, but does anyone know where he will go?
That why it better to gamble at an online casino that is really big and popular and even has good reputation because it has customers and large community which makes the casino always pay out every gambler winnings.

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Although an online gambling site with reputation is much better, stealing might not be completely avoided. There have been issues of online gambling sites not paying their players. Either they suddenly vanish or they cite reasons for it.

No, because it all depends on which online gambling site you use.
Not all online gambling sites have the potential to commit crimes against customers because they are in business and it is impossible to damage long-term business just by stealing some of the customer winnings.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

It's funny how the story is comprehended because why would someone that's lack integrity and honest qualities open up a betting center for gamblers to enter and gamble and run away with hugh winnings of gamblers? These matters keep arising and its definitely getting out of hand. Trusting a human with our heavy wins, ofcourse is risky because in most scenarios these gambling agents have not seen such huge figures before and happening to see it for the first time will definitely push them to the wrong state of mind, they tend to run away with these winnings to better their own lives.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 17, 2023, 07:27:28 AM

Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

I think this is an isolated case only mate as what others posted above. Physical betting shop are very profitable in our country and i think elsewhere so what's the reason of running away someone's winning, it's not practical to run away with a penny and leave the millions behind. Though online gambling site provide users some convenience when it comes to gambling it also the reason why some people go broke as gambling is just a click away and without discipline, all things will go wrong.

This kind of work is really rare. Because the house is always in profit. No one trades at a loss. Moreover, since they have started physical business, if there are no legal complications, they will definitely not try to escape. I don't know if there is any other reason or not so it remains a confusion. But those who are gamblers should understand that the foundation of the organization was not good if such a situation arises. Gambling at a new or unfamiliar company is likely to lead to losses. But physically I could not hear any such incident. Gamblers must always exercise caution. Scammers are constantly creating new scams strategy so always be careful when gambling.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

He wont really be ending up on such situation if he had really just simply show his ticket into gambling manager and wont really be that entrusting up those winnings or claims on the betting agent.
Temptation because of money is really that very common to happen which to those agents would really be having the tendency that they would really be running with the money on which they havent really been able to get a hold for the rest of their lives on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be having those thoughts on running it away and as a winner then you cant really be so sure if those winning amounts would really be given into you. This is why it would really be always better that you should really be wise on how to get your winnings. Never ever make yourself do trust up someone when it comes to this
because risks something like this could really happen along the way.

For lottery winners then the ticket holder would really be the ones who would personally be claiming up his prize and as long you do have it then you are the true winner and doesnt really pass into those agents.
One of the risks when you do really trust up someone too much when it comes to money where temptation would really be there.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 17, 2023, 01:25:48 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 16, 2023, 09:30:36 PM

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People often use illegal shops if gambling is prohibited in their country but they still want to gamble. This will put them in trouble, especially those who use a lot of money. They can't ask for compensation in their shop because when everything happens, the shop will also disappear and you can't ask for compensation. That's why if in your country gambling is prohibited, you don't need to try gambling or use illegal gambling shops or anything else because that will only give you problems. It's better not to gamble at all than to get into trouble.

But if the shop is legal, you may still be able to ask for compensation from the shop because the shop collaborates with third parties, where the shop must also be responsible for the people who have used its services. But usually, the shop doesn't want to pay compensation because the shop also experiences the same losses people experience. We must prevent this loss by always ensuring the shop is legal. And if necessary, we can use trusted online casinos to gamble so we won't experience any problems.

Even in a country where gambling is legal, illegal gambling is still rampant. And for many reasons like the minimum bet is much smaller, the winning prize is higher, hassle-free, etc.

I think if the shop is legal and the prize is not released because the agent assigned to give the money took it away like in the story shared by OP, the shop is still obliged to pay the winner. It's not the fault of the winner that the shop's agent run away with the money.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 17, 2023, 04:51:40 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 16, 2023, 09:30:36 PM

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That's what I'm saying, there could be online gambling sites as well that can pull through this kind of scams. Not even gambling sites though, recently we have some mixers as well. So it could happen to any services, but here in our community, we know what gambling sites are trusted already and so we should stay with them.

You mean the bitcointalk community? Have you not heard of a case of a mixer or a gambling site that turned as scam here? It happened. So there's still no guarantee.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

I think this is an isolated case only mate as what others posted above. Physical betting shop are very profitable in our country and i think elsewhere so what's the reason of running away someone's winning, it's not practical to run away with a penny and leave the millions behind. Though online gambling site provide users some convenience when it comes to gambling it also the reason why some people go broke as gambling is just a click away and without discipline, all things will go wrong.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

It's so unfortunate that this happened to the man who's just playing and testing his luck. It's unfair that when you are playing your heart's out and eventually you landed on jackpot, the agent will runaway with your money. For sure he felt frustrated and cheated on, and it's totally understandable because if I were in his shoes, I'd totally feel the same.

If this betting shop is legally registered and has permission to operate, for sure there will be documents that will tell the identity of the agent who ran away with the money and there will be details that can pinpoint the agent's whereabouts. In this case, the victim could file a case for being scammed. However, if the business is not legally operating, meaning no registration and not really allowed to have a runnimg operation, it will be hard to file a case and find the agent who vanished through thin air.

