@estenity. What would give the Aeon community some assurance that the attacker is not looking at our project as another one of their targets?
I reckon the reorgs done last year which caused Cryptopia to delist us was an effort to double spend, however much harder to verify in cryptonote coins.
Topic: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] - page 36. (Read 625654 times)
December 11, 2018, 08:22:32 PM
December 10, 2018, 09:44:11 PM
Please discuss Aeon integration with AtomicWallet platform:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a52kd6/aeon_integration_with_atomicwallet_multiasset/
also discussions of aeon integration into CryptoBridge Decentralized Exchange:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a4o4u9/community_interest_in_aeon_listing_on/
I have not created AFS proposals yet for either of these.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a52kd6/aeon_integration_with_atomicwallet_multiasset/
also discussions of aeon integration into CryptoBridge Decentralized Exchange:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a4o4u9/community_interest_in_aeon_listing_on/
I have not created AFS proposals yet for either of these.
December 10, 2018, 08:59:31 PM
Why do you care about "investors"? Surely people that use the coin are far more important than "investors".
Why do I care about investors? Investors are holders. If Aeon has more holders, it will have a bigger community, if it has a bigger community, it will have a bigger chance of success.
I feel like a lot of "investors" don't take part in the community. They just hold on to their coins expecting to make a profit, they don't purchase things with the coins, don't accept the coins as payment, don't participate in the community etc.
Finally, the hashrate itself isn't too important. The Monero network at 500 MH/s would be much more secure than the Bitcoin network at 500 MH/s. One has millions of computer securing it, and the other one has a single 5 year old GPU.
Also, a higher hashrate secures Aeon and that is very important. Maybe you did not hear the news about the Asic resistant coin, Vertcoin?Sorry, I think you misunderstood what I said (or more likely, I just explained it poorly). The hashrate itself doesn't matter, what matters is how difficult it is for some hostile entity to get a significant percentage of the network hashrate.
There is still more chance of having a bigger community if there are more holders or trapped bagholders hehehe.
Is it really more difficult for GPU farms that can transfer mining from coin to coin to attack Aeon? How does that argument justify what occured with Vertcoin?
citation begins:
In a textbook 51 percent attack documented in a blog post by Coinbase security engineer Mark Nesbitt, someone seized majority control of the Vertcoin network’s hashing power to conduct multiple “reorgs” of the blockchain. The attacker essentially rewrote part of the ledger’s history and then, using their dominant hashing power to produce the longest chain, convinced the rest of the miners to validate this new version of the blockchain. With that, he or she could commit the ultimate crypto crime: a double-spend of prior transactions, leaving earlier payees holding invalidated coins.
https://www.coindesk.com/vertcoins-struggle-is-everyones-struggle
December 10, 2018, 08:09:30 PM
Why do you care about "investors"? Surely people that use the coin are far more important than "investors".
Why do I care about investors? Investors are holders. If Aeon has more holders, it will have a bigger community, if it has a bigger community, it will have a bigger chance of success.
I feel like a lot of "investors" don't take part in the community. They just hold on to their coins expecting to make a profit, they don't purchase things with the coins, don't accept the coins as payment, don't participate in the community etc.
Finally, the hashrate itself isn't too important. The Monero network at 500 MH/s would be much more secure than the Bitcoin network at 500 MH/s. One has millions of computer securing it, and the other one has a single 5 year old GPU.
Also, a higher hashrate secures Aeon and that is very important. Maybe you did not hear the news about the Asic resistant coin, Vertcoin?Sorry, I think you misunderstood what I said (or more likely, I just explained it poorly). The hashrate itself doesn't matter, what matters is how difficult it is for some hostile entity to get a significant percentage of the network hashrate.
There is still more chance of having a bigger community if there are more holders or trapped bagholders hehehe.
Is it really more difficult for GPU farms that can transfer mining from coin to coin to attack Aeon? How does that argument justify what occured with Vertcoin?
