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Quote from: paxmao on April 19, 2021, 03:41:40 AM

My concern is how often are riggers caught really. Unless they make obvious mistakes, it is very difficult to tell if a player, for example, missed a shot intentionally. It is just not impossible that a player underperforms in a game just because he has a bad day and even if you are suspicious it is very difficult to prove. Soccer is even more difficult in that aspect. Are these blunders? They could be on-purpose.

But on that particular video or game, even if you are thinking that they are not trying to fix the game, it will cross your mind because it is so obvious, it will make you think, why a player that tall with very near the basket will still not convert the shot and on one occasion a player driving to the basket intentionally miss it, it's not that they are having a bad day, even if a player is not in a good condition he can convert a layup because there is no opposition to block him.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 16, 2021, 08:00:45 AM

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Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Thanks for sharing! These guys should have made it a bit less obvious, I guess, but, on the other hand, what do we want from them?, they are not movie actors. Obviously, they were told to act like that by their managers, shame on them!, but I wouldn't blame the players themselves. I even think that they could intentionally made it look the way it looked, to draw attention to this shameful game. They obviously didn't enjoy participating in it.

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Quote from: paxmao on April 19, 2021, 03:41:40 AM

My concern is how often are riggers caught really. Unless they make obvious mistakes, it is very difficult to tell if a player, for example, missed a shot intentionally. It is just not impossible that a player underperforms in a game just because he has a bad day and even if you are suspicious it is very difficult to prove.

this isnt the first time that happen but there are simillar cases that i saw in the past so i can say that it do happens often . some arent obvious but in this basketball match its was obvious that they are rigging the game based on how they play . its not difficult to tell but even the watchers that didnt know how to play that sport can tell if they are just performing bad of there is something wrong going on .

Quote from: paxmao on April 19, 2021, 03:41:40 AM

Soccer is even more difficult in that aspect. Are these blunders? They could be on-purpose.
Blundersssss

its difficult to detect rigging in soccer because its hard to make a goal . it will look that players are playing normally even if they arent and no they arent blunders but they rig the game for a reason

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My concern is how often are riggers caught really. Unless they make obvious mistakes, it is very difficult to tell if a player, for example, missed a shot intentionally. It is just not impossible that a player underperforms in a game just because he has a bad day and even if you are suspicious it is very difficult to prove. Soccer is even more difficult in that aspect. Are these blunders? They could be on-purpose.

Blundersssss

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It's obviously the team that wanted to lose the game is not use to throw like a game like that, in other words, it's not their field to cheat in the court but maybe they are just forced to do those things because the higher authority has told them to do so and as we can see the result is just some obvious kids game that just wanted to throw the ball here and there.

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Quote from: electronicash on April 19, 2021, 01:22:20 AM

i don't know if it's really rigged but if it is then the players are not at fault really, they are probably forced to participate because of the people behind the gamble.

There really are matches that are rigged in sports especially in unpopular tournaments but they are being listed in sports books. The players are at fault on this.
They should be the one to be blamed and they deserve punishment. The acts were obvious if you're going to watch it on the video that's posted by the OP. They're not forced to do it but it's their choice to participate to sell the game.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on April 19, 2021, 01:16:19 AM

I Personally Known a Philippine Basketball Association Player that admits being part of this kind of rigging and that is happening more than 8 years ago.

Meaning if this Syndicate is in the system for long time , No wonder how large the operation is and how many Victims had already suffered from their Game fixing activities?

BS system that allows this to happen that long , meaning there are even officials that participating in this kind.

I have heard about this story, a lot of players were suspended for this rigging, AFAIK there is still this kind of syndicate in the leagues, they are just more careful with their moves now. Game fixing is a big business in my country and I wouldn't be surprised if there are more people that is involved in the rigging.

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so many mistakes in the game from turnovers to shot not hitting the rim. doesn't look pro. i watch these teams all the time but i never really think that they could rigg matches since Filipinos are proud when they see themselves on tv contributing to the team's success.

i don't know if it's really rigged but if it is then the players are not at fault really, they are probably forced to participate because of the people behind the gamble.

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I Personally Known a Philippine Basketball Association Player that admits being part of this kind of rigging and that is happening more than 8 years ago.

Meaning if this Syndicate is in the system for long time , No wonder how large the operation is and how many Victims had already suffered from their Game fixing activities?

