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legendary
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August 29, 2021, 02:42:31 AM
#97

I don't find any alternative to poker. It is hoped that this will happen in the future. Or ... Everything new is well forgotten old. You just need to think well and remember.
hero member
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August 28, 2021, 03:35:04 PM
#96
The only game that can be an alternative for poker is Preferans, Remi or some variations of Bridge (I know some)... cards game where you play against other people, and you need to know how to play your cards in the best way... these games include thinking, with good players a lot of thinking! I wouldn't dare to compare these cards games with dice games of any sort!
I'd say that bridge is more luck-based as compared to poker. For long it's been considered that poker is about 50-60% skill, but recently I've seen this number going up as high as 80% in discussions, some even say that in the long run, it's a pure skill.

Bridge, on the contrary, largely depends on the cards you get during the game, what I've found playing bridge P2P is that, at some point, after me and the other player getting to know all the rules and tricks, acquiring some necessary skills we win approximately 50/50, and it all depends on cards.
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August 28, 2021, 03:18:36 PM
#95
As I know for playing Axie's you need to make an investment first... it's not a free-to-play game! Or I am wrong? When I wanted to try it I talked with some people about it, maybe they gave me wrong info about the game and I didn't bother much to check it out by myself, so I just decided to not try it!
You're right that it's requiring an investment for you to own an Axie, you have to purchase three of them and every Axie is sold or can be bought individually.

There's a rumor that there will be a free to play feature of it but you won't be able to earn anything. It's just a feature to make you experience how to play it.
legendary
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August 28, 2021, 07:44:50 AM
#94
If you want to try an alternative with the poker you can try to the dice game we know even on the dice there's a chance of having a good output depends on the projectile and the amount of force you will toss the dice to show the outcome you want of course its not basic just like you want to get the result still it depends on the player.

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Axie Infinity is worth a try? Recently I heard a lot about them and the game logic itself looks quite solid. But nevertheless: I'm always afraid of bots.

Axie today is one of the top-earning NFT and there are a lot of people already earned with this game if you don't want to make an investment I don't think so you will earn here unless you will be come to a scholar and find a manager.



The only game that can be an alternative for poker is Preferans, Remi or some variations of Bridge (I know some)... cards game where you play against other people, and you need to know how to play your cards in the best way... these games include thinking, with good players a lot of thinking! I wouldn't dare to compare these cards games with dice games of any sort!

