Topic: An agent is no where to be found. - page 4. (Read 637 times)

If you are playing in a shop that pays right away, or some games that don't require days to get the result, if you play games like that or plus bet on that kind of games then a physical shop is much reliable than online betting platforms. Don't get me wrong, the reputable online gambling platforms do provide you with security, but anything could happen to it at any time. And that being an online platform, you can't do much about it.
Each and every platform either it is online or physical gambling platform will always carry a risk. It is up to us to find the right game and to gamble. If you take this into consideration, then I guess physical gambling places are better in a way. But as I said they both carries risk so we need to keep that in mind and gamble cautiously in every platform.

That is a really rare case as even in my time the gambling companies who were represented by betting agents were very correct in paying every winning person as they had enough balance.I don't know where you live but bad people like this agent exist everywhere in the world and it is unfortunate that such person were the one where the gambler placed his winning bet.

Nevertheless nowadays who the hell gambles in gambling shops physically when online you have everything and they can fulfill any gamblers desire or requirement so I don't see any real reason as why people should continue to gamble in physical gambling shops,there is absolutely no reason except nostalgia ones.

This is one the terrible occasions a gambler can face. I think its up to legality of that business. In developed countries you can easily bring issue to court and freeze accounts of gambling agent until they pay. But you definitely need to have very legal proof. It is best to get professional help in such issues as you may need to recover big amount of money and money you pay to lawyer can be very minor compared to it. I still feel like its best sticking to online gambling cause you will have dozens of legit proofs in such issues...

it is hard to really trust people these days and the annoying part is that it will be very difficult to actually track him where you even start from there is no way he is getting that money back, it has happened, it is better to stay with reputable online betting sites I see someone talking about online gambling sites can withhold your money but I depend because if it is a reputable site they will not go into something that will affect there reputation and you can even sue the company directly I still prefer online gambling sites than putting my trust in gambling agents that can move with your money any day anytime. I noticed that once you have a win the gambling agent will start looking for means to get money from you,

What about the polices or judges get bribed by the agents? there's also a possibility like that and the victim report will not be processed except there's a pressure from public or "big people". I think if we're just an Average Joe and not really understand with law, it's better to not associated with the court because there's also a chance we will become a perpetrator if we don't have a solid proof to back up our report.

So, when you get scammed, its better to learn from your mistake and move on.

How much was the money he won that it seemed like the agent found worth running?
If it's worth more than $1M then the agent does have plans to disappear for good and live somewhere in Belize. Such a case where a lucky day turned into a nightmare.

I would probably let is slide if it happened to me if this is just a random case but if it happens twice or multiple times already I would already suspect the whole gambling house is ruled by a mob that targets a nobody who has no one else to turn to.

It seems you are getting it all wrong, however, a betting agent is a person (or company) who makes betting easy for you, by betting on your behalf., what I get from this is that an agent is a person who have an online gambling account that people pay there money to the agent for them to bet on a game and if they win, then the agent will withdraw the person's winning from the betting account and give to the bettor who won, and the agent get paid directly from the betting company directly, so I do say that it is easy for an agent to run away with bettors money if they really want to.

Talking about if the agent shop is licensed, as long as the betting company is licensed, I don't think that those betting shops are license too. Some of these agent shops just get registered under the betting company name. That's all, so even if an Agent run, you can't do anything unless the agent is caught red-handed.
The company pays the winnings directly to the agents' account, and it is only the agent that can withdraw and give it to the winner. That's all. It is just like someone or people using your betting account to bet on a game, and you alone have full access to the betting account. That's just it.

I'm yet to hear this kind of story and to me it is difficult to accept that in all good health and verification that the bettor won his bet then the agent or worker, or manager would run away with the potential winning, like how is that possible to happen if the gambling house is registered in the country gaming board or whatever agency that issues license and accredited it to operate.

In the first place, if the manager runs away with the winning, is he also closing his business or don't he have family?

Anyway, it is a lesson not to release your betting slip because that is even the first line of proof you have but I still don't believe agent or manager would run away without trace. And moreover, gambling houses have umbrella body despite how many sublets they have operating, so with your betting slip you can proof or confirm your winning because they already know someone won a bet from their system.

Honestly, I don't know where you live, or what the background of the gambling shop agent is. because, in each country it is definitely different. However, you should first make a habit of checking whether the shop agent has been validated and clearly proven to have a guarantee for each of its customers. Or, we should check out an online casino.
This is important, because problems like the ones you describe could happen to anyone if they don't get used to checking the legitimacy of the shop or casino in question. Or it could be, if the shop agent is naughty and takes away the winnings of one of his customers. ideally, someone has won a big enough win, so the shop agent runs away. or, the shop is illegal and does not have large funds to pay out its customers' big winnings. The point is, there are many factors that cause cases like this to occur.

Well, referring to what you said, actually not all gambling shops do things like in the case you described in this thread. However, because now it is easier for us with online casinos and those we have in the community. Obviously, the main choice is to choose something that we are very familiar with. although, there will always be the potential for obstacles. however, because the casinos we have in the community are worthy of trust. The main choice instead of going to a gambling shop, it is more ideal to choose a crypto casino which is our favorite.

In which country have you seen this issue?
I mean, in most if not all, western countries its pretty obvious place bets only in reputable bookmakers....
But I have never heard something like this also because agents are earning from bets of people.
It they ran away with only one win (unless Is a six figures) mmmm thats not a profitable business
It could be possible It was Just a scammer/fake agente?

