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Even now that all the circulating bitcoins doubled in matter of a single day, all the big whales have so much money but do you think even one of them would donate at least 5% of their free coins to a charity or just helping someone in need? I mean the universe (God) has provided you with a great opportunity, many are being tested right now.
If you had more than 1000 bitcoins at the time of split, please donate 50BCH to someone, this way you are showing your worth.
There might be people that will begin to do that though they might also be waiting for the increase of the price of Bitcoin Cash  because it's pretty low right now compared to how much the coin was when it was introduced within Bitcoin exchanges.
Also, there isn't that many people putting that many buy orders compared to the higher ranked coins so they may be waiting for its volume to go up some.

With all the news going around stating that the coin will receive a dump, I am pretty sure that the rich people will try to hold onto some BCC if it doesn't.
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When Rambo McFee and Chung Lee Wu point their wand at Bitcoin cash there will be an avalanche on one and tsunami on the other maybe?

I'd start that with IF instead of WHEN  Wink
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down she goes!! Death Spiral!! lol  Shocked
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Even now that all the circulating bitcoins doubled in matter of a single day, all the big whales have so much money but do you think even one of them would donate at least 5% of their free coins to a charity or just helping someone in need? I mean the universe (God) has provided you with a great opportunity, many are being tested right now.
If you had more than 1000 bitcoins at the time of split, please donate 50BCH to someone, this way you are showing your worth.
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When Rambo McFee and Chung Lee Wu point their wand at Bitcoin cash there will be an avalanche on one and tsunami on the other maybe?
legendary
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Whoever is dumping on bittrex. Do you not see the million dollar buy wall on kraken holding it up at $300? Pretty much this is the worst possible price to sell at lol. Best price to buy at. I'm in!  Cool
wtf, yokozuna...you troll lol

Well damn I like having a million dollar insurance policy that my trade wont drop below what I paid... lol You don't see that everyday. Ive watched that wall get hit too and its been there all night. If it cant go down, which way do you think it will go?
lol   Smiley

welcome to the family son
( prob for a few days hours before you turn lol )
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Whoever is dumping on bittrex. Do you not see the million dollar buy wall on kraken holding it up at $300? Pretty much this is the worst possible price to sell at lol. Best price to buy at. I'm in!  Cool
wtf, yokozuna...you troll lol

Well damn I like having a million dollar insurance policy that my trade wont drop below what I paid... lol You don't see that everyday. Ive watched that wall get hit too and its been there all night. If it cant go down, which way do you think it will go?
legendary
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Whoever is dumping on bittrex. Do you not see the million dollar buy wall on kraken holding it up at $300? Pretty much this is the worst possible price to sell at lol. Best price to buy at. I'm in!  Cool
wtf, yokozuna...you troll lol
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This forcing to list forked coins ..began with polo and etc.
The rest....BDN system...lols great idea..

end of the day, bcc is here to stay and will be worth alot more than its current value...(BDN or not lol)


You need to stop and reconsider that opinion because it is wrong, despite its popularity in low-to-mid-brow pleb venues like Reddit.

ETC is the original and thus *DEFENDING* chain under attack from the controversial Bailout Fork.

BTC is the original and thus *DEFENDING* chain under attack from the controversial Jihan/Ver/Garzik vanity fork.

You cannot validly compare Polo's continued (and legally obligatory) listing of the *DEFENDING* status quo ETC chain with other greedy exchanges listing the *ATTACKING* fork of Bcash.

ETC is opt-out; Bcash is opt-in.  Do you see the difference?

Coinbase had no business picking the winner in the ETC/ETH fight and Armstrong made a complete fool of himself by declaring the defending chain would simply Go Away Quickly because its persistence is inconvenient for Bailout Edition.

Polo was required to list ETC because it is not their place to decide on behalf of customers that the controversial and mutable Bailout Edition should supersede it.


lols...thats the btc maxmilists view on etc/eth...fair enough...but thats for another thread  Smiley


It's not a matter of opinion that ETC is the original Ethereum chain and ETH is the original modified with an opt-in controversial bailout for the DAO.

That's a matter of fact, indelibly written in the blockchain for all to see and verify.  You don't get to wave that historical fact away by characterizing it as mere BTC maximalist POV.

ETC is opt-out and Bcash is opt-in.  Please accept that aspect of objective/consensus reality and the rest of my conclusions, being logically entailed, follow naturally.