BS system that allows this to happen that long , meaning there are even officials that participating in this kind.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on April 18, 2021, 06:41:03 PM

Saw this yesterday. From the clips alone you can definitely tell that there's something fishy going on, constantly missing shots, dribbling like you're a belligerent drunk, letting someone take the ball, it's like watching slimes play basketball because of how lame and limpy they all play. A good thing that the committee saw that the game was cancelled, and hopefully an intensive investigation is conducted to find out who the perpetrator of this fixing is.

Such observations are even those who really not playing that well with this game can define which is which, by the way this players are doing it.
An obvious one no doubts is indeed a fixed game that been showcase from that game, those responsible including the coaches are liable

They know it, in case giving them a benefits of doubt, they should adjus right away not to allow this messed to continue, they've got the reputations if not the best pro but giving that chance to play to something big league like this, where a lots of inspiring players are aiming to get the post, this big mistake will forever remember.

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Quote from: crwth on April 18, 2021, 09:49:57 AM

Greed is all I can say with that. Mostly, people who take advantage of that are the ones who are in charge of officiating it as well. It sucks but it does happen and it's not gonna stop for any kind of sport anytime soon. When humans are desperate enough and worship money enough, they would do those despicable things that would probably disrespect of people involved.

No one can put a stop to this but themselves. Learning that it's not right is the way but who knows what else they have come up with.

We might apply here the quote "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer". These rich people are greedy and they will use everything just to have more money and in this case, its the players who are being used. Officiating officials might be involved here but the ones to blame here are the higher people. They are just destroying the reputation of the sport. Will this thing stop in the future? I don't think so especially when they see that they are getting money into it.

Quote from: CarnagexD on April 18, 2021, 06:41:03 PM

Saw this yesterday. From the clips alone you can definitely tell that there's something fishy going on, constantly missing shots, dribbling like you're a belligerent drunk, letting someone take the ball, it's like watching slimes play basketball because of how lame and limpy they all play. A good thing that the committee saw that the game was cancelled, and hopefully an intensive investigation is conducted to find out who the perpetrator of this fixing is.

I just saw a few clips too in one of the basketball youtubers that I always watch and its pretty darn obvious that this game is fixed. Fastbreaks that doesn't go in, player shooting just a few feet from the rim and yet it went airball, free throws that are just touching the board, spending shot clock and ending up being a turnover and many more.

I don't expect that game fixing will no be there soon but I hope that the management will do something about this even though this will be a hard task for them so solve.

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Quote from: Cling18 on April 18, 2021, 08:25:03 AM

I've heard about this news before and it was really disappointing that there are people who will do things like that just for the sake of money.

When in terms of money, everything is possible. It's no longer a question as there are many participants who rides with this

kind of annoying business, fixed game is a big venue for those players and gamblers, money are flowing around as we knew it.

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Those people shouldn't involve themselves in sports anymore because they aren't playing fairly which is disrespectful for society and the basketball community.

I agree! those players should avoid playing anymore, they should stop and live a life away from this sports. They are annoying and they'll just
continue messing it up if given a chance.

Honestly, there is no way around it. If you look at how many games you can bet on, unknown sports and unknown leagues, now even online with cryptocurrency, I am damn sure that there is so much fraud going on all over the place.

It is impossible to control for everything in my opinion. Now with cryptocurrencies, even more impossible than impossible.

If somebody is caught I think the penalty should extremely high, maybe exclusion from sports for years.

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Saw this yesterday. From the clips alone you can definitely tell that there's something fishy going on, constantly missing shots, dribbling like you're a belligerent drunk, letting someone take the ball, it's like watching slimes play basketball because of how lame and limpy they all play. A good thing that the committee saw that the game was cancelled, and hopefully an intensive investigation is conducted to find out who the perpetrator of this fixing is.

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In my country it's punishable and players are also banner , like some literally forever. What these people did was honestly wrong but we have to understand the fact that the real people behind this is not these teams but rather big whales who lure in underpaid players. Since this is a basketball team honestly they are not paid but in that country and the recognition is also a little lost for them. Therefore they were just going with the flow and trying to make some extra money during the pandemic. I do think that this matter should be deeply inspected , and the punishment should not only be given to the players but also the big whales betting on this event also. Plus they made it too obvious. That was indeed a big fail. This is very wrong. I am sure that many of the people involved in this are also the officials who are in charge of maintenance of everything there.

