An obvious rigging of Sports. - page 11.

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Quote from: maydna on April 18, 2021, 01:10:44 AM

The manipulation can happen in that game, and while we are still at the pandemic, not many people will watch the match so that they can do that.

You mean when more number of people will be watching and when first level of people will be playing then there will be the less chances for manipulation? I don't think so. Even international players are getting corrupted these days hence fixed matches can happen at any level these days.

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in order to have a deterrent effect, a very severe punishment must be given.

I guess there should be enough laws against match fixing at all counties and for all sports but they might seek conclusive evidence rather than one time incident of under-performance.

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I have been aware of this for a long time, because it has even happened several times and it has been proven that there was fraud in the match. Therefore the government has a special team to deal with things like this, but for me a sports gambler at least to anticipate this I only bet on the big leagues in each country, because only then at least cheating in sports can be minimized. Although indeed, there are still no guarantees associated with this case and I realize it is a risk.

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I've heard about this news before and it was really disappointing that there are people who will do things like that just for the sake of money. Those people shouldn't involve themselves in sports anymore because they aren't playing fairly which is disrespectful for society and the basketball community.

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Quote from: hulla on April 17, 2021, 12:59:58 PM

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

That's one positive thing with this scandal. The organizers were quick to noticed that the game was rigged or this something fishy about it. I may say that whoever had the intention of rigging the games did not succeed as the game was stopped.

As what i've said in my previous post (other thread), only one team knows that the game were to be rigged and the other just poorly handled the situation but still they are liable for their actions. Rigged games were supposed not to be played that way, very obvious and even the not so fan of basketball can notice the anomalies.

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They're like kids playing basketball. Lol Its funny very scripted game, seems they're playing for nothing like a free match ..." No rebounds no serious shots" what the heck is that? in NBA actually sometimes i see that they are doing the same scene during ALLSTAR game which they got bored sometimes but when they released the ball it always get in in the basket.. But this kind of gamplay seems very disappointing.. Its like someone forcing them to play basketball.. if this always happened in such game/event.. Perhaps watching cartoons is a good idea. Lmao

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I Hate reading this kind of stuff because this ruin my believe in basketball that i used to be Loved for lifetime.

I love watching the fairness and specially the momentum of the game in the last 5 minutes.

But this news? F*CK the involved in this fixing and They must be gone in the basketball industry because they will end the career of every basketball players in the philippines.

Quote from: hulla on April 17, 2021, 12:59:58 PM

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

They must be salute and Give rewards because they are the reason why this case being broadcasted and surely will be the basis of the investigation from now on.

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Quote from: acroman08 on April 18, 2021, 04:36:06 AM

if someone will file a case against them then they could be criminally charged. this(link below) article was just recently released and the players connected to the game-fixing 2019 Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League(MBPL) has been criminally charged. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens to the recent scandal on VisMin Cup.

https://sports.inquirer.net/420748/cracking-the-whip

Game fixing should have no place in a game very much loved by the Filipinos, any player who are found guilty should be ban forever, the fans and the paying public only deserves the best, it's very unfortunate that it happen in a league managed by Manny Pacquiao, who love the game of basketball so much, they should be ashamed of themselves, they have a job when it's very hard to find a job now as a basketball player.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 16, 2021, 08:00:45 AM

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

The Most Stupid Issue i ever heard in Basketball and this is happening to the Philippines ? Yeah they are not that wise and obviously showing their BS actions.

No wonder why Basketball is becoming lessen and lessen to be popular not like back in 1970's to early 2000

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 18, 2021, 01:08:29 AM

Quote from: Wexnident on April 18, 2021, 12:53:52 AM

Ok, that was such a huge disrespect for the game and for the viewers. I don't know how to play Basketball but I swear I'd put more effort than them at that point. They aren't even hiding it ngl, it's blatantly obvious. I mean, even a team that bloody played for 2,3 hours straight wouldn't be THAT bad. I'm just glad that the refs stopped the game midway, like holy even I as a viewer online would bloody stop watching, call it a day, and hope that it was just a dream.