December 10, 2018, 02:32:50 PM
Aeon has had 4+ years for someone to attack it. When there were ASICS, they were centralized (or actually unknown origin since they were not mining in public pools for the most part) so it could be considered hostile. If asic owners would have spread their hash rates evenly on public pools like the botnets do, we may be having a different conversation.
Also, average Aeon user mining does not have $4000 for asic to mine with. Most have cpu, server cpu, or possibly one rig or just one gpu. How do you fairly distribute advanced mining equipment that only select individuals can afford?
Yes having 300Mh would help secure the network, but wouldn’t having 300mh of cpu/gpu mining be a more community friendly approach? That is the discussion aeon needs, especially since it would only take 100-150mh of XMR hash rate to achieve this.
Also, average Aeon user mining does not have $4000 for asic to mine with. Most have cpu, server cpu, or possibly one rig or just one gpu. How do you fairly distribute advanced mining equipment that only select individuals can afford?
Yes having 300Mh would help secure the network, but wouldn’t having 300mh of cpu/gpu mining be a more community friendly approach? That is the discussion aeon needs, especially since it would only take 100-150mh of XMR hash rate to achieve this.
December 10, 2018, 12:51:04 PM
Why do you care about "investors"? Surely people that use the coin are far more important than "investors".
Why do I care about investors? Investors are holders. If Aeon has more holders, it will have a bigger community, if it has a bigger community, it will have a bigger chance of success.
I feel like a lot of "investors" don't take part in the community. They just hold on to their coins expecting to make a profit, they don't purchase things with the coins, don't accept the coins as payment, don't participate in the community etc.
Finally, the hashrate itself isn't too important. The Monero network at 500 MH/s would be much more secure than the Bitcoin network at 500 MH/s. One has millions of computer securing it, and the other one has a single 5 year old GPU.
Also, a higher hashrate secures Aeon and that is very important. Maybe you did not hear the news about the Asic resistant coin, Vertcoin?Sorry, I think you misunderstood what I said (or more likely, I just explained it poorly). The hashrate itself doesn't matter, what matters is how difficult it is for some hostile entity to get a significant percentage of the network hashrate.
December 09, 2018, 07:28:38 PM
Why and what would be the advantages in upgrading the proof of work algorithm again? Will it reduce hashrate or increase it?
The goal was to brick existing ASIC miners. The advantage of this is that it keeps mining decentralised.
There was a comment on github that said that our hashrate doubled and so there will be more investors. If that was true then why did we change the proof of work algorithm to stop Asics?
Why do you care about "investors"? Surely people that use the coin are far more important than "investors".
Finally, the hashrate itself isn't too important. The Monero network at 500 MH/s would be much more secure than the Bitcoin network at 500 MH/s. One has millions of computer securing it, and the other one has a single 5 year old GPU.
Why do I care about investors? Investors are holders. If Aeon has more holders, it will have a bigger community, if it has a bigger community, it will have a bigger chance of success.
Also, a higher hashrate secures Aeon and that is very important. Maybe you did not hear the news about the Asic resistant coin, Vertcoin?
December 09, 2018, 03:28:50 PM
Community meeting wrap-up: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a3vk32/december_2018_community_meeting_wrapup/
removed. Do you intend to put it again ?
Link still works for me.
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Can community please discuss listing on exchanges and funding Fees for listing:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a4o4u9/community_interest_in_aeon_listing_on/
Also working on Binance tonight when I get some time.
December 09, 2018, 05:40:33 AM
Why and what would be the advantages in upgrading the proof of work algorithm again? Will it reduce hashrate or increase it?
The goal was to brick existing ASIC miners. The advantage of this is that it keeps mining decentralised.
There was a comment on github that said that our hashrate doubled and so there will be more investors. If that was true then why did we change the proof of work algorithm to stop Asics?
Why do you care about "investors"? Surely people that use the coin are far more important than "investors".
Finally, the hashrate itself isn't too important. The Monero network at 500 MH/s would be much more secure than the Bitcoin network at 500 MH/s. One has millions of computer securing it, and the other one has a single 5 year old GPU.
