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April 22, 2021, 07:51:07 AM
100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.
Not in the NBA anymore I think. But maybe yes, in the past that there were some isolated cases that have happened through it but it's different by this time.
There's really big money in basketball that makes these players agree what they don't want to do. They deserve the sanction and ban.
There are issues on NBA too about being rigged on some games which are bit obvious but this isnt as rampant compared into those minor leagues that do happen because if we do

really think off about the possibilities then its there but it wont really be that common or that be too obvious.So i would be skipping out on NBA but rather sticking into those

professional games just like on that video given which those gameplays are purely shit and damn obvious.
In minor leagues, they're really rampant because the attention that they get is unlike the popular and big conferences and leagues worldwide or even in the local leagues.
What's sad and triggering is that even after watching the obvious video, they're denying it and putting the blame into the others not themselves.
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April 21, 2021, 11:08:37 PM
Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.
I didn't too, it was a shitty solution that can be easily bypassed.

Did you guys just focus on the headline title and not just reading the content? Tell me where's the part that they treat is a "as a solution"?

It's just for limiting contacts outside during the game. They are in the BUBBLE if you guys are not aware. There's no way these players can deal with a pre-plan fixing especially if the other team is not aware of the rigged, especially for handicap betting. If ever there will be a rigged, it should be in live progress.

And also try to read the content about the suspensions and penalties made, and not just the surrender of the phone thing. With that suspensions, I doubt some will take part again in that shitty activity.
I did read the article and just Like what said, it could be just a first step of a more effective rule as they discuss the scandal further. I mentioned the lifetime banning of the siquijor team and penalties and suspensions to the number of members of the Lapu-Lapu team which I like.

I forgot to add that the phones will only be confiscated before the start of the game.
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April 21, 2021, 05:09:27 PM
Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.
I didn't too, it was a shitty solution that can be easily bypassed.

Did you guys just focus on the headline title and not just reading the content? Tell me where's the part that they treat is a "as a solution"?

It's just for limiting contacts outside during the game. They are in the BUBBLE if you guys are not aware. There's no way these players can deal with a pre-plan fixing especially if the other team is not aware of the rigged, especially for handicap betting. If ever there will be a rigged, it should be in live progress.

And also try to read the content about the suspensions and penalties made, and not just the surrender of the phone thing. With that suspensions, I doubt some will take part again in that shitty activity.
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April 21, 2021, 04:20:56 PM
100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.
Not in the NBA anymore I think. But maybe yes, in the past that there were some isolated cases that have happened through it but it's different by this time.
There's really big money in basketball that makes these players agree what they don't want to do. They deserve the sanction and ban.
There are issues on NBA too about being rigged on some games which are bit obvious but this isnt as rampant compared into those minor leagues that do happen because if we do

really think off about the possibilities then its there but it wont really be that common or that be too obvious.So i would be skipping out on NBA but rather sticking into those

professional games just like on that video given which those gameplays are purely shit and damn obvious.
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April 21, 2021, 04:18:45 PM
If we already talking about fixed games, I can share recent case which happened just few days ago in my country. Look at this goal:
https://m.facebook.com/KrasnickasMantas/videos/3932323906788812/
It's just ridiculous. And there is many reasons to believe that game was fixed. First, live stream of game started only from 23rd minute, after 3 goals were already scored. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Both teams previously already been involved in fixed games. Home team were not allowed to join top division this year because of it, same happened to away team few years ago.
Away team manager already was banned in past for 2 years for allegations being involved in fixed games.
Before the game I saw post in one group suggesting to bet on over 4.5 goals. I thought it was joke, but game ended 3:2. I haven't saw odds before game, but I read comments saying that it didn't reflected real strength of both teams.
IMO, it was one of the most obvious example of fixed game in recent time I saw.
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April 21, 2021, 01:30:56 PM
Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? If they weren't sick, then this is more than an obvious set-up, and considering how hard they tried to miss clear opportunities, it seems to me that the goal was to finish the game with as few points as possible.

