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HOLY FUCK

dat activity here

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Soepkip...het werd tijd dat bc. deze verdiende aandacht kreeg!
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Coinoholic
I think the one thing we need to heed from this conversation which is true on both ends of the spectrum. This coin needs real material value. It doesn't matter how innovative the idea is, the coin needs to stand on its own two feet before it has sustainable value. I can't go to BlackCoin.com and order ham sandwiches or a mining rig at a set rate, thats the biggest hole in all of these coins. Yes I'm sure the coin will go higher short term, but it is true that it's going to hit its peak and likely drop hard.

Once a lot of bag holders see the volume slowing down, they are going to want to move into another coin thats climbing to earn a quick buck. The alt coin game is really like throwing a ball in the air, what comes up must come down if you don't put something underneath it to hold it up. If we want this coin to reach a HIGH price, and have 100s of btc worth of buy orders for anybody to sell out without crashing the price, we as a community need to add tangible value to it.
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dat activity here

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newbie
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Hi guys,

what do you think of contacting http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com and suggest they should write an article about BC?
Think it would be nice way of spreading the world! Let me know and i can contact them if you wish!

Secondly i have no words for what is happening!!! Just amazing!
hero member
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There just won't be the BTC volume to sustain that value

Sustaining a price is a PoW coin issue. It's a far different scenario when you have little to no miner/dumper coin generation. (reference to QRK after it was 98% mined followed by 3000% rise and even to this day after coming back to Earth it's still up like 1000% compared to where it all started)

In the end though, you are right that something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay. The multipool will be the foundation for whatever is to come for this coin. As long as interest is maintained or increased, price will continue to rise. With with that said, I absolutely expect whale dumping and flash crashing. Whales are on power trips and will do their best to try and control the market. But this is first coin that actually takes some of that power away from them.

If you're in it to get rich quick, you might be disappointed. But if you're going long, just continued support will work better on this coin than any coin available. Think about buying in at less than $1 million cap as being an IPO investor. Except this is about as fair as an IPO can get - you know the details and you even support yourself quite easily. Where anywhere in the crypto market is such an option available? Smiley

It may work. It may not work. Anything is possible. But this about the most of awesome of an experiment you can be a part of in this market. And this experiment will have a lot of "tests" for sure.
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I'm sad I couldn't buy back @ 1600. This coins true value is not 1.5-2k, it's way more than that.
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Right, to an extent. The largest wallet in this game is what maybe 1.6 million? Only a few people have the power to do some damage. I don't see anybody buying up a bag of 10 million at these prices just to crash the price to bits. One can speculate either way, I see the pendulum swinging toward a climb overall.

If you think these whales hold all their coins in a single wallet you're mistaken.

The coin will be dumped once the pool novelty wears off and no new investors come with more btc to sustain the high prices, the pool alone will not be able to sustain such a high value for a coin which no applicable use apart from being given in exchange for mining crappier coins and what do you think those miners will want to do ? Dump the coin to turn a profit

I'm not saying the pool is a bad thing, it's great seeing the community come together but the reality is everyone is in this for the money not the longevity of the coin and unfortunately that will be this and every other coins demise

Not disagreeing with every aspect of what you are saying. Nonetheless, I do think your designation of "such a high value" is quite arbitrary. Personally I think the present value is quite low, in comparison to where it is likely headed. Also, the fact that there are limited applications now does not mean they aren't in the pipeline. And indeed they are.

I've always regarded BC's true value to be around the 1.5 to 2k mark, however it is also high value after all things considered. There just won't be the BTC volume to sustain that value and as such it becomes a "high" value even if it should be the correct value. All these coins have waves of investment, when investment shifts focus to a different set of coins values of other coins have to drop as there isn't enough overall volume to keep all coins afloat at their natural floors (true value if you must). Once people get bored of this coin they'll shift focus to new coins and take their BTC with them which will lead to unsustainable prices and end up with a crash like we've seen with so many coins. It is the natural order of things currently with all crypto's and until we get more fresh blood investing in crypto's these cycles will continue

Yes, at the end of the day, a coin is 'worth' whatever the market will pay for it, for whatever the reason(s). The idea of 'true' or 'correct' value is a little absurd apart from this. Present price reflects not one but many factors, including hype, speculation, and the pricing-in of expectations. And those expectations may be based on real or purely imaginary information. That said, bottom line is I see a lot of promise here. More than in most coins at the present time.
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Does anyone know if you generate interest while your coins are in a wallet on an exchange? I'm guessing no at this point.

