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October 15, 2023, 04:55:27 AM
#55
An underage fella was stabbed to death because he failed to buy some useless guys bottles of wine after he won, I hate local casino locations and den, it's never safe especially in a country with hard economy, the zeal of forcefully taking some others is in the eye of every souls, I don't know here you are from but this is what I am getting in my country, the harder the situation of the country the more crime will be on every streets.

Internet have made things a bit easier for gamblers, I am so against casino locations, anything can happen to you if you win a big amount, and words travel faster than anything, it will reach the ear of bad people.

Grab your PC or your smart phone and start gambling, if you lose it's your problem, and if you win it's also your problem, no one will know how much you win or lose and that makes you safer than leaving your home to gamble in a location.
legendary
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October 15, 2023, 04:44:43 AM
#54
The reason for this is simple.... the smaller gambling shops or agents operate with small bankrolls, so they do not have a lot of funds to payout large wins. They will then close shop and move to another area, where they will start taking bets again... until someone bet large amounts or win large amounts and then they run again.

This is why I am not signing up with smaller casinos, because they do the same thing.... "fly-by-night" operations. I will fist see what other people experience and then when I see that the casino honor their withdrawals, then I will create an account.  Wink
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October 15, 2023, 04:04:20 AM
#53
The victim should be happy that the worst the worker can do was to run away with the money which I believe can be resolved if the victim takes the right approach by using the law, that runaway criminal will be found and the money will be recovered from him.

I actually don't get involved with gambling, not until it's accessible via the internet, because there are many stories happening in my country where a lucky gambler will win life changing money in a casino and criminals will visit them at home, they are either killed for the money after taking everything from them or they just take the money.

This is why I said this victim is lucky, the casino worker choose to use this stupid way to run away with the gamblers money and he doing so turned him into a wanted criminal, if the victim go straight to a police station they will start investigating the matter, there is always someone who knows these casino workers and how they can find them.
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October 15, 2023, 04:03:04 AM
#52
Even if such an agent has a good reputation, the fact that they hold the money for betting can be very risky. They might get tempted when facing financial problems – it's a very human trait. In comparison, when you deposit funds directly with a casino that has a reputation to uphold, they have a bigger interest in keeping your money secure and paying you when you win. Their reputation is their main asset in maintaining a profitable business.
A reputable online casino is controlled by human, so the owner might get tempted too and not want to pay the winnings to the gambler. So it's not make sense if you think only offline casino would scam, actually when you scam in real life, the chance you will get caught is higher than you scam through online.

Have 1xbit's owner go to jail after scamming many gamblers since few years ago? nope.
legendary
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October 15, 2023, 03:10:38 AM
#51
Or, a reputable sports bookie. Those who are positioned in some malls or other activity buildings, I am pretty sure those are legitimate ones and they have nowhere to run since their business information is linked to the building and they can be sued anytime. Perhaps the bet of the man who won was too high that the agent that you said could not pay it any longer so he just ran away thinking that is the only solution he have or else he will be cornered.

Online gambling sites are the best choice indeed, but what if the odds do differ from those physical sports bookies? A 0.1 difference is a high number if you are betting in thousands of dollars and they would want that especially if they are making a long parlay.
Also, the country's restrictions on online sports bookies are another wall to those who want to gamble, and using a VPN is not a good solution since it will jeopardize their accounts and the money in it.
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October 15, 2023, 02:51:26 AM
#50
Betting agents are not very trustworthy when it comes to online gambling so it is very difficult to get their information if they run away. Therefore before starting the gambling game you should know about these agents well. In order to facilitate the service in the case of betting the matter of appointing an agent is stuck in the plan and scammed. If you think you are starting to experience problems with betting then read the terms and conditions and privacy policy about the agents before you start betting. So you will know what rules to follow and get to know professionals who will always help you.
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October 15, 2023, 02:49:56 AM
#49
Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

Well it means that those betting agent is not actually going after to run a clean business since they run when someone win maybe a big amount on their shop. Maybe if the amount is really worth to chase then the person who won the amount should report it to authorities so that that betting agent will be sued and maybe pay what he owes to the winner. Also maybe we would provably know what is the reason about his escape since if it show that they can't really pay their winners then maybe it can affect those other betting shop and costumers might think the same thing happen to them if they bet on those shops again.

