Topic: [ANN] Blacknet | IBO for BlackCoin | New code | PoS | No ICO - page 26. (Read 2509671 times)

No guarantees.


Unlike snapshot, burning does not depend on exchanges.

Reason for dump on BLK

BLK will be delisted on August 2. You will have until that date to trade relevant pairs on Poloniex, and up to and including September 2 to withdraw your BLK.


At first i was worried that it was being delisted because of the BLK-Blacknet stuff....but then when i looked closer at polo, they are delisting around 7 more coins.
So its a poloniex clearance for reasons only related to polo, nothing to do with BLK-BLKN  

Ill pick up as much BLK as i can at these prices and lower  

When does burning blackcoin for blacknet start and end?

I read on poloniex "BLK will be delisted on August 2. You will have until that date to trade relevant pairs on Poloniex, and up to and including September 2 to withdraw your BLK."

Does that affect when the burn will start or end at all?

How much will be the coinsupply of blacknet??

How PoB works, you can find info in Slimcoin (first PoB coin since 2014)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/slimcoin-first-proof-of-burn-currency-decentralized-web-1141676

Fair enough.

What is Blacknet? What can you tell us?

When do you start? When do you distribute blacknet chain? How will I ever be sure that I will get the value of my burned BlackCoins back??

I'm still dictator in the project I started.
If you disagree with my decisions or want to diversify, you are free to take over BlackCoin chain, cause I'll abandon it after distribution of Blacknet chain.

I only see that Blacknet and Blackcoin loosing trust because of this chaos. Blackcoin is already there but with this announcement and burning these coins for something that is a mystery - a new coin, will not bring back trust back in this currency. And without trust in areliable development money will move out of this currencies. It sounds that the dev-team is not willing to work together. Communication over the past month, splitting and renaming threads this coin destroy so many that even an excellent new development, combination of coins or whatever will come, cant compensate.

To be honest, I think this is a very strange situation. Blackcoin is here, and here to stay. just do your research and you will see that it is not going anywhere.

The title of this thread should not mention anything about "formerly BlackCoin", that is a complete lie! I hope someone can change the title

Another thing...I don't know what Blacknet is or what it does, but I would like to know more about it. Does anyone have some proper information about this project?

Thanks!
Michel

I appreciate that you pointed out that I may have been giving the wrong impression.

Gritt-N-Auld, I appreciate your response and thank you for the detailed answers. I am sorry that I accused you of misinformation.
I had a detailed dream today too.

Here let me please answer your questions to the best that I can.

I believe that Gritt-N-Auld is trying to misinform me about blackcoins and blacknet.
I'm sorry. I really do not want to misinform you and I really do not want to try to misinform you.

Maybe he is really selfish and wants there to be less coins burned for blacknet so that he would have a larger percentage of the blacknet.
Full disclosure, I am burning 10% of my BLK for Blacknet and certainly will make it roughly a 50/50 split and move the 40% into Blacknet with market buys to support the marketplace.

Or maybe he just wants to manipulate rat4 into letting him have his cake and letting him eat it too.
I just want him to communicate =(. No joke, rat4 has nothing been a positive influence to me. I wouldn't be where I am now without him and I owe him my world. I had a dream about him last night, it is really symbolic. In my dream, rat4 sent me a package for my birthday in 2014 (I literally 'joined' BLK just before my birthday). He asked me numerous times, did I like my present? The truth was, I never opened it, even though I told him that I loved it. Worse yet, I ignored him. Reflecting on what is going on now, it wasn't until recently that I had opened it because I came to appreciate the relationship we had. He sent me a package which included a plant, an old rare computer keyboard (don't ask I just like them) that he had an extra of, and 2 small gold bars. I never understood the care and attention that he put into the present until I opened. Saying that he grew the plant himself, that he knew that I liked interesting keyboards, and that as thanks here are 2 small gold bars. Not only that, the plant was still alive and thriving. I literally broke into tears in my dream. Here is a dude, that took time to grow something and nurture it, that he knew that I liked interesting keyboards and sent him an extra of his, and sent my 2 small gold bars as thanks just because. Here I was, being a complete asshole and ignoring him and his present of which he took time to assemble, ignoring it and that present was built with passion. I can see how it applies to Blackcoin.

Or maybe he benefits from people not participating in blacknet in some other way that I don't know.
I don't benefit from people going to BLK and Blacknet. The more Blackcoin that is burnt is more valuable for BLK because less is on market. Maybe rat4 thinks that I am attempting to hostily take over Blackcoin. Please no =(. I just want us to be cohesive and tight again.

Its really bad what you are doing.
I'm sorry if it seems that way.

I hope I make my own educated decision about what to do without being manipulated by your misinformation.
Always do your own research. Please tell me what misinformation that I am spreading.

But you have to also understand that just the same way as you and other people can continue your blackcoin and have a thread, website, twitter, other things for blackcoin, Rat4 has the same right to rebrand blackcoin as blacknet and make this thread for what ever he wants.
For this thread that is entirely correct I just want him to do the right thing. I would suggest Blacknet (continuation of PoS 3.0) or something along those lines.