As I know for playing Axie's you need to make an investment first... it's not a free-to-play game! Or I am wrong? When I wanted to try it I talked with some people about it, maybe they gave me wrong info about the game and I didn't bother much to check it out by myself, so I just decided to not try it!
legendary
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August 28, 2021, 07:30:19 AM
#93
If you want to try an alternative with the poker you can try to the dice game we know even on the dice there's a chance of having a good output depends on the projectile and the amount of force you will toss the dice to show the outcome you want of course its not basic just like you want to get the result still it depends on the player.

~~~
Axie Infinity is worth a try? Recently I heard a lot about them and the game logic itself looks quite solid. But nevertheless: I'm always afraid of bots.

Axie today is one of the top-earning NFT and there are a lot of people already earned with this game if you don't want to make an investment I don't think so you will earn here unless you will be come to a scholar and find a manager.

hero member
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August 14, 2021, 09:40:03 AM
#92
I have always liked PVP games, the only thing is that in casinos they are very limited, because in some cases very few are Black Jack, most are Poker and in fact the majority of non-casino games that have the PVP system and those that are related to money are usually Runscape, Tibia, Axie Infinity and so far no casino has adopted having a game system of this style, although I do not know if some type of combination can be made for it, but if a casino will achieve making such compatibility could win the casinos expert players globally.

Maybe this represents a challenge for game developers in casinos, but I think anything is possible.


Axie Infinity is worth a try? Recently I heard a lot about them and the game logic itself looks quite solid. But nevertheless: I'm always afraid of bots.
legendary
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July 08, 2021, 05:44:44 PM
#91
I have always liked PVP games, the only thing is that in casinos they are very limited, because in some cases very few are Black Jack, most are Poker and in fact the majority of non-casino games that have the PVP system and those that are related to money are usually Runscape, Tibia, Axie Infinity and so far no casino has adopted having a game system of this style, although I do not know if some type of combination can be made for it, but if a casino will achieve making such compatibility could win the casinos expert players globally.

Maybe this represents a challenge for game developers in casinos, but I think anything is possible.

hero member
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July 08, 2021, 12:29:23 PM
#90
Sadly, but this is not a lonely case, we see them around everyday... people who never gamble make more posts than I do, and I gamble almost every day!
I would like to see the answer to this question, how someone who doesn't gamble can make constructive posts in the gambling section?! If we see the answer at all, in what I doubt!

We had a Bitcointalk private tournament... it's a good example of how things work here in the gambling section... so on some poker threads we see so many comments about poker, how to play poker, and where to play poker, but when we need to gather and PLAY poker, there are just 10-15 of us in the end on the tables! Smiley

We can make a bet, but somehow I am sure it's the same with other gambling games...
This is really a really weird argumentation. So to talk about football you need to play football? To make constructive posts on politics you need to be a politician? It this your opinion? Of course it is possible to make constructive (critical) posts about gambling. I can't see the issue, but this is definitely OT.
legendary
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July 04, 2021, 12:29:47 PM
#89
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If you don't gamble how could you post constructive posts in the gambling section? That's why usually non gambling users have to avoid campaign where posts in the gambling section are mandatory, because they're spamming. I'm sorry but your BM should have not enrolled you in this campaign.
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Sadly, but this is not a lonely case, we see them around everyday... people who never gamble make more posts than I do, and I gamble almost every day!
I would like to see the answer to this question, how someone who doesn't gamble can make constructive posts in the gambling section?! If we see the answer at all, in what I doubt!

We had a Bitcointalk private tournament... it's a good example of how things work here in the gambling section... so on some poker threads we see so many comments about poker, how to play poker, and where to play poker, but when we need to gather and PLAY poker, there are just 10-15 of us in the end on the tables! Smiley

We can make a bet, but somehow I am sure it's the same with other gambling games...
legendary
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July 04, 2021, 08:49:30 AM
#88
Saying that the "casino always (ALWAYS!) wins" means the user always loses according to you, it's its implicit corollary. It's sad to read that from someone promoting a casino and a regular poster of the gambling section  Embarrassed. You shouldn't do that anymore if you are really believing in what you are saying, there are more appropriate bounty campaigns for you if you are just a bounty hunter.
In reality the house usually wins against one player on the long run... but it's not always the case, otherwise nobody would be able to become rich through gambling and nobody would gamble anymore.
And it's not the case at all on the short run. If you place a stake on the red color at the american roulette today and win and then leave the table how the house could have won anything? It's a pure loss for the casino.
Moreover if you would invest in the bankroll of a casino you would see that the ROI is usually not high at all.