ETC and BTC are the default chains.  ETH and Bcash participation is opt-in, requiring affirmative commitment to the attacking chain.  So please stop using the stupid Redditard talking point about how exchanges must support Bcash because they supported ETC.  That idea reeks of false equivalence and Eternal September greedy noob ignorance.
Firstly, i hardly ever read this reddit lol
2nd , yes etc was the original chain, until the coin forked with community and dev consensus
, the only people saying dont fork eth, were the maximilists, and they decided to keep the old chain alive to teach eth a lesson.
What goes around comes around,lol
bcc is only alive because of the btc maximilists attitude towards eth lol
 i have prob 100 posts from the day etc was made on the etc forum and eth forum on why, im not repeating them all here.
imo etc is a dead chain, no innovation...nothing
3rd...when did i say any exchange must add anything??? , i said i dont care if they do!

 Smiley Smiley Smiley



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Whoever is dumping on bittrex. Do you not see the million dollar buy wall on kraken holding it up at $300? Pretty much this is the worst possible price to sell at lol. Best price to buy at. I'm in!  Cool
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

This forcing to list forked coins ..began with polo and etc.
The rest....BDN system...lols great idea..

end of the day, bcc is here to stay and will be worth alot more than its current value...(BDN or not lol)


You need to stop and reconsider that opinion because it is wrong, despite its popularity in low-to-mid-brow pleb venues like Reddit.

ETC is the original and thus *DEFENDING* chain under attack from the controversial Bailout Fork.

BTC is the original and thus *DEFENDING* chain under attack from the controversial Jihan/Ver/Garzik vanity fork.

You cannot validly compare Polo's continued (and legally obligatory) listing of the *DEFENDING* status quo ETC chain with other greedy exchanges listing the *ATTACKING* fork of Bcash.

ETC is opt-out; Bcash is opt-in.  Do you see the difference?

Coinbase had no business picking the winner in the ETC/ETH fight and Armstrong made a complete fool of himself by declaring the defending chain would simply Go Away Quickly because its persistence is inconvenient for Bailout Edition.

Polo was required to list ETC because it is not their place to decide on behalf of customers that the controversial and mutable Bailout Edition should supersede it.


lols...thats the btc maxmilists view on etc/eth...fair enough...but thats for another thread  Smiley


It's not a matter of opinion that ETC is the original Ethereum chain and ETH is the original modified with an opt-in controversial bailout for the DAO.

That's a matter of fact, indelibly written in the blockchain for all to see and verify.  You don't get to wave that historical fact away by characterizing it as mere BTC maximalist POV.

ETC is opt-out and Bcash is opt-in.  Please accept that aspect of objective/consensus reality and the rest of my conclusions, being logically entailed, follow naturally.

ETC and BTC are the default chains.  ETH and Bcash participation is opt-in, requiring affirmative commitment to the attacking chain.  So please stop using the stupid Redditard talking point about how exchanges must support Bcash because they supported ETC.  That idea reeks of false equivalence and Eternal September greedy noob ignorance.
legendary
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And what makes you think Bcash will be worth anything when we start using Disruption Nodes to flood active addresses with malleated tx, effectively paralyzing the network at the economic and protocol layers?

Since Bcash wants 8mb blocks so bad, I'm willing to spend all my airdropped JihanCoins making sure they get as many huge, difficult or impossible to validate blocks as possible.


How does one get on this distribution list for a disruption node? Asking for a friend. Grin
legendary
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This forcing to list forked coins ..began with polo and etc.
The rest....BDN system...lols great idea..

end of the day, bcc is here to stay and will be worth alot more than its current value...(BDN or not lol)


You need to stop and reconsider that opinion because it is wrong, despite its popularity in low-to-mid-brow pleb venues like Reddit.

ETC is the original and thus *DEFENDING* chain under attack from the controversial Bailout Fork.

BTC is the original and thus *DEFENDING* chain under attack from the controversial Jihan/Ver/Garzik vanity fork.

You cannot validly compare Polo's continued (and legally obligatory) listing of the *DEFENDING* status quo ETC chain with other greedy exchanges listing the *ATTACKING* fork of Bcash.

ETC is opt-out; Bcash is opt-in.  Do you see the difference?

Coinbase had no business picking the winner in the ETC/ETH fight and Armstrong made a complete fool of himself by declaring the defending chain would simply Go Away Quickly because its persistence is inconvenient for Bailout Edition.

Polo was required to list ETC because it is not their place to decide on behalf of customers that the controversial and mutable Bailout Edition should supersede it.

And what makes you think Bcash will be worth anything when we start using Disruption Nodes to flood active addresses with malleated tx, effectively paralyzing the network at the economic and protocol layers?

Since Bcash wants 8mb blocks so bad, I'm willing to spend all my airdropped JihanCoins making sure they get as many huge, difficult or impossible to validate blocks as possible.

