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Quote from: Silberman on May 04, 2021, 03:15:05 PM

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

They will not feel that as they are ready to any consequence the moment they participate with such kind of activities,.

Those people who engage themselves from rigging games are desperate to earned in a much quicker ways, there are many events that rumors spread

with small and big leagues, but due to the process rumors remain as it is, unlike now where evidence and actions
coming from the organizers really take charges.

We can not know what they think about corrupting and rigging in sports but if they can realize that what they did is wrong, maybe they will stop doing that as they already got the income from the government.
The desperate will happen to the low-level officers because they really need money, especially in this pandemic so they use the shortcut to earn more money from corruption.
We only hope that the players will not just think about the money and earn more money by doing corruption because that can end their career anytime and not have a chance to become bigger.

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Quote from: Fatunad on April 29, 2021, 05:59:32 PM

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They should really be careful but honestly why would they really make out rigged games if they can actually make money legally? ~

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

The reason why we see the problem of rigging games more commonly in a league or sport that does not generate a lot of money is precisely because of that, the money, however someone that is powerful enough can rig games of the highest caliber, for example in the sport of baseball there has been many incidents in which even the World Series is believed to be rigged and many other instances in which this was corroborated so I would not be surprised if this keeps happening all over the world.

Somethings behind about those rigging games on World cup or tourneys is something that has really the money to do so.This isnt talking about small amounts but multi-millions
which those players or management do really agreed upon because they do know on how much they would benefit out but i dont believe that it would be applicable for anybody
due to some ego issues but when we do already talk about big amounts then this is where the story starts.

Rigging games is everywhere and some of them is undetectable and believing that they are indeed real gameplays without any mix of being rigged .

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Quote from: blockman on May 04, 2021, 06:02:34 PM

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

Not only the management but also some players are choosing to take the risk and rig the game because they've seen money in their front. That's why even if the league isn't that low level, there are some players that have been taken due to greed and thought of the additional money that they shall receive in exchange of their pride and dignity as a professional player.

The players just chose to end their career early. I hope those who are asked to rig the game knows that the game they are participating in has a possible underground betting between someone or organizations and it could be pretty big bets giving the fact that the game is getting rigged. Being blinded by money is one of the downfalls of many athletes, Many careers have been thorned because of the involvement of money in a game.

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Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

Not only the management but also some players are choosing to take the risk and rig the game because they've seen money in their front. That's why even if the league isn't that low level, there are some players that have been taken due to greed and thought of the additional money that they shall receive in exchange of their pride and dignity as a professional player.

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Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

I don't think it's fair to accused the VisMin management of corruption without any proof. It you researched and take a backread on the posts above you can see that it's the management that stopped the game as they noticed something was wrong in that game which was very obvious.

I do agree with Betwrong that Honesty has become profitable nowadays and you could see in some casinos that advertises Fairness in their sites to lure costumers.

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Quote from: Fatunad on April 29, 2021, 05:59:32 PM

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They should really be careful but honestly why would they really make out rigged games if they can actually make money legally? ~

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

The reason why we see the problem of rigging games more commonly in a league or sport that does not generate a lot of money is precisely because of that, the money, however someone that is powerful enough can rig games of the highest caliber, for example in the sport of baseball there has been many incidents in which even the World Series is believed to be rigged and many other instances in which this was corroborated so I would not be surprised if this keeps happening all over the world.

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Quote from: traderethereum on May 04, 2021, 12:40:53 PM

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

They will not feel that as they are ready to any consequence the moment they participate with such kind of activities,.

Those people who engage themselves from rigging games are desperate to earned in a much quicker ways, there are many events that rumors spread

with small and big leagues, but due to the process rumors remain as it is, unlike now where evidence and actions
coming from the organizers really take charges.

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Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

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Quote from: Fatunad on April 29, 2021, 05:59:32 PM

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

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They should really be careful but honestly why would they really make out rigged games if they can actually make money legally? ~

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 28, 2021, 07:07:33 PM

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 27, 2021, 08:54:17 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 29, 2021, 01:25:32 PM

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

I can't disagree with you on that. Indeed playing fair is profitable in the long run, and civilized people know this fact and don't try to rig the games. However, if we think of why it is profitable, it is because once you've got caught cheating - you are out of the business. And the likelihood of being caught has increased sharply with advanced technologies.

We know that rigging games happens however many people are just as good as society demands from them, if the penalties for rigging games are too small then players will rig games knowing the consequences are small in the case they are caught, and if the league does not have the resources or the interest to investigate this then the chances for rigged games go up, this is why there should not be any kid of tolerance for incidents like this as it only generates more corruption in the sport if it is tolerated.

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

It is a good thing since this brings awareness but it seems that they do not understand how damaging this is for them and the rest of the industries that depends on sports, think about sports bets, people love to bet on sports but they do it under the premise that both teams are looking to win no matter what, when that premise is broken then the odds of the casino are meaningless and now it becomes impossible to try to predict which team will win as one of them is not interested in a positive result at all.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 29, 2021, 08:57:47 AM

Quote from: Fatunad on April 28, 2021, 07:18:24 PM

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You wouldnt know unless if the fans or the people whose seeing it would able to notice or simply tells that you can point out that theyre rigged when its happening but if its not then
there's no way that a potential match could really be rigged later on thats why we do make out our conclusions basing on real events or experience.Rigging is already bit known
but only on smaller leagues and cant really much seen on big or higher tiers leagues because they wouldnt risk out on getting caught
because they do know on what would be the consequences next.