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While there are disadvantages, I can also cite some benefits when betting in shops. First, your betting experience will not be tracked. So no matter how much you lose or how high your profits are, you will never worry to wager continuously because your betting results are not monitored. Second, you will get immediately your winning profits. And lastly, you will find time to communicate face to face with other bettors and on the probability of their winning rate.

It’s just that in the scenario that you cited OP, the betting agent was dazzled by the value of money. Maybe he was really in bad financial situation that’s why he was forced to do such crime like that. But in some betting shops I know, they are actually serving their best customer service and pay the winning amount without hassles. But as a piece of advice, before you decide to bet in that certain shop, maybe you should make initial research on that betting shop especially if you are fond betting high amount.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 16, 2023, 09:30:36 PM

This usually happens if you are betting in a shop that is illegal. You cannot go to the authorities because in the first place you are involved in illegal gambling. If something like this is done by a licensed gambling shop, I think the shop is under obligation to pay the winner and report and hope that the authorities will find the manager and seize the stolen money.

Yes, I think this is the case here, the gambling den is illegal and you don't know who this people are. So if you bet on them and suddenly win big, chances are they are not going to pay you. Or at least not willing to do so, just like in some scam accusations on a online crypto sites as well. We can deposit without KYC, and when you win big, they will have to question you.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 16, 2023, 09:30:36 PM

Although an online gambling site with reputation is much better, stealing might not be completely avoided. There have been issues of online gambling sites not paying their players. Either they suddenly vanish or they cite reasons for it.

That's what I'm saying, there could be online gambling sites as well that can pull through this kind of scams. Not even gambling sites though, recently we have some mixers as well. So it could happen to any services, but here in our community, we know what gambling sites are trusted already and so we should stay with them.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

Even if they do this once they will easily lose customers and bettors, betting shops thrive on reputation besides they operate based on their license that's the easiest way to lose their license and everything that makes them legal, their obligation is to honor every bettor's right bets failure to do will incur penalties from their license and business permit.
There's corruption in your locality if winners cannot get their winnings from their betting station, It is unlikely to happen here in our country as long as you have the winning ticket the betting station has an obligation to pay you even if it's a big amount, the bettor can charge them because there is a fine and criminal liability in committing fraud.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 16, 2023, 09:30:36 PM

This usually happens if you are betting in a shop that is illegal. You cannot go to the authorities because in the first place you are involved in illegal gambling. If something like this is done by a licensed gambling shop, I think the shop is under obligation to pay the winner and report and hope that the authorities will find the manager and seize the stolen money.

Although an online gambling site with reputation is much better, stealing might not be completely avoided. There have been issues of online gambling sites not paying their players. Either they suddenly vanish or they cite reasons for it.

People often use illegal shops if gambling is prohibited in their country but they still want to gamble. This will put them in trouble, especially those who use a lot of money. They can't ask for compensation in their shop because when everything happens, the shop will also disappear and you can't ask for compensation. That's why if in your country gambling is prohibited, you don't need to try gambling or use illegal gambling shops or anything else because that will only give you problems. It's better not to gamble at all than to get into trouble.

But if the shop is legal, you may still be able to ask for compensation from the shop because the shop collaborates with third parties, where the shop must also be responsible for the people who have used its services. But usually, the shop doesn't want to pay compensation because the shop also experiences the same losses people experience. We must prevent this loss by always ensuring the shop is legal. And if necessary, we can use trusted online casinos to gamble so we won't experience any problems.

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This usually happens if you are betting in a shop that is illegal. You cannot go to the authorities because in the first place you are involved in illegal gambling. If something like this is done by a licensed gambling shop, I think the shop is under obligation to pay the winner and report and hope that the authorities will find the manager and seize the stolen money.

Although an online gambling site with reputation is much better, stealing might not be completely avoided. There have been issues of online gambling sites not paying their players. Either they suddenly vanish or they cite reasons for it.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

This thing can happen even in an online gambling shop. Even some online casinos are not giving money won by a player if it is too big. In short, the scam can happen anytime. We have some casinos in this forum that were once reputable but turned rouge and scammed their player. It does not only happen on one occasion but on several occasions.

So playing in local agent's gambling shops and playing in an online casino does not make a difference. If the owner decides to run with the money they will run with the money so just prepare for the worst every time we win a huge amount of money and get complacent if we already withdrawn the amount.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 14, 2023, 03:16:02 PM

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However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

I humbly submit that I do not understand the need to gamble with a betting agent.

I mean, you are just increasing your risks further if you plan on adding a betting agent on top of it. Gambling is already risky on itself due to the circumstances present. If you were to hire a betting agent, then you still have to worry about their authenticity and genuineness of service which adds another layer of risk on your part.

If someone wants to gamble and thinks of getting a betting agent, just do not do it. Gamble it with yourself OR just save your money in the process. If you gamble by using a betting agent, expect things to happen like what the story of OP told us.

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