In that case maybe we should seek the background first of the betting shop then see if they have license to operate the business so that we would provably know that we can go after with them and have some assurance that we can get our winnings.
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October 15, 2023, 02:45:54 AM
#48
Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.
Provided a Casino/sportsbook survives the first month of operation, then these guys will register some profits and according to your wording these guys have been running this business for a while and I don't think they have ran away as they have the money to payout any winners.
Besides these brick and mortar businesses need to adhere to other regulatory obligations and maybe that's what they are sorting out, give it some time and they will open...and in this day and age users need to move to more convenient channels like gambling online with is a 24/7 service without having to worry about a closed shop.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins
An employee running away with company money should not be your problem, before setting up such a business some capital is secured to show capacity to pay which is why maximum payouts are set to avoid failure to pay... otherwise any internal lose cannot be passed on the clients.
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October 15, 2023, 02:32:37 AM
#47
Even I know there are betting agents who are so trusted, that they never meet you, and you just tell them your bet and deposit money in their accounts and all this correspondence is done through mobile or WhatsApp. It is always better to investigate the repute of the betting agent before transferring your money to him.


Even if such an agent has a good reputation, the fact that they hold the money for betting can be very risky. They might get tempted when facing financial problems – it's a very human trait. In comparison, when you deposit funds directly with a casino that has a reputation to uphold, they have a bigger interest in keeping your money secure and paying you when you win. Their reputation is their main asset in maintaining a profitable business.
legendary
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October 15, 2023, 02:25:47 AM
#46
Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

If anyone is dealing with a betting agent, one should make sure that he is an authentic and trusted betting agent. These days, anyone can claim himself a betting agent, get money from you and then run away with your money. A professional betting agent will never do such things as he makes a lot of income being a trusted agent.

Even I know there are betting agents who are so trusted, that they never meet you, and you just tell them your bet and deposit money in their accounts and all this correspondence is done through mobile or WhatsApp. It is always better to investigate the repute of the betting agent before transferring your money to him.
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October 15, 2023, 02:03:26 AM
#45
If you can find a trusted betting agent, you will not experience cases of fraud like what this man experienced. He will not worry about his betting agent because he is trusted by many people, although there is still a possibility that the betting agent will run away with all his money.

Nothing is safe when it comes to money because people can act beyond our expectations, especially when it comes to money, people will do anything to get it, including the betting agent who ran away. For this reason, we must be able to choose the betting agent correctly so that no problems arise. And it's the same as when you look for online gambling sites. If you can find a trusted online gambling site, especially an online gambling site, on this forum, you won't worry about any problems that might arise.
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October 15, 2023, 02:00:21 AM
#44
That's the risk of using a betting agent; it's like a third-party or bridge for your bets. Why not just use online gambling sites? I'm sure there are plenty out there that are reputable enough to trust with your money. That way, we can also keep our gambling activity hidden, putting us under the radar of those with criminal minds. Not only do we have online gambling sites in the world of crypto, but also in fiat currencies. However, it's easier here in crypto, so I guess they should explore the possibilities to gamble without an agent.

because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

And they will play the blame game, a real hassle on your part! Just take it easy and use online casinos instead. You'll have peace of mind that way.
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October 15, 2023, 01:58:04 AM
#43
Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

I guess that by "gambling shop" you mean sports betting/bookmaker "shop"?
Those sports betting offline places(and the sports betting agents, who run them) must have a license to conduct such kind of business.
If this bookie didn't have a license, he is most likely a scammer. I don't know where do you live. The story you are describing seems to have happened in some underdeveloped country in Africa, Asia or Latin America. I highly doubt that such thing would happen in a European country.
Online sports betting platforms aren't necessarily more secure than offline bookmaker shops. The gamblers will always have to careful, it doesn't matter if they are placing bets online or offline.
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October 15, 2023, 01:46:05 AM
#42
So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