Man, sports ethics have gone to be so low with some teams that it just feels so... odd? Out of place? Like idk, it lost that simple common sense value that we all hold. I'm pretty sure they themselves could realize how stupid they looked.

The league made a thorough review and concluded that it was an obvious fixed games.
Suspensions and fines has been issued upon the players, but I'm not satisfied with the weight of the sanction, It seems a bit lighter than it's supposed to be. I mean these guys are fraud.
I don't have any idea how much money they'll supposed to get from the online bettors If they have successfully rigged the game.

if someone will file a case against them then they could be criminally charged. this(link below) article was just recently released and the players connected to the game-fixing 2019 Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League(MBPL) has been criminally charged. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens to the recent scandal on VisMin Cup.

https://sports.inquirer.net/420748/cracking-the-whip

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on April 18, 2021, 02:40:15 AM

I don't know if this is true but I have a theory that there are some authorities that are ordering these players to fix it because of their bet thus, we saw games like this from them.
For me, these players aren't professional at all because they can sacrifice their careers just for the sake of these stupid rich people. These players are playing not for their career but for the people who are betting. Blackmailing maybe is being used to them just to play like this but.. I don't know.

It's true, you can easily tell that they are fixing the game, they intentionally miss those shots and they are playing as if they don't care about scoring a long time basketball spectators can easily tell that they are trying to manipulate the game they do not want to win the game and they want to give the game to the other team, if these players are being blackmailed then they should tell the governing officials or they will be banished forever from playing in any league.

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That one time they say the game is rigged because a player's free throw was very unusual but apparently I think there is an investigation that is on its way to certain officials and management of this event, and if this kind of event is proven Rigged then surely there are punishments to the people that involve and commit this kind of thing and the Philippine Basketball Association will not tolerate such kind of act.

The person that did the free throw was already suspended for the whole season and will be fine 15,000 Pesos but I think there is a lot more behind this kind of controversy that needs to be dealt with not just one person to be there scapegoat.

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Quote from: Lucius on April 16, 2021, 08:44:04 AM

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

I don't know if this is true but I have a theory that there are some authorities that are ordering these players to fix it because of their bet thus, we saw games like this from them.
For me, these players aren't professional at all because they can sacrifice their career just for the sake of these stupid rich people. These players are playing not for their career but for the people who are betting. Blackmailing maybe is being used to them just to play like this but.. I don't know.

Now with regards to game fixing here in our country, I believe that there are some instances that there are games that are being fixed but not as obvious as this one. Even the players from the opposing team felt that they are being toyed just because of how unprofessional these players are. I'm expecting more of these in our country in the future and possible in some other countries too.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 16, 2021, 08:00:45 AM

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Fixed games are everywhere Shocked

. Individual gamblers like you and me cannot do anything about that. Gambling industry is already a billion dollar worthy one hence bigshots are trying to fish out it by their own way. When they already have big money then they easily convince players to play like how they want final results as guessing results based on skills of players is too difficult for anyone but manipulation is the easiest way for them to profit from betting.

I remember a betting on one of famous crypto platform here. That betting was first half of the match and someone placed bet for zero goals for bet amount around 15 BTCs and the team did not score any goal and then they won around 30 BTC and I lost around 0.1 BTC. The way it looked definitely a fixed one and after that I lost my interest on sportsbetting slowly.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 16, 2021, 08:00:45 AM

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Yes I believe there are a lot of fixed games, but based on what I saw on the video, they are blatantly showing that they are fixing the game, I did not finish watching the videos, this video can be classified as a tutorial on how to fix a basketball game, it's ugly they have done it in a bad taste and they have made a mockery of the tournament, glad that the league officers have taken action on this.

There are lots of game fixing but this one was obvious and really desperate.