My other question is would the exhanges be able to collect the interest on the coins of the users wallets? Or is this happening already?
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After Blackcoin hits 2 million  market cap I think it will be time to switch gears.

We need to advertise to the big BTC holders / investors that really like BTC but want a something that isn't so heavily manipulated by massive mining farms, large holders or really shitty exchanges.

Blackcoin can be that store of wealth without all the drama that other coins have.
-No large holders
-no large mining to contend with
-no inflation
-fast transactions
-no established corporate culture

Most big BTC investors wont bother looking at BC until 2+ million though, so BC has to get there on its own.

After some big players have moved then then comes looking at getting merchants involved.

>> that could take BC to 20mil market cap



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Right, to an extent. The largest wallet in this game is what maybe 1.6 million? Only a few people have the power to do some damage. I don't see anybody buying up a bag of 10 million at these prices just to crash the price to bits. One can speculate either way, I see the pendulum swinging toward a climb overall.

If you think these whales hold all their coins in a single wallet you're mistaken.

The coin will be dumped once the pool novelty wears off and no new investors come with more btc to sustain the high prices, the pool alone will not be able to sustain such a high value for a coin which no applicable use apart from being given in exchange for mining crappier coins and what do you think those miners will want to do ? Dump the coin to turn a profit

I'm not saying the pool is a bad thing, it's great seeing the community come together but the reality is everyone is in this for the money not the longevity of the coin and unfortunately that will be this and every other coins demise

@Miner232432  See, the thing here is that the pool is not a novelty. All of the BTC mined will be converted to BC, thus guaranteeing a perpupetual buy support (relative to the hashing power of the pool) that wouldn't have existed otherwise, as you are no longer able to mine BlackCoin as its fully proof of stake.
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Right, to an extent. The largest wallet in this game is what maybe 1.6 million? Only a few people have the power to do some damage. I don't see anybody buying up a bag of 10 million at these prices just to crash the price to bits. One can speculate either way, I see the pendulum swinging toward a climb overall.

If you think these whales hold all their coins in a single wallet you're mistaken.

The coin will be dumped once the pool novelty wears off and no new investors come with more btc to sustain the high prices, the pool alone will not be able to sustain such a high value for a coin which no applicable use apart from being given in exchange for mining crappier coins and what do you think those miners will want to do ? Dump the coin to turn a profit

I'm not saying the pool is a bad thing, it's great seeing the community come together but the reality is everyone is in this for the money not the longevity of the coin and unfortunately that will be this and every other coins demise

Not disagreeing with every aspect of what you are saying. Nonetheless, I do think your designation of "such a high value" is quite arbitrary. Personally I think the present value is quite low, in comparison to where it is likely headed. Also, the fact that there are limited applications now does not mean they aren't in the pipeline. And indeed they are.

I've always regarded BC's true value to be around the 1.5 to 2k mark, however it is also high value after all things considered. There just won't be the BTC volume to sustain that value and as such it becomes a "high" value even if it should be the correct value. All these coins have waves of investment, when investment shifts focus to a different set of coins values of other coins have to drop as there isn't enough overall volume to keep all coins afloat at their natural floors (true value if you must). Once people get bored of this coin they'll shift focus to new coins and take their BTC with them which will lead to unsustainable prices and end up with a crash like we've seen with so many coins. It is the natural order of things currently with all crypto's and until we get more fresh blood investing in crypto's these cycles will continue
sr. member
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Right, to an extent. The largest wallet in this game is what maybe 1.6 million? Only a few people have the power to do some damage. I don't see anybody buying up a bag of 10 million at these prices just to crash the price to bits. One can speculate either way, I see the pendulum swinging toward a climb overall.

If you think these whales hold all their coins in a single wallet you're mistaken.