That is a crazy story, why should the betting agent run away after one successful bet from his customer? Maybe he has lost the money in some other way, but still it doesn't make a lot of sense to run away from him. One bad bet alone shouldn't be the reason for someone to abandon his whole business and flee the city. It's not like you can just avoid some people forever and just act like nothing happened. Once the word gets out that you are not paying out winnings then your business as a betting agent it over. It's hard to say more about the situation without knowing additional details, but to me it seems like an overreaction. Hopefully the agent comes to his senses and will pay out the winner. No reason to shed a bad light on the whole industry by the wrong actions of one individual. I agree with you that we should be careful when betting larger amounts with independent betting agents, maybe it would have been better to choose one of the big casino names instead.
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October 15, 2023, 01:32:38 AM
#41
However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.
Nor totally correct, their are some online casino that has done similar thing like this. This is something that can happen in physical gambling shop or even online casinos.  I think when playing gambling both in physical shop or online casinos people just need to be careful,  smart and observant how these gambling companies operate if they are really reliable places to play gambling. So I don't think it is only in the physical gambling shops that bad events like this can take place.

Gamblers needs to get other customers reviews of gambling companies they play bet with just to know if their are good ratings for people to be sure it is safe to play bets.
legendary
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October 15, 2023, 01:26:06 AM
#40
The case is the same as my friend where I warned him not to bet at the gambling shop because it is not certain that his winnings will be paid and it turns out that when he won the bet, the owner of the gambling shop ran away and never returned to that place, that's why I always introduce online casinos. to the people who live around my house, where technology is now increasingly advanced so they can gamble online. Even people who don't understand technology will eventually learn because they want to gamble safely.

But from cases like this it can be a lesson for everyone not to trust the gambling shops around us too much, it's better to just gamble on online casino sites which are currently abundant on the internet and easy to find, lots of casino games, sports betting and so on. other.  Wink
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October 15, 2023, 01:20:58 AM
#39
Don't these kinds of "shops" have a registration or something? Well at least in mine, registrations are required at a certain point, and considering this was related to gambling, I would've reckoned that they needed said permits to continue their business.
My assumption the "shops" that @OP discussed above is an illegal shops, that's why someone can easily escape and there's nothing they can do, especially if gambling is illegal on there. If you go to a court and make a report if there's a scammer run away with the gambler money, you could be jailed since you broke your country rules lol.
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October 15, 2023, 01:05:32 AM
#38
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However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.
IMO, this is just about the bankroll that the bookie or betting agent has. I can understand why the betting agent ran away with the money of the bettor who had won the bet because the agent felt unable to pay the customer winnings because the money he had was not enough to pay it and he thought that if he paid the winnings the customer would go bankrupt.

and related to online gambling, you will experience the same thing, only he dont run away but refuse to pay your winnings for various reasons and worse, sometimes you refuse to pay your customers winnings by accusing them of violating the gambling rules.
so there is a maximum limit on the number of bets on various reputable online gambling sites to limit the amount of big winnings that can be paid by the gambling party and all of this has been calculated from the amount of bankroll owned by the gambling party.

maybe I can appreciate your point about reputable online gambling being the best for gamblers because it has a maximum betting limit which is different from the betting agent next to where you live which may not provide a maximum betting limit and this is just my opinion.
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October 15, 2023, 12:48:43 AM
#37
This is completely new to me. Countries where gambling is restricted, we can't see such shops for the purpose of gambling. This is kind of making the people's ignorance. Maybe in the future we won't encounter such issues happening around as people gets used to the gambling platforms and makes use of it. In my country during the IPL season we will be able to see more such agents working in the underground. Quite often government also runs raids and seize big money and arrest the agents. Whats been mentioned by OP also looks like similar incident and a police complaint might help in recovery the money and catch the fraud agent.
legendary
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October 14, 2023, 10:01:54 PM
#36
Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

The question is, is the betting agent legit or it is a just a fly by night betting shop? If it is a legit betting agent then maybe he has a chance to pursue legal means about the owner. However, if it is just a illegal and fly by night betting shop, I doubt that the winner can go after the owner of the shop as he might simply disappear and never return.

I have been betting on a legitimate betting shop but I haven't encounter this situation. If I won, I will just go there, sometimes they will say that they don't have the money yet and if I'm willing to wait or just go to other legit betting shop to claim my price. Usually legit betting sites have the government approval first, like a lottery or even a horse race betting shop.
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