This kind of players didn't deserve any respect, ruining the game that most young generations loves is not a good practice, for those
who watch and learn about this game fixing types of action, it's so clear that from how they organize this game everything is being
fixed, the result is already known before the final buzzer.

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There is more reason why they do that thing, and we can only guess it.

But it is no surprise to see if in a sports game something will happen. Perhaps, they want to give a reality show in the sports game, but unfortunately, that ruins the reputation of the game itself. The manipulation can happen in that game, and while we are still at the pandemic, not many people will watch the match so that they can do that.

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Quote from: Wexnident on April 18, 2021, 12:53:52 AM

Ok, that was such a huge disrespect for the game and for the viewers. I don't know how to play Basketball but I swear I'd put more effort than them at that point. They aren't even hiding it ngl, it's blatantly obvious. I mean, even a team that bloody played for 2,3 hours straight wouldn't be THAT bad. I'm just glad that the refs stopped the game midway, like holy even I as a viewer online would bloody stop watching, call it a day, and hope that it was just a dream.

Man, sports ethics have gone to be so low with some teams that it just feels so... odd? Out of place? Like idk, it lost that simple common sense value that we all hold. I'm pretty sure they themselves could realize how stupid they looked.

The league made a thorough review and concluded that it was an obvious fixed games.
Suspensions and fines has been issued upon the players, but I'm not satisfied with the weight of the sanction, It seems a bit lighter than it's supposed to be. I mean these guys are fraud.
I don't have any idea how much money they'll supposed to get from the online bettors If they have successfully rigged the game.

Quote from: Twinkledoe on April 18, 2021, 12:31:51 AM

Don't know what they are thinking here for being so obvious considering that their career is at stake.

Of course they know what are the consequences once they are caught red handed. Their professional basketball license are currently in danger for revocation.
Maybe they're good at basketball, but they're not good at acting like they don't know the game. So, this unfortunate things happened to them.

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Ok, that was such a huge disrespect for the game and for the viewers. I don't know how to play Basketball but I swear I'd put more effort than them at that point. They aren't even hiding it ngl, it's blatantly obvious. I mean, even a team that bloody played for 2,3 hours straight wouldn't be THAT bad. I'm just glad that the refs stopped the game midway, like holy even I as a viewer online would bloody stop watching, call it a day, and hope that it was just a dream.

Man, sports ethics have gone to be so low with some teams that it just feels so... odd? Out of place? Like idk, it lost that simple common sense value that we all hold. I'm pretty sure they themselves could realize how stupid they looked.

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Quote from: smyslov on April 18, 2021, 12:07:26 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on April 16, 2021, 08:00:45 AM

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Yes I believe there are a lot of fixed games, but based on what I saw on the video, they are blatantly showing that they are fixing the game, I did not finish watching the videos, this video can be classified as a tutorial on how to fix a basketball game, it's ugly they have done it in a bad taste and they have made a mockery of the tournament, glad that the league officers have taken action on this.

The title should be - How to easily get caught rigging a game. Grin

Viewers are not dumb. Don't know what they are thinking here for being so obvious considering that their career is at stake. Maybe, they thought people will just be silent about it because it is still pandemic. Hope they will get the necessary punishment for ruining the reputation of the game.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 16, 2021, 08:00:45 AM

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Yes I believe there are a lot of fixed games, but based on what I saw on the video, they are blatantly showing that they are fixing the game, I did not finish watching the videos, this video can be classified as a tutorial on how to fix a basketball game, it's ugly they have done it in a bad taste and they have made a mockery of the tournament, glad that the league officers have taken action on this.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 16, 2021, 08:00:45 AM

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

This is the first time I've seen this kind of game, players do not care on defense and on making a point, it's obviously rigged and they do not even know how to rig a game, look on how they play they making a fool of everyone and even themselves, they think they can get away on something that is pretty obvious, if I am a league commissioner or a team manager I would not even think of hiring these players.

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