What exactly would be the advantage if I leave the campaign? Someone else would take my spot maybe starting to shill casinos. I am definitely not shilling anything. So from my point of view it really makes sense.
If you don't gamble how could you post constructive posts in the gambling section? That's why usually non gambling users have to avoid campaign where posts in the gambling section are mandatory, because they're spamming. I'm sorry but your BM should have not enrolled you in this campaign.

And yes, the casino always wins (regarding the expected value). Even if you win really big IMO most people get addicted because they want even more.
Again you're wrong, only noobs and losers think that. Look at these stats from a live roulette game of Evolution Gaming (which is certainly also available at the casino you are promoting). That's the stats from the last 500 rounds.
The one who bet on the red color got 52% chances to double his stake.  
That means the house has been at loss on this color during at least 500 rounds. And the one who wagered 10$ 10 times on the red color won 10x10x(0.52x2-1)=4$ at the end.


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July 04, 2021, 06:37:29 AM
#87
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Please tell me: Why skill is required in a slot game? There is no skill. The casino always (ALWAYS!) wins. There is no strategy which wins. There are no people playing slots as a job, so please tell me, how I can understand the game of slots. I am just very curious.

Understand it as a highly risky gambling game! When something is highly risky, the chances of getting busted are high! Of course, big/huge wins are possible even with low bets! There's no strategy for slots, but as with any other game, you can play with some plan... and it's always better when you have at least some plan! I guess that plan is playing with lower and higher bets (changing your bet through the game), and if you are lucky you will hit a bonus round with some higher bet!

Slots can be crazy! We all know that! I like to play them and I find some entertainment in playing them... the choice is big, so many providers, different themes, different bonus rounds... playing to see the bonus round, and having luck in the bonus round can be a really big win! It's all fun! After all, don't risk what you can't afford to lose and you can have a lot of fun with slots!

Slots is a fun gambling game, so don't be burdened by having to win, let our luck determine the outcome. Moreover, we can win by playing
lower bets, that's a fun thing, therefore there really isn't an effective strategy to win in slots games. Slots is a game based on luck, so I agree
the risks are huge. Always play with money that we can afford to lose.
hero member
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July 04, 2021, 06:23:13 AM
#86
Please tell me: Why skill is required in a slot game? There is no skill. The casino always (ALWAYS!) wins. There is no strategy which wins. There are no people playing slots as a job, so please tell me, how I can understand the game of slots. I am just very curious.
Saying that the "casino always (ALWAYS!) wins" means the user always loses according to you, it's its implicit corollary. It's sad to read that from someone promoting a casino and a regular poster of the gambling section  Embarrassed. You shouldn't do that anymore if you are really believing in what you are saying, there are more appropriate bounty campaigns for you if you are just a bounty hunter.
In reality the house usually wins against one player on the long run... but it's not always the case, otherwise nobody would be able to become rich through gambling and nobody would gamble anymore.
And it's not the case at all on the short run. If you place a stake on the red color at the american roulette today and win and then leave the table how the house could have won anything? It's a pure loss for the casino.
Moreover if you would invest in the bankroll of a casino you would see that the ROI is usually not high at all.
What exactly would be the advantage if I leave the campaign? Someone else would take my spot maybe starting to shill casinos. I am definitely not shilling anything. So from my point of view it really makes sense.

And yes, the casino always wins (regarding the expected value). Even if you win really big IMO most people get addicted because they want even more.
legendary
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July 04, 2021, 04:29:03 AM
#85
Please tell me: Why skill is required in a slot game? There is no skill. The casino always (ALWAYS!) wins. There is no strategy which wins. There are no people playing slots as a job, so please tell me, how I can understand the game of slots. I am just very curious.
Saying that the "casino always (ALWAYS!) wins" means the user always loses according to you, it's its implicit corollary. It's sad to read that from someone promoting a casino and a regular poster of the gambling section  Embarrassed. You shouldn't do that anymore if you are really believing in what you are saying, there are more appropriate bounty campaigns for you if you are just a bounty hunter.
In reality the house usually wins against one player on the long run... but it's not always the case, otherwise nobody would be able to become rich through gambling and nobody would gamble anymore.
And it's not the case at all on the short run. If you place a stake on the red color at the american roulette today and win and then leave the table how the house could have won anything? It's a pure loss for the casino.
Moreover if you would invest in the bankroll of a casino you would see that the ROI is usually not high at all.
legendary
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July 04, 2021, 04:06:06 AM
#84
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Please tell me: Why skill is required in a slot game? There is no skill. The casino always (ALWAYS!) wins. There is no strategy which wins. There are no people playing slots as a job, so please tell me, how I can understand the game of slots. I am just very curious.