This is easier said than done. Scammers and fake agents are now smart and are most probably using fake identities in order to perpetuate their scams. I wouldn't be confident in taking these crooks into justice without learning of their ways first and how they really operate. It's always a nice habit to know who you are giving your money to, in this instance it's a gambling shop. Get to know the people around you, dig some information and keep your mouth shut that you know these things so if worse comes to worst, you have something that you can use against them and report them to the right authorities.

@rachael9385, for me it's not an oddity, we often find agents like that in illegal gambling shops, generally occurs in lottery betting, sports are also targeted by related illegal agents.

However, not all agents act dishonestly in betting, there are also those who are honest, they stick to their commitments and are responsible for all winnings, of course, as you said, there are also quite a few agents who take the money and run.

I have seen several cases of agents running away, most of them were reported to the authorities, if you are one of their victims/agents, just report it to the authorities for embezzling money and opening an illegal gambling shop, so that the agent will be arrested and brought to justice.

Well, I will say that you left me no choice. But to agree with you on one hand, yes, even the online gambling site can go with gamblers' money, but I do say it is still a bit safer than the offline shops.

The reason why I have to agree with you is because I have noticed that there is nothing that can not be compromised, just like the case of SBF which almost everybody knows about how it all happened, so if an exchange can short down with people money, so what more for gamble.
However, even some of the local betting shops are reputable and safe for gambling fans, such as some online gambling sites.

This experience is painful because the gambler has been losing bets before and now he is been denied his clear win. The gambler should report the issue to the zonal or headquarters of the gambling company, maybe they might help in tracking the betting agent. And he should be made to face the wrath of the law if he is finally arrested this will serve as a lesson to others.

There are many people who will always prefer physical gambling to betting online and they have genuine reasons for that. One of the reasons is that many of them are not literate so they will always the the assistance of physical attendants to place their bets. Some are not also computer or internet literate which means in-house gambling will be their best choice. I have seen people who claim that it is easier to track or trace physical casinos than online gambling house that has no physical presence. They assume that it will be easier for an online casino to pull an exit scam because it cannot be easily tracked or sued.  

I have no idea if its the same, but it's possible that the agent is not an employee of the betting shop like in our country. Some agents assist the gamblers to bet, they will be the one to collect and submit the bets one by one. They only ask for a commission if they win. Because if it is an employee of the betting shop, then the man would already talk to the owner already and be able to find that agent.

The information provided by OP is not actually complete, but if the agent is an actual employee, the owner is also responsible for what happened. They are liable to cooperate with the man who won and should give every information they know.

You don't need to relate to what actually happened based on what the OP shared. The fact that an agent is involved, they could be blamed for mishandling money, and yet the shop could continue to operate. It's easy for them to blame one of our agents for fraudulent activity. You can sue the agent, but the shop might keep going. They can come up with excuses and not necessarily take measures to prevent it from happening again.

Now, let's compare this with a gambling site. Say you're gambling on a reputable and popular one. If they don't pay your winnings, you can always make a scam accusation against their them. Since you'd get people's attention, both gamblers and potential gamblers, it could damage their reputation significantly. Regardless of the amount of money you complain about, the damage is substantial because you're attacking their reputation in the process.

Think about it this way: you could accuse them of stealing your $100, but if they're a major gambling site, they might lose $1 million due to your proven scam accusation. So, I think they wouldn't want that to happen in the first place because it would mean hurting their business. In the event they scam, it wouldn't be for one person only; they'd most likely be looking to pull an exit scam.

Sometimes I even prefer betting in a physical shop that I know is legit and the shop is under a legal betting company. This case is very simple: if the guy in question has his betting slip intact, then there is nothing to be worried about here.
 
All the man has to do is look for another agent that can take him to the head office or locate one by himself, then go there with the proof of the game that he won, and the slip in his hand will be checked to see if the game was truly won or not, and if it was won, then the company will pay him.

If it happens that the owner of the shop has already credited that winning to his agent account, then the man will have to leave the case with the company as they have solid information about the agent (shop owner) and they can easily locate him. In such a case, there is a possibility that the person will receive back the already-wined amount.

If the betting shop has a license the license can be revoked including the business permit, the manager is obligated to pay the winner even if the gambling agent runs away with the money, he owns the shop and it is part of his obligation on the license and permit is to pay the winners regardless of the situation.

There are advantages and disadvantages to playing online and offline, and it is to your own advantage to always play with a license and with a good reputation online and offline, however, you have a better chance offline because the casino is bound by the laws to protect their citizen and you are one of the citizens that your government will protect against scam offline casinos.

I think betting agents only exist on land not for online gambling because in online gambling of course every gambler bets on the betting options provided by the casino and almost all gamblers use large trusted casinos with very good reputations so whatever winnings they get it impossible for the casino to don't pay it because it can damage the reputation and there is chance that the casino will experience bad things such as customers leaving without anyone wanting to return to deposit money there.

Talking about what the OP said here it actually happens lot in any country even in the area where I live which is an area where there are quite lot of gamblers there are still often several cases where the betting agent runs away when the gambler wins large and the agent bets here are usually called mines.
This is profitable business because many older gamblers who cannot access online sites go to shops to be able to spend their money in sports betting or lottery options but some agents take advantage of the opportunity if someone wins big by taking away the winnings and this is why there are more and more many gamblers also prefer to bet at online casinos.

I have seen some casinos on this forum end up being scams. Therefore, if I gamble, I will choose a reputable and trustworthy casino. One way I assess casinos on this forum is by looking at the activeness of the ANN threads they have. I prefer to gamble on gambling sites on this forum because if something happens then I can complain via their ANN thread

Since gambling is about money, trust and reputation are paramount. Maybe I often lose when gambling but being cheated is something different and worse than losing