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.
This is why there needs to be an investigation about this, if they were sick then this could explain their bad performance, and if it was the case that some of the family members of the players were kidnapped or there was the threat of physical harm against them and their family then it is understandable why this happened, however if an investigation finds out that the players were bribed and that they accepted it then they need to be banned for live from the sport.

It's still unacceptable to rig the game due to their personal problem, they have had reported it to the authorities so they will be help, not putting the reputation of the game in a bad line, just unacceptable. I'm sure the investigation is already on going, so let's just wait for the result and speculate less.
I did not say that under those circumstances their behaviour was acceptable but understandable, which is a big difference, also we must remember there are many countries in which organized crime and the police are one and the same, which is why many people when they are a victim of a crime they do not go to the police as most likely there are members of that criminal organization on the police and you are just becoming an even bigger target by going to the police.
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April 21, 2021, 11:21:23 AM
100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.
Not in the NBA anymore I think. But maybe yes, in the past that there were some isolated cases that have happened through it but it's different by this time.
There's really big money in basketball that makes these players agree what they don't want to do. They deserve the sanction and ban.
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April 21, 2021, 10:26:31 AM
Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.
I didn't too, it was a shitty solution that can be easily bypassed. but it was their decision, maybe it's just a first step or its just for a show just to say that they are doing something to prevent game-fixing but I'd assume that they'll add more rules that would make more sense as they talk even further about how to prevent these kinds of game-fixing in the future. what I did like though is that they have permanently banned players and given punishments to those who are involved in this issue.
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April 21, 2021, 09:59:07 AM
there's an update regarding the rules on the VisMin Cup that forces the teams to surrender their phones before the games to the technical group of VisMin Cup with the coordination of the PNP officials(Philippine National Police). this was their solution to prevent or deter any future game-fixing in the game.

also, I am glad that VisMin Cup organizers have decided to ban the members of siquijor team and a suspension and penalties to the players of Lapu-Lapu team.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/vismin-cup-orders-teams-to-surrender-mobile-phones-before-games-a795-20210420

Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.

They can simply deal with their plans much earlier and not to deal with it during the live events.

I mean there's nothing to happen even the league organizers will confiscate players and staffs CP, everything can be done prior and just like what you are saying, those players or whoever behind this game fixing activities are smart enough to find ways to continue their illegal business.
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April 21, 2021, 09:35:14 AM
there's an update regarding the rules on the VisMin Cup that forces the teams to surrender their phones before the games to the technical group of VisMin Cup with the coordination of the PNP officials(Philippine National Police). this was their solution to prevent or deter any future game-fixing in the game.

also, I am glad that VisMin Cup organizers have decided to ban the members of siquijor team and a suspension and penalties to the players of Lapu-Lapu team.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/vismin-cup-orders-teams-to-surrender-mobile-phones-before-games-a795-20210420

Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.
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April 21, 2021, 08:25:22 AM
there's an update regarding the rules on the VisMin Cup that forces the teams to surrender their phones before the games to the technical group of VisMin Cup with the coordination of the PNP officials(Philippine National Police). this was their solution to prevent or deter any future game-fixing in the game.

also, I am glad that VisMin Cup organizers have decided to ban the members of siquijor team and a suspension and penalties to the players of Lapu-Lapu team.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/vismin-cup-orders-teams-to-surrender-mobile-phones-before-games-a795-20210420
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April 21, 2021, 07:29:09 AM
When it's about money, there is nothing surprising anymore, especially rigged games just like what you have mentioned. In this time of pandemic, many people are just being practical because they have families to feed, you can't blame them though, however, they cannot hide the fact that it is indeed a shameful act as an athlete and as a professional basketball team.