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Quote from: crwth on April 18, 2021, 09:49:57 AM

Greed is all I can say with that. Mostly, people who take advantage of that are the ones who are in charge of officiating it as well. It sucks but it does happen and it's not gonna stop for any kind of sport anytime soon. When humans are desperate enough and worship money enough, they would do those despicable things that would probably disrespect of people involved.

No one can put a stop to this but themselves. Learning that it's not right is the way but who knows what else they have come up with.

What else they come up with? Of course that would be money nothing else and i agree that Greed is the primary reason on why players and management itself
do agree on rigging up the game like that without even trying to look up themselves that its way too obvious.

Looks like that children were playing and those kind of moves are totally shit and even my son could do it.I cant afford to look even up more into the game.

This looks a practice game than on an actual serious professional game.

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Quote from: Reatim on April 18, 2021, 05:46:39 AM

Quote from: hulla on April 17, 2021, 12:59:58 PM

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

They must be salute and Give rewards because they are the reason why this case being broadcasted and surely will be the basis of the investigation from now on.

Of course they will be reward and gain more trust around the world.

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Quote from: hulla on April 17, 2021, 12:59:58 PM

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

That's one positive thing with this scandal. The organizers were quick to noticed that the game was rigged or this something fishy about it. I may say that whoever had the intention of rigging the games did not succeed as the game was stopped.

As what i've said in my previous post (other thread), only one team knows that the game were to be rigged and the other just poorly handled the situation but still they are liable for their actions. Rigged games were supposed not to be played that way, very obvious and even the not so fan of basketball can notice the anomalies.

Yes, the game organizers did a wonderful job by spotting out that something is wrong somewhere about the game but the people that rigged the game are a gambler, they have already succeeded because in the gambling world some people bet on the activities they believe will happen in the first half of the game.

I think the reason why they play an obvious rigg game is because the people in charge of the game rigging are the one control the game.

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Quote from: Lucius on April 16, 2021, 08:44:04 AM

Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? If they weren't sick, then this is more than an obvious set-up, and considering how hard they tried to miss clear opportunities, it seems to me that the goal was to finish the game with as few points as possible.

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

This is why there needs to be an investigation about this, if they were sick then this could explain their bad performance, and if it was the case that some of the family members of the players were kidnapped or there was the threat of physical harm against them and their family then it is understandable why this happened, however if an investigation finds out that the players were bribed and that they accepted it then they need to be banned for live from the sport.

It's still unacceptable to rig the game due to their personal problem, they have had reported it to the authorities so they will be help, not putting the reputation of the game in a bad line, just unacceptable. I'm sure the investigation is already on going, so let's just wait for the result and speculate less.

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Quote from: Lucius on April 16, 2021, 08:44:04 AM

Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? If they weren't sick, then this is more than an obvious set-up, and considering how hard they tried to miss clear opportunities, it seems to me that the goal was to finish the game with as few points as possible.

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

This is why there needs to be an investigation about this, if they were sick then this could explain their bad performance, and if it was the case that some of the family members of the players were kidnapped or there was the threat of physical harm against them and their family then it is understandable why this happened, however if an investigation finds out that the players were bribed and that they accepted it then they need to be banned for live from the sport.

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Quote from: Cling18 on April 18, 2021, 08:25:03 AM

I've heard about this news before and it was really disappointing that there are people who will do things like that just for the sake of money.

When in terms of money, everything is possible. It's no longer a question as there are many participants who rides with this

kind of annoying business, fixed game is a big venue for those players and gamblers, money are flowing around as we knew it.

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Those people shouldn't involve themselves in sports anymore because they aren't playing fairly which is disrespectful for society and the basketball community.

I agree! those players should avoid playing anymore, they should stop and live a life away from this sports. They are annoying and they'll just
continue messing it up if given a chance.

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Greed is all I can say with that. Mostly, people who take advantage of that are the ones who are in charge of officiating it as well. It sucks but it does happen and it's not gonna stop for any kind of sport anytime soon. When humans are desperate enough and worship money enough, they would do those despicable things that would probably disrespect of people involved.

No one can put a stop to this but themselves. Learning that it's not right is the way but who knows what else they have come up with.

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