The coin will be dumped once the pool novelty wears off and no new investors come with more btc to sustain the high prices, the pool alone will not be able to sustain such a high value for a coin which no applicable use apart from being given in exchange for mining crappier coins and what do you think those miners will want to do ? Dump the coin to turn a profit

I'm not saying the pool is a bad thing, it's great seeing the community come together but the reality is everyone is in this for the money not the longevity of the coin and unfortunately that will be this and every other coins demise

Not disagreeing with every aspect of what you are saying. Nonetheless, I do think your designation of "such a high value" is quite arbitrary. Personally I think the present value is quite low, in comparison to where it is likely headed. Also, the fact that there are limited applications now does not mean they aren't in the pipeline. And indeed they are.
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Right, to an extent. The largest wallet in this game is what maybe 1.6 million? Only a few people have the power to do some damage. I don't see anybody buying up a bag of 10 million at these prices just to crash the price to bits. One can speculate either way, I see the pendulum swinging toward a climb overall.

If you think these whales hold all their coins in a single wallet you're mistaken.

The coin will be dumped once the pool novelty wears off and no new investors come with more btc to sustain the high prices, the pool alone will not be able to sustain such a high value for a coin which no applicable use apart from being given in exchange for mining crappier coins and what do you think those miners will want to do ? Dump the coin to turn a profit

I'm not saying the pool is a bad thing, it's great seeing the community come together but the reality is everyone is in this for the money not the longevity of the coin and unfortunately that will be this and every other coins demise
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This shows how ppl dont understand the concept of BC. What most dont realize is that BC cant be dumped like other mineable coins. Once the pool gets started and assuming everything goes as planned, BC at low prices are history. If you sell now, you will hardly ever see these prices again.

It's posts like this that only shows wishful thinking. Certainly BC can be dumped by whales that hold millions of coins. They have the ability to crash the entire market in one go if they wanted to. Just because it's not mined and coins aren't being generated by PoW doesn't mean the coin can't be dumped. That said, we wont see the same kind of gradual deflation of the currency like other coins.

Right, to an extent. The largest wallet in this game is what maybe 1.6 million? Only a few people have the power to do some damage. I don't see anybody buying up a bag of 10 million at these prices just to crash the price to bits. One can speculate either way, I see the pendulum swinging toward a climb overall.

Either way what you say about whales is accurate, BC does not have strong legs at this point. This price could be blasted and send people into a panic sell short term at any time, nothing is guaranteed.

@joyztik

Your correct, short term. Anyone holding can dump or anyone can buy slowly and dump if they wanted to as well. The difference is that Blackcoin is more likely to slowly climb back up after a massive dump because there isn't the continuous influx of coins from Proof of Work mining. Compare this to, lets say Maxcoin, where somethink like 250k are created everyday. If someone dumps a ton of Maxcoin, the market has to overcome the dump plus the continuous influx of 250k coins being mined and sold daily. If you look at the Maxcoin history it shows exactly that...there's too many coins being created to recover after big sells, which is why its gone down continually since day 1.

What's interesting about Proof of Stake is all the coins are released relatively early with a lower rate of inflation (1%) limiting supply. In my opinion, this gives BlackCoin the potential to greatly increase in supply as there is plenty of room for growth in demand while supply remains at the controlled growth rate of 1%. Obviously, since this is first fully proof of stake coin I have no idea what's going to happen, but there can only be one first time to see what happens!

It resembles what's called 'holding the nuts' in a hand of texas hold'em. Watch this get scary.
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I'm in for this.
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This shows how ppl dont understand the concept of BC. What most dont realize is that BC cant be dumped like other mineable coins. Once the pool gets started and assuming everything goes as planned, BC at low prices are history. If you sell now, you will hardly ever see these prices again.

It's posts like this that only shows wishful thinking. Certainly BC can be dumped by whales that hold millions of coins. They have the ability to crash the entire market in one go if they wanted to. Just because it's not mined and coins aren't being generated by PoW doesn't mean the coin can't be dumped. That said, we wont see the same kind of gradual deflation of the currency like other coins.

Right, to an extent. The largest wallet in this game is what maybe 1.6 million? Only a few people have the power to do some damage. I don't see anybody buying up a bag of 10 million at these prices just to crash the price to bits. One can speculate either way, I see the pendulum swinging toward a climb overall.

Either way what you say about whales is accurate, BC does not have strong legs at this point. This price could be blasted and send people into a panic sell short term at any time, nothing is guaranteed.

@joyztik

Your correct, short term. Anyone holding can dump or anyone can buy slowly and dump if they wanted to as well. The difference is that Blackcoin is more likely to slowly climb back up after a massive dump because there isn't the continuous influx of coins from Proof of Work mining. Compare this to, lets say Maxcoin, where somethink like 250k are created everyday. If someone dumps a ton of Maxcoin, the market has to overcome the dump plus the continuous influx of 250k coins being mined and sold daily. If you look at the Maxcoin history it shows exactly that...there's too many coins being created to recover after big sells, which is why its gone down continually since day 1.

