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legendary
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April 20, 2021, 04:45:54 PM
#99
I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed?

No need for much professional look on this as even a grade school kid won't buy those intentional and obvious rigged plays.

Try to watch a video for satisfaction. VisMin Cup is a professional basketball league in the Philippines and it's not easy to be drafted at these leagues so you shouldn't see players having unusual worst plays. They are even much worst compared to players from street bastketball who do anything just to win a reward of 1 ice water or 1L of softdrinks as an example.
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April 20, 2021, 03:10:26 PM
#98
I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.
Even the announcers have thought that those free throws were just unlucky shots and not intentionally shot to miss. It wasn't the referees that have predicted that this match was rigged.
But it was the upper ops, the officials of the league, and the organization for basketball for the country that have a verdict that the match was rigged.
Referees doesnt need to predict because they are the ones who can directly tell if that gameplay is shit/intentional or just purely unlucky.We arent blind on not to notice things up
specially if its an obvious one.There no need on telling on whose the one who had been able to notice it out but rather all the community no matter what positions they do have
until the very bottom where fans can even tell on their own basing on what they are currently seeing.Rigging games on small leagues are bit common
but this one is just way too obvious.
Everyone has noticed that not only the referees but even in the bare eyes of the fans, it's obvious that they're playing useless with those free throws.
Looks like those players are like kids that don't have enough stamina and note that they're well trained and paid for playing.
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April 20, 2021, 02:57:30 PM
#97
Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Honestly, it's always happened in local small leagues so it wasn't new to everyone's vocabulary. Since it's not broadcasted in local news, it doesn't come to public attention much. Even the yearly league starting from mosquito to senior division at each barangays always has flaws and there's nothing we can do about that.

As for the thread's subject, I don't know what on earth they are doing as it's obvious that they are in one of the professional leagues in the country, and games are recorded and televised but still push their act to rig the game. Penalties are already handed but I'm one of those who don't agree that those enough. That was highly illegal to the point that the law related to it was amended several times IIRC.
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April 20, 2021, 02:37:11 PM
#96
I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.
Even the announcers have thought that those free throws were just unlucky shots and not intentionally shot to miss. It wasn't the referees that have predicted that this match was rigged.
But it was the upper ops, the officials of the league, and the organization for basketball for the country that have a verdict that the match was rigged.
Referees doesnt need to predict because they are the ones who can directly tell if that gameplay is shit/intentional or just purely unlucky.We arent blind on not to notice things up
specially if its an obvious one.There no need on telling on whose the one who had been able to notice it out but rather all the community no matter what positions they do have
until the very bottom where fans can even tell on their own basing on what they are currently seeing.Rigging games on small leagues are bit common
but this one is just way too obvious.
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April 20, 2021, 02:08:06 PM
#95
I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.
Even the announcers have thought that those free throws were just unlucky shots and not intentionally shot to miss. It wasn't the referees that have predicted that this match was rigged.
But it was the upper ops, the officials of the league, and the organization for basketball for the country that have a verdict that the match was rigged.
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April 20, 2021, 09:15:58 AM
#94
So this means the issue i have read in the past thread here about NBA having this same issue is true? Yeah this was from Philippines and Asia so even in Europe and America and even all the continental basketball has this rigging issue?

I am starting to Hate basketball now because of this case and the respect from the league and official is starting to fail now.
I think we still do not know for sure and we guess on that. If that issue is real, I am sure some people will hide that from the media and not let the public know. It could happen in many countries as we know that greedy people will be in all countries. That will be a hard job for clean officers to investigate the case and they need some time to reveal the right case. I am sure they will do the right thing to clean the mess and they will not let the rigging happen in many sports.
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April 20, 2021, 06:19:57 AM
#93
I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.

Video clip below is attached in the OP, kindly take a look at that and you will realized that it does not need an expert or skilled observer to noticed that there is something wrong going on. The organizers don't mind if online betting bookies are covering their games as long as it is played honestly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwma0Qs2-ck
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April 20, 2021, 05:33:46 AM
#92
I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.
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April 20, 2021, 04:49:49 AM
#91
First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.
They must be salute and Give rewards because they are the reason why this case being broadcasted and surely will be the basis of the investigation from now on.
Of course they will be reward and gain more trust around the world.



Yups this is the real Hero of the Basketball and all sports league , all of the sports maybe facing the same thing (THough many has not been broadcasted  and alarmed ) but the thing is Referees must be the one to be awarded and be given a attention because nothing than everyone is they knew the game and they knew if there is something fishy happening in each games.
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April 20, 2021, 04:06:28 AM
#90
So this means the issue i have read in the past thread here about NBA having this same issue is true? Yeah this was from Philippines and Asia so even in Europe and America and even all the continental basketball has this rigging issue?