You see the obvious strategic value in my "Leverage Hostile Forks' Own Airdrops Against Them" technique, but won't follow that approach to its logical conclusion.  Why not?  My guess is you're still building a Bcash short position and will change your mind when it's ready to cash out.  Wink
lols...thats the btc maxmilists view on etc/eth...fair enough...but thats for another thread  Smiley

ok , i will join you lol,
what is your logical conclusion that you want me to join...im so confused  Cheesy

as for your guess on my position..your wrong, thats not i how roll  Wink
my aim is , get as much coin of projects i believe have gd long term potential...
so far with this strategy ive done really well.
legendary
Activity: 2156
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

This forcing to list forked coins ..began with polo and etc.
The rest....BDN system...lols great idea..

end of the day, bcc is here to stay and will be worth alot more than its current value...(BDN or not lol)


You need to stop and reconsider that opinion because it is wrong, despite its popularity in low-to-mid-brow pleb venues like Reddit.

ETC is the original and thus *DEFENDING* chain under attack from the controversial Bailout Fork.

BTC is the original and thus *DEFENDING* chain under attack from the controversial Jihan/Ver/Garzik vanity fork.

You cannot validly compare Polo's continued (and legally obligatory) listing of the *DEFENDING* status quo ETC chain with other greedy exchanges listing the *ATTACKING* fork of Bcash.

ETC is opt-out; Bcash is opt-in.  Do you see the difference?

Coinbase had no business picking the winner in the ETC/ETH fight and Armstrong made a complete fool of himself by declaring the defending chain would simply Go Away Quickly because its persistence is inconvenient for Bailout Edition.

Polo was required to list ETC because it is not their place to decide on behalf of customers that the controversial and mutable Bailout Edition should supersede it.

And what makes you think Bcash will be worth anything when we start using Disruption Nodes to flood active addresses with malleated tx, effectively paralyzing the network at the economic and protocol layers?

Since Bcash wants 8mb blocks so bad, I'm willing to spend all my airdropped JihanCoins making sure they get as many huge, difficult or impossible to validate blocks as possible.

You see the obvious strategic value in my "Leverage Hostile Forks' Own Airdrops Against Them" technique, but won't follow that approach to its logical conclusion.  Why not?  My guess is you're still building a Bcash short position and will change your mind when it's ready to cash out.  Wink
legendary
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Hows things m8?
happy to see your input and views  Smiley

Hi Pumpertits, Cheesy thats what she said lol

I've been enjoying (IE been helplessly addicted to) all the usual crypto-drama, especially Roger's "Bcash" vanity project.

This elective rage-fork is harmless by itself but set a terrible precedent w/r/t exchanges being forced with invalid 'pregnant cow' analogies to support every shitty airdrop for all time (because muh Fiduciary).

All the pressure on Coinbase, etc. does it make it impossible for US-based exchanges subject to lawfare (legal blackmail) to compete with those in less litigious jurisdictions, because they will now forever continue to be pressed into service supporting the latest trendy new contentious hard fork.

Thus I propose Bitcoin Core supporters create a Bcash Disruptor Node with the following functionality/UX.

1. Bcash Disruptor Node (indistinguishable from normal node) is installed, synced, and loaded with user's Bcash
2. Easily malleated tx are construed and broadcast with no out-of-pocked expense to user, targeting (exchange?) address with the largest/most active balances
3. Malleated tx construction is accelerated with users GPU
4. Attack Client uses airdropped Bcash to flood network with malleated low/med fee spam tx, forcing exchanges to halt deposits and withdrawals
5. User may select from Slow, Fast, and Random attack speed options for constant, instant, or unpredictable crapflooding fun

The more BTC you own, the more damage you get to inflict on Bcash using your free airdropped JihanCoins.  The force of the attack is multiplied by the stupidity of eschewing a malleability fix and the power of OpenCL to quickly malleate transactions.   Cool


My other idea is to fork Bcash into Bcash2x, which honors Satoshi's Vision (everybody take a shot) by implementing Segwit2x on the Bcash chain, where the egregious heresies of GregStream Corp cannot harm it.  Grin

This forcing to list forked coins ..began with polo and etc.
The rest....BDN system...lols great idea..

end of the day, bcc is here to stay and will be worth alot more than its current value...(BDN or not lol)
bcc is another coin in my basket for long term
All crypto is growing...grab em cheap while you can, i say  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2156
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Hows things m8?
happy to see your input and views  Smiley

Hi Pumpertits,

I've been enjoying (IE been helplessly addicted to) all the usual crypto-drama, especially Roger's "Bcash" vanity project.

This elective rage-fork is harmless by itself but set a terrible precedent w/r/t exchanges being forced with invalid 'pregnant cow' analogies to support every shitty airdrop for all time (because muh Fiduciary).