Even in other sports, this kind of scripted play is happening, but others are just good actors that's why no one noticed that their match was rigged unless they are going to confess it to the public.
Yes, it is right. People now suffer to search for how to make money, including people who are rigging the sports game. But I think they do not have to do that because that will make their name will bad in the sports activity. And if their name becomes bad, I do not think that they will not be asked to help the sports event. They need to think about that because that will impact their career. If they think that they can not get caught this time, someday, they will get caught and they can not do anything.

I guess they will not confess to the public because that is dirty work with the others. So that can almost impossible for them to admit in public unless they are getting caught.
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April 21, 2021, 07:18:25 AM
When it's about money, there is nothing surprising anymore, especially rigged games just like what you have mentioned. In this time of pandemic, many people are just being practical because they have families to feed, you can't blame them though, however, they cannot hide the fact that it is indeed a shameful act as an athlete and as a professional basketball team.

Even in other sports, this kind of scripted play is happening, but others are just good actors that's why no one noticed that their match was rigged unless they are going to confess it to the public.
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April 21, 2021, 07:02:50 AM
100% disrespect to the game of basketball,
Dont be generalized because the whole Basketball Game does not stand for this rigging, remember that there are still good players and officials that surely against this case.
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but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team.
I think they don't deserve the win and instead DRAW must be declare in this game.
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I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA.
Actually before this asian case , NBA is the first to have an expose issue of rigging.
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Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.
This Gives tons of Money so what can we expect to the corrupt people .
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April 21, 2021, 06:08:05 AM
this is what a low quality rigged match looks like, i believe that a lot of sports and even professionnel teams and athletes rig some matches, and we probably saw it live and we were like "how did he miss something like that ?" when it actually was intentional, i actually thought that WWE fights were real when i was young, and i know a lot of people who were arguing whether it was real or they just follow scenario, if they didn't Exaggerate in their fights and scenarios, people would not find out that it's fake, and they would only have some doubts.

That's why we've got to give credit to the players from OP's video. Those were told by their manager what outcome of the game should be, but they weren't trying to make it look real. After re-watching the video, I even think they wanted it to look fake.
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April 21, 2021, 05:49:14 AM
A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.


I wonder what's going on in their minds they are trying to rig or fix the game but they make it appear they are, they should have practiced before playing like they do in WWE wrestling where the games are fixed but the audiences do not know what will become the outcome of the match, obviously they are not good in fixing a game and because of this, they are going to face penalties or even ban.
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April 21, 2021, 01:30:46 AM
100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.
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April 20, 2021, 11:56:56 PM
In the case of sports and professional teams the basic principle that these national organizations conduct their activities for the purpose of sports betting is quite simple. A person is sure of some outcome of an event and decides to place a bet, after which he pays and receives a receipt if he wins he goes back to the book and accepts his victories no matter how much we are inclined towards sports or otherwise whatever we are we cannot escape the top influence of the sports world. Every country has a sport for which they are best known be it baseball basketball football or hockey many miss their matches for cheating.
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April 20, 2021, 08:14:11 PM
this is what a low quality rigged match looks like, i believe that a lot of sports and even professionnel teams and athletes rig some matches, and we probably saw it live and we were like "how did he miss something like that ?" when it actually was intentional, i actually thought that WWE fights were real when i was young, and i know a lot of people who were arguing whether it was real or they just follow scenario, if they didn't Exaggerate in their fights and scenarios, people would not find out that it's fake, and they would only have some doubts.
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April 20, 2021, 06:16:40 PM
So this means the issue i have read in the past thread here about NBA having this same issue is true? Yeah this was from Philippines and Asia so even in Europe and America and even all the continental basketball has this rigging issue?

I am starting to Hate basketball now because of this case and the respect from the league and official is starting to fail now.

It was common, even at any sports. What's the big deal in terms of feeling towards the sports? Almost all sports have a rigged history.

If you are hating basketball just because of that then I think you are just a passerby at that sports and not really watching or following it.
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