I am starting to Hate basketball now because of this case and the respect from the league and official is starting to fail now.
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April 20, 2021, 03:31:11 AM
#89
From what I have heard, the players involved also got suspended which is a good action because if these people do not go unpunished, the culture of rigging in sports will continue, good thing that this is an isolated case but I know that there is a bigger picture behind.
They should really be punished. Because if they won't be punished, they'll just do it again and they're confident that they can put the league's policy into their hands.
But they got it wrong and they have to respect the league and it's their bread and butter that many are dreaming to be part and they're lucky to be with it and they shouldn't waste it.
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April 20, 2021, 02:55:06 AM
#88
Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.
I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.

This could happen anywhere in the world and the Philippines is not exempted with this kind of scandal and in fact this is not the first that this happen in the Philippines though this one is too obvious.

MPBL, which is own by Manny Pacquiao has it's own share of rigging too but that one is not too obvious and but still they are investigated and DOJ will be filing complaints against those who are involved.

I have talked to the brother of the one involved (happen to be my third cousin), they have the denied the accusation and said that as far as they are concern (Lapu-Lapu team), there was no rigging and what happened was just the result of the opponents not willing to score and they felt offended by that. If they knew that it was rigged then they would not do such bad acting as it's too obvious that everybody will notice that something fishy is happening.
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April 19, 2021, 02:00:44 PM
#87
Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.
I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.

It's an insult as majorities from those who watch this videos are annoyed with this obvious fixed game activities. Professionals who loves this sport are really showing their disappointment even those who are in the other league express how bad the image of this sport is being compromised.

Without appropriate action those who are still supporting fixed gaming will continue doing their stuff, there's should be more strict laws that will implement to lessen this if the possibilities of completely dissolving this kind activities can't be done.
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April 19, 2021, 01:32:33 PM
#86
Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.
If the match was fixed then they should get a life time ban as it is not just disrespect to the fans spending their time thinking it is a fair game and then getting cheated and the millions waged on matches.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.
Match fixing is not new and it is going on for decades and we only hear about these when some high profile players are caught in some sting operation and rarely we dissect matches and think that they could be fixed. I have lost a lot of money to unexpected upsets in the past one year, some of the matches i felt fishy but we have no authority to know those.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.
Match fixing is possible but what i do not agree is that these fixed matches will be sold online and if anyone says that to you that they have hundred percent fixed matches then they are lying.
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April 19, 2021, 01:26:00 PM
#85
Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.
I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.
Those who are responsible will only be punish, not the entire organization or the league, but they'll have a bad reputation. Actually it's wise if the refs were the ones rigging the game, not the players as its too obvious. We have a lot of conspiracy theory in NBA too, but it was never proven that rigging happened.

If there was any rigging in NBA, they know how to be discreet.
But this one, was very obvious. They just signed their soon-to-be-end of career, if the basketball association will be strict about it.
I don't know what they are thinking here. But what they did was really a disappointment.
I know they worked hard to be in that league but they jeopardized it all in that game. Sadly.
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April 19, 2021, 12:22:47 PM
#84
A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.


Wow, that is shockingly bad play from the green team, they didn't show much action from the yellow team - is that because they never got control of the ball? If this is the standard of major league basketball in the Philippines then there is clearly some cheating going on. Was there ever any follow up actions by the PBA because it would seem to put the whole league into question? It's bordering on criminal considering the amount of money that will be at stake during such sports, you'd think the government might even step in to take action at that point. The weak shot at 56 seconds in might be acceptable once in a whole game, but they consistently threw off target.
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April 19, 2021, 08:59:35 AM
#83
Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.
I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.
Those who are responsible will only be punish, not the entire organization or the league, but they'll have a bad reputation. Actually it's wise if the refs were the ones rigging the game, not the players as its too obvious. We have a lot of conspiracy theory in NBA too, but it was never proven that rigging happened.
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April 19, 2021, 08:01:30 AM
#82
Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.
I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.
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April 19, 2021, 07:23:10 AM
#81
Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.
From what I have heard, the players involved also got suspended which is a good action because if these people do not go unpunished, the culture of rigging in sports will continue, good thing that this is an isolated case but I know that there is a bigger picture behind.
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April 19, 2021, 05:57:45 AM
#80
My concern is how often are riggers caught really. Unless they make obvious mistakes, it is very difficult to tell if a player, for example, missed a shot intentionally. It is just not impossible that a player underperforms in a game just because he has a bad day and even if you are suspicious it is very difficult to prove. Soccer is even more difficult in that aspect. Are these blunders? They could be on-purpose.



But on that particular video or game, even if you are thinking that they are not trying to fix the game, it will cross your mind because it is so obvious, it will make you think, why a player that tall with very near the basket will still not convert the shot and on one occasion a player driving to the basket intentionally miss it, it's not that they are having a bad day, even if a player is not in a good condition he can convert a layup because there is no opposition to block him.

Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.
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