What's interesting about Proof of Stake is all the coins are released relatively early with a lower rate of inflation (1%) limiting supply. In my opinion, this gives BlackCoin the potential to greatly increase in supply as there is plenty of room for growth in demand while supply remains at the controlled growth rate of 1%. Obviously, since this is first fully proof of stake coin I have no idea what's going to happen, but there can only be one first time to see what happens!
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Do you guys think we will see 1600 satoshis soon again?
I would't count on it but it could always happen...

It could, the coin is being walled off at 2000 right now which is incredible. coin wants to go over 2k. But if theres manipulation going on I would wait until a dip to buy in.. maybe not going to see 1600 again though.

all it would take would be one big player with 50 btc to buy in and that would start a whole new trend. So far most people that buy in are less then 1 btc, very few have 5-10 btc thrown into this.

I agree, if one big boy comes in the price is going to explode. I put 2 btc in the coin but im broke now.. literally holding dark and all bc at this point.. tempted to sell off the dark and go back to it in a couple days

Is darkcoin expected to move a lot in the next couple of days? Because I think the potential upside of the pool is worth going from darkcoin to blackcoin for AT LEAST the next couple days
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This shows how ppl dont understand the concept of BC. What most dont realize is that BC cant be dumped like other mineable coins. Once the pool gets started and assuming everything goes as planned, BC at low prices are history. If you sell now, you will hardly ever see these prices again.

It's posts like this that only shows wishful thinking. Certainly BC can be dumped by whales that hold millions of coins. They have the ability to crash the entire market in one go if they wanted to. Just because it's not mined and coins aren't being generated by PoW doesn't mean the coin can't be dumped. That said, we wont see the same kind of gradual deflation of the currency like other coins.

Right, to an extent. The largest wallet in this game is what maybe 1.6 million? Only a few people have the power to do some damage. I don't see anybody buying up a bag of 10 million at these prices just to crash the price to bits. One can speculate either way, I see the pendulum swinging toward a climb overall.

Either way what you say about whales is accurate, BC does not have strong legs at this point. This price could be blasted and send people into a panic sell short term at any time, nothing is guaranteed.
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This shows how ppl dont understand the concept of BC. What most dont realize is that BC cant be dumped like other mineable coins. Once the pool gets started and assuming everything goes as planned, BC at low prices are history. If you sell now, you will hardly ever see these prices again.

It's posts like this that only shows wishful thinking. Certainly BC can be dumped by whales that hold millions of coins. They have the ability to crash the entire market in one go if they wanted to. Just because it's not mined and coins aren't being generated by PoW doesn't mean the coin can't be dumped. That said, we wont see the same kind of gradual deflation of the currency like other coins.

there is no one holding more then 2% of the coins

How could you possibly know that?
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If you guys bought in now, do not panic over any crazy price movement. This coin has an essentially finite supply. I went through the same during PoW week. I held, averaged down, and am now over 100% my average buy price.

And the difference between now and PoW week is you will have hash power to support your investment. In the short-term there will be spikes and dips, but as long as miners continue to mine, inject BTC into the BC market, and hold (at least most of their stash), the BC price can only go up over time thanks to the 1% coin generation rate per year.

Use BC and price movements as a practice to control your emotions. Learn the technique of cost averaging if you must, and of course, only invest what you can afford to lose. But at least you can sleep knowing this idea that you are investing is probably one of the best the ever see the light of day in the crypto market. The community now will actually have some control to the price, as opposed to just being 100% at the mercy of the big whales. Smiley

This shows how ppl dont understand the concept of BC. What most dont realize is that BC cant be dumped like other mineable coins. Once the pool gets started and assuming everything goes as planned, BC at low prices are history. If you sell now, you will hardly ever see these prices again.

Whales can, and will probably still try to flash crash it. But the difference is the community miners are going to be right there picking them right back up! Because what the whales dump, they cannot rebuy with fresh newly generated coins from miners that are mining and dumping non-stop.

Hey man! Great post, convinced me to run and grab some more Blackcoin! Where could i find more information on the BC pool ? Sounds real interesting, to my knowledge no other coin had a system like that in place.
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