Understand it as a highly risky gambling game! When something is highly risky, the chances of getting busted are high! Of course, big/huge wins are possible even with low bets! There's no strategy for slots, but as with any other game, you can play with some plan... and it's always better when you have at least some plan! I guess that plan is playing with lower and higher bets (changing your bet through the game), and if you are lucky you will hit a bonus round with some higher bet!

Slots can be crazy! We all know that! I like to play them and I find some entertainment in playing them... the choice is big, so many providers, different themes, different bonus rounds... playing to see the bonus round, and having luck in the bonus round can be a really big win! It's all fun! After all, don't risk what you can't afford to lose and you can have a lot of fun with slots!
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July 01, 2021, 12:57:35 PM
#83
Monopoly is a cool match up for me since it has a full component of pvp But it's highly skilled and requires lots of mortgage skills and knowledge to win up this isn't just a game of luck in here it takes your skill and a little knowledge about housing management to win
Actually you are right. If we could develop Monopoly a bit and create a game where also other players have something to do during a turn of player 1, it would have a very good opportunity, because everyone know about monopoly and also it is known and famous for its mixture of luck and skilll.
After all, all gambling games will definitely require skill and luck, these factors are the most important factors in any game in gambling. But indeed, there are slot games that seem to be purely about luck but I believe, there are still many out there who don't understand the game of slots and as such, skill will still be involved even if it is a slot game. So yes, the alternative to poker can basically be any type of gambling game, because it depends on how we respond to the game itself because with the many choices of gambling games available at the casino, of course it will be an alternative which makes it easier for us to choose and play it.
Please tell me: Why skill is required in a slot game? There is no skill. The casino always (ALWAYS!) wins. There is no strategy which wins. There are no people playing slots as a job, so please tell me, how I can understand the game of slots. I am just very curious.
legendary
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July 01, 2021, 12:52:54 PM
#82
Monopoly is a cool match up for me since it has a full component of pvp But it's highly skilled and requires lots of mortgage skills and knowledge to win up this isn't just a game of luck in here it takes your skill and a little knowledge about housing management to win
Actually you are right. If we could develop Monopoly a bit and create a game where also other players have something to do during a turn of player 1, it would have a very good opportunity, because everyone know about monopoly and also it is known and famous for its mixture of luck and skilll.
After all, all gambling games will definitely require skill and luck, these factors are the most important factors in any game in gambling. But indeed, there are slot games that seem to be purely about luck but I believe, there are still many out there who don't understand the game of slots and as such, skill will still be involved even if it is a slot game. So yes, the alternative to poker can basically be any type of gambling game, because it depends on how we respond to the game itself because with the many choices of gambling games available at the casino, of course it will be an alternative which makes it easier for us to choose and play it.
hero member
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July 01, 2021, 12:30:47 PM
#81
Monopoly is a cool match up for me since it has a full component of pvp But it's highly skilled and requires lots of mortgage skills and knowledge to win up this isn't just a game of luck in here it takes your skill and a little knowledge about housing management to win
Actually you are right. If we could develop Monopoly a bit and create a game where also other players have something to do during a turn of player 1, it would have a very good opportunity, because everyone know about monopoly and also it is known and famous for its mixture of luck and skilll.
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June 30, 2021, 08:31:47 AM
#80
Monopoly is a cool match up for me since it has a full component of pvp But it's highly skilled and requires lots of mortgage skills and knowledge to win up this isn't just a game of luck in here it takes your skill and a little knowledge about housing management to win
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June 30, 2021, 08:03:09 AM
#79
This is not a gambling but it does have some sort of PVP element to it so I don't know if it's counted with your criteria, and I think this is much safer because you win something but when you lose, you don't get anything but you also don't lose. The game that I am talking about is Axie Infinity, pretty famous in my country.
hero member
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June 30, 2021, 06:29:28 AM
#78
In the case of a PVP game where both luck and skill are involved, then wouldn't the majority of the card games be included in it? I'm not talking about the deck of cards that we usee in poker, but rather the different types of card games that are out there such as hearthstone, shadowverse, etc. They aren't really aligned with Gambling yes, but that's because the games themselves are composed of a wide variety of cards that all players wouldn't necessarily be able to use. Not to mention that the factor of luck involved is based on 2 players only, compared to poker that has multiple playeres PLUS the cards that the dealer will set.

As far as I know 1v1 are from a game theory of point more easy to solve from an algorithm. I would love to see a massive online tournament with 100s of players battling each other with the perfect mix of luck and skill making it possible maybe to play it for a living (if you are really really good)
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