December 08, 2018, 08:35:11 PM
hello
can someone to send me invite to join in discord channel?
thank you
can someone to send me invite to join in discord channel?
thank you
yes: https://discord.gg/xWZ2z78
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Community meeting wrap-up: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a3vk32/december_2018_community_meeting_wrapup/
Why and what would be the advantages in upgrading the proof of work algorithm again? Will it reduce hashrate or increase it?
There was a comment on github that said that our hashrate doubled and so there will be more investors. If that was true then why did we change the proof of work algorithm to stop Asics?
December 07, 2018, 10:52:41 PM
Community meeting wrap-up: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a3vk32/december_2018_community_meeting_wrapup/
removed. Do you intend to put it again ?
December 06, 2018, 10:00:13 PM
hello
can someone to send me invite to join in discord channel?
thank you
can someone to send me invite to join in discord channel?
thank you
yes: https://discord.gg/xWZ2z78
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Community meeting wrap-up: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/a3vk32/december_2018_community_meeting_wrapup/
December 05, 2018, 12:31:57 PM
hello
can someone to send me invite to join in discord channel?
thank you
can someone to send me invite to join in discord channel?
thank you
December 05, 2018, 03:13:12 AM
GUI Release candidate (please test!)
We have a new release candidate GUI available for testing. Everything is merged to master. There are no binaries so you will have to compile it yourself (instructions are in the README).
Github repo: https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-gui
There is some sort of build issue for Windows (also applies to Monero) which is being discussed here: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/1559
We have a new release candidate GUI available for testing. Everything is merged to master. There are no binaries so you will have to compile it yourself (instructions are in the README).
Github repo: https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-gui
There is some sort of build issue for Windows (also applies to Monero) which is being discussed here: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/1559
December 04, 2018, 11:09:38 PM
thanks all who visited the community meeting tonight
December 04, 2018, 09:34:02 PM
@bigslimvdub. That was the original vision for Aeon. However, I reckon that has changed clearly because of the lack of developers working on the project. The best way forward is to be similar to what the litecoin development team is doing and be a close copy to Monero's codebase.
We the same technology on a slimmer blockchain.
Got it! Litecoin and Monero should be taken into deeply consideration for the way AEON team will develop the project.We the same technology on a slimmer blockchain.
Let's see how the team actually do this in the future.
December 04, 2018, 09:25:10 PM
@bigslimvdub. That was the original vision for Aeon. However, I reckon that has changed clearly because of the lack of developers working on the project. The best way forward is to be similar to what the litecoin development team is doing and be a close copy to Monero's codebase.
We the same technology on a slimmer blockchain.
We the same technology on a slimmer blockchain.
December 02, 2018, 04:25:18 PM
Has anyone seen ETN's nethash since they allowed asics? 3 gigahash of nethash. Literally, every asic is on that network. Good for them right? What are all those mobile miners doing? Nothing really but providing additional network security with another node.
AFAIK the ETN "mobile miner" was just a faucet.
IIRC yes, pretty much.
Side note, State of Aeon is out : https://medium.com/@AEON_Community/the-state-of-aeon-12-2-2018-e6c824847333
December 02, 2018, 04:14:48 PM
The development in the mobile area is slow/lacking simply because there is no one capable of it and willing to push hard for it. You're welcome to work on it, if you can.
Oh hi there, didn't know you were on BCT.
IIRC last time I tried, at least IOS was disabled in the GUI ./build.sh. Maybe im missing something. I also do not have Android but QT creator has Android port support. IIRC android was not disabled in the build.sh but it was a few months ago I checked. I know there are some android based bugs for monero gui currently.
December 01, 2018, 02:04:29 PM
Has anyone seen ETN's nethash since they allowed asics? 3 gigahash of nethash. Literally, every asic is on that network. Good for them right? What are all those mobile miners doing? Nothing really but providing additional network security with another node.
AFAIK the ETN "mobile miner" was just a faucet.
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