True that. And what I like about this situation the most is that we don't have to rely on honesty of those organizations. What we can rely on is the fear of being caught and the high probability of being caught in cheating with the current technologies.

The said fear that being created after this exposed will warn everyone who are involve to this kind of illegal activities inside the league. They are being eyed and monitored.

The domino effects will increased the vissibilities, fans and all league officials are eyeing to catch out more people who still dealing with sports rigging.

We will see more and this is not the last of hearing this kind of events inside any sports leauge.

They should really be careful but honestly why would they really make out rigged games if they can actually make money legally? Or they are just too greedy
and finding other source of income or revenue which is more that they do earn on that typical contracts or some sort.Of course once there's one had already been
busted then expect that they would really be watched and monitored specially if there are recent issues about rigging.Officials would surely be keen on finding
possible next situation that might happen next.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 29, 2021, 08:57:47 AM

Quote from: Fatunad on April 28, 2021, 07:18:24 PM

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You wouldnt know unless if the fans or the people whose seeing it would able to notice or simply tells that you can point out that theyre rigged when its happening but if its not then
there's no way that a potential match could really be rigged later on thats why we do make out our conclusions basing on real events or experience.Rigging is already bit known
but only on smaller leagues and cant really much seen on big or higher tiers leagues because they wouldnt risk out on getting caught
because they do know on what would be the consequences next.

True that. And what I like about this situation the most is that we don't have to rely on honesty of those organizations. What we can rely on is the fear of being caught and the high probability of being caught in cheating with the current technologies.

The said fear that being created after this exposed will warn everyone who are involve to this kind of illegal activities inside the league. They are being eyed and monitored.

The domino effects will increased the vissibilities, fans and all league officials are eyeing to catch out more people who still dealing with sports rigging.

We will see more and this is not the last of hearing this kind of events inside any sports leauge.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 28, 2021, 07:07:33 PM

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

Maybe the other leagues that do not have a bigger audience will not find rigging, but we do not know for sure because the public will not see the rigging or corruption. It is hidden from the public but it is real and it is happening without we can see it. Maybe if we want to bet on those sports, we need to search for the other info to find more about the game and maybe we will know if the sports are not rigged.

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Quote from: Fatunad on April 28, 2021, 07:18:24 PM

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You wouldnt know unless if the fans or the people whose seeing it would able to notice or simply tells that you can point out that theyre rigged when its happening but if its not then
there's no way that a potential match could really be rigged later on thats why we do make out our conclusions basing on real events or experience.Rigging is already bit known
but only on smaller leagues and cant really much seen on big or higher tiers leagues because they wouldnt risk out on getting caught
because they do know on what would be the consequences next.

True that. And what I like about this situation the most is that we don't have to rely on honesty of those organizations. What we can rely on is the fear of being caught and the high probability of being caught in cheating with the current technologies.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 28, 2021, 07:07:33 PM

Quote from: Silberman on April 28, 2021, 04:23:24 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on April 27, 2021, 08:54:17 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on April 23, 2021, 01:01:00 PM

Quote from: Silberman on April 28, 2021, 04:23:24 PM

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

I can't disagree with you on that. Indeed playing fair is profitable in the long run, and civilized people know this fact and don't try to rig the games. However, if we think of why it is profitable, it is because once you've got caught cheating - you are out of the business. And the likelihood of being caught has increased sharply with advanced technologies.

We know that rigging games happens however many people are just as good as society demands from them, if the penalties for rigging games are too small then players will rig games knowing the consequences are small in the case they are caught, and if the league does not have the resources or the interest to investigate this then the chances for rigged games go up, this is why there should not be any kid of tolerance for incidents like this as it only generates more corruption in the sport if it is tolerated.

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

You wouldnt know unless if the fans or the people whose seeing it would able to notice or simply tells that you can point out that theyre rigged when its happening but if its not then
there's no way that a potential match could really be rigged later on thats why we do make out our conclusions basing on real events or experience.Rigging is already bit known
but only on smaller leagues and cant really much seen on big or higher tiers leagues because they wouldnt risk out on getting caught
because they do know on what would be the consequences next.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 27, 2021, 08:54:17 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on April 23, 2021, 01:01:00 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on April 27, 2021, 08:54:17 AM

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

I can't disagree with you on that. Indeed playing fair is profitable in the long run, and civilized people know this fact and don't try to rig the games. However, if we think of why it is profitable, it is because once you've got caught cheating - you are out of the business. And the likelihood of being caught has increased sharply with advanced technologies.

We know that rigging games happens however many people are just as good as society demands from them, if the penalties for rigging games are too small then players will rig games knowing the consequences are small in the case they are caught, and if the league does not have the resources or the interest to investigate this then the chances for rigged games go up, this is why there should not be any kid of tolerance for incidents like this as it only generates more corruption in the sport if it is tolerated.

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 23, 2021, 01:01:00 PM