All the pressure on Coinbase, etc. does it make it impossible for US-based exchanges subject to lawfare (legal blackmail) to compete with those in less litigious jurisdictions, because they will now forever continue to be pressed into service supporting the latest trendy new contentious hard fork.

Thus I propose Bitcoin Core supporters create a Bcash Disruptor Node with the following functionality/UX.

1. Bcash Disruptor Node (indistinguishable from normal node) is installed, synced, and loaded with user's Bcash
2. Easily malleated tx are construed and broadcast with no out-of-pocked expense to user, targeting (exchange?) address with the largest/most active balances
3. Malleated tx construction is accelerated with users GPU
4. Attack Client uses airdropped Bcash to flood network with malleated low/med fee spam tx, forcing exchanges to halt deposits and withdrawals
5. User may select from Slow, Fast, and Random attack speed options for constant, instant, or unpredictable crapflooding fun

The more BTC you own, the more damage you get to inflict on Bcash using your free airdropped JihanCoins.  The force of the attack is multiplied by the stupidity of eschewing a malleability fix and the power of OpenCL to quickly malleate transactions.   Cool


My other idea is to fork Bcash into Bcash2x, which honors Satoshi's Vision (everybody take a shot) by implementing Segwit2x on the Bcash chain, where the egregious heresies of GregStream Corp cannot harm it.  Grin
legendary
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https://news.bitcoin.com/blockchain-data-reveals-someone-is-trying-to-slow-down-bitcoin-cash/
TLDR; somebody is deliberately throwing a ton of hashpower at BCC every time the difficulty is about to adjust down. I wonder who would do that...

However:

https://medium.com/@freetrade68/the-bitcoin-cash-flippening-is-coming-faster-than-you-expect-3fb75fa61138

They have a good point - BTC doesn't have a smart(er) diff adjustment, while BCC does. My understanding is that the BTC difficulty is about to rise for the next 2016 blocks (and will remain higher for a minimum 2 weeks).

If BCC mining hashpower increases (making mining BCC more cost-effective), and BTC mining hashpower starts to fall off, the BTC chain could get stuck in HELL for 3+ months, with slow-ass confirmations and useless full blocks. Imagine if BTC miners only mine 2 blocks per day!

2 blocks/day for BTC would be exactly the kind of failure mode which would rally support for an uncontroversial hard fork to either new difficulty adjustment algo or new PoW.

But that's not going to happen because the alternative is to use the shoddy Bcash chain, which is so appallingly defective in design that it can be attacked by merely mining it at 'sensitive' times.

Let the scope of Garzik's architectural failure sink in for a moment; savor the boundless incompetence of a hastily implemented rage-forked shitcoin design that by application of additional mining power is actually *endangered* rather than additively secured.   Cheesy

Game of Thrones must work very hard to provide us with appropriately epic graphics/memes for the upcoming Bcash Officially #REKT thread...
you see that tek lol...thats how its done...by a legend  Smiley

Hows things m8?
happy to see your input and views  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
https://news.bitcoin.com/blockchain-data-reveals-someone-is-trying-to-slow-down-bitcoin-cash/
TLDR; somebody is deliberately throwing a ton of hashpower at BCC every time the difficulty is about to adjust down. I wonder who would do that...

However:

https://medium.com/@freetrade68/the-bitcoin-cash-flippening-is-coming-faster-than-you-expect-3fb75fa61138

They have a good point - BTC doesn't have a smart(er) diff adjustment, while BCC does. My understanding is that the BTC difficulty is about to rise for the next 2016 blocks (and will remain higher for a minimum 2 weeks).

If BCC mining hashpower increases (making mining BCC more cost-effective), and BTC mining hashpower starts to fall off, the BTC chain could get stuck in HELL for 3+ months, with slow-ass confirmations and useless full blocks. Imagine if BTC miners only mine 2 blocks per day!

2 blocks/day for BTC would be exactly the kind of failure mode which would rally support for an uncontroversial hard fork to either new difficulty adjustment algo or new PoW.

But that's not going to happen because the alternative is to use the shoddy Bcash chain, which is so appallingly defective in design that it can be attacked by merely mining it at 'sensitive' times.

Let the scope of Garzik's architectural failure sink in for a moment; savor the boundless incompetence of a hastily implemented rage-forked shitcoin design that by application of additional mining power is actually *endangered* rather than additively secured.   Cheesy

Game of Thrones must work very hard to provide us with appropriately epic graphics/memes for the upcoming Bcash Officially #REKT thread...
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what this coin price same with Btc ?? Grin
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