To make it more clear to you, I bought blackcoins just for burning it for blacknet. If there was no blacknet I would not have bought any blackcoins.

I'm right here with you. I too am going to get some Blacknet because I really want to see rat4 thrive and I'm glad he is back. I just wish he didn't take this whole debacle the wrong way.

BlackCoin != Blacknet
Janko is my hero. After Rat4 and Gritt quit BlackCoin he pushed development forward and kept the project relevant. Now Gritt is back, and that's great. He has been really helping out in both Github and social media since his return. Much gratitude!

Rat4 was respectable before, but now I wonder if he was killed and torchered for is private keys or something, because the anti community behavior is not like the Rat4 which helped to create BlackCoin. Even if it's the same old Rat4... it doesn't matter.

The most important thing in Crypto is community as value is intersubjective, and the new Rat4 has proven hostile to community.
I will evaluate BlackNet when code is released... Maybe it will be revolutionary? Maybe it's a way to destroy BLK's fair distribution?
I would have supported a snapshot, but not a burn.
It's a bad distribution method for Proof of Stake as it narrows the set of stakeholders rather than 1:1 or expansion in some way (like a snapshot with distribution to PeerCoin and Bitcoin holders as well as BLK holders).

Join https://gitte[Suspicious link removed]/BlackCoin_Hub/General for more discussion.

Okay this might be how you truly feel. I can understand that. But you have to also understand that just the same way as you and other people can continue your blackcoin and have a thread, website, twitter, other things for blackcoin, Rat4 has the same right to rebrand blackcoin as blacknet and make this thread for what ever he wants. Even if that means saying Blacknet is the successor to Blackcoin. He does not need anyone's permission to do that. This is his thread.

To make it more clear to you, I bought blackcoins just for burning it for blacknet. If there was no blacknet I would not have bought any blackcoins.
This is my decision. Don't try to ruin it for me or change my mind please. As I know you will not compensate me if I make the wrong decision with my money.

I 100% exactly meant completely what I said. There are no centralised authorities in Blackcoin. Anyone can take a project and run with it. Including Blackcoin. The community that is pissed off at rat4 for what he has done are running with it because in cryptocurrencies there are no central authorities. They do not have to listen to anyone to say otherwise.

Blackcoin is protocol. Development is software supporting that protocol.

Ditching a project through a burn because rat4 thinks that everyone is out against him is not correct. I had offered to help him since he announced Blacknet. Everyone loved and respected rat4, I still do. However, when I see something go down the wrong way that is completely centralised, after trying and trying to email rat4 privately which no response.

I think rat4 thought that Janko's development was hostile. That ISN'T true. Janko tried to bridge an obvious glaring gap and speaking as a third party from what Janko has showed and told me, it is wrong.

The whole reason why I am here is to be a sort of whistleblower to false information. I already had a chat with the exchanges and everyone else and told them exactly what is happening.

These are the facts:
- Blackcoin still exists, there still is development going on with or without rat4 for the past 2 years
- Blacknet is a project by rat4, the original dev and brains behind Blackcoin
- In rat4's eyes, Blacknet is a spiritual successor to Blackcoin. I do NOT disagree with that. The same as how I see Blackcoin as a spiritual successor to Peercoin and others.
- Blacknet has proposed unique traits and I really do hope that I can HELP rat4 overcome obstacles that he may face because I respect him.
- Rat4 still has a say on the blackcoin.org website and development, he isn't being shunned from anything or being pushed away
- Rat4 gave me access to the Blackcoin repository on github just recently, rat4, thanks.

Literally, the only thing that I am angry about it simply one thing: "Blacknet (formerly BlackCoin)" <- this isn't true.


I actually do want to help rat4!

I believe that Gritt-N-Auld is trying to misinform me about blackcoins and blacknet.
Maybe he is really selfish and wants there to be less coins burned for blacknet so that he would have a larger percentage of the blacknet.
Or maybe he just wants to manipulate rat4 into letting him have his cake and letting him eat it too.
Or maybe he benefits from people not participating in blacknet in some other way that I don't know.
Its really bad what you are doing.
I hope I make my own educated decision about what to do without being manipulated by your misinformation.

You have summed up exactly how I feel about this. Plus nobody can have a monopoly on development or promotion on a project so stating that "Blacknet formerly Blackcoin" literally shits on everyone that has ever done anything for this project from someone they all respected.

rat4: Will we know the technical details of blacknet before we are required to burn blackcoin?

I want to support this new project, but I buy cryptocurrency based on fundamentals of the technology.

Since details are very sparse right now, I don't feel comfortable burning my black for an unknown project...

If blacknet is account based, does that mean it's a fork of ethereum?  or is it brand new code?  Why haven't you posted any blacknet code for community review?

I want to believe you have been working on an awesome new project, but some people in blk community are saying not to trust you.