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I'm sorry to disappoint you but...
I do not agree. It's one of core ideas discussed here - The Foundation. It should be done publicly IMO.
If they'd call it The BlackCoin Group - there would be nothing to discuss I guess.

Keep things positive everyone.  Think how much could be accomplished if you tried to do something to actually promote Blackcoin instead of bitching about everything here.

I would love nothing better than having 100 "investment groups" working to increase the value of Blackcoin.

There are litterally 100s of cancer foundations, all working for a cure.  You dont see them complaining about each other - they all have a common goal.  

Everyone here should have the same agenda (promoting blackcoin / increasing the value of blackcoin)

Lets light this candle!

That's foundation plan 2.0!

Good find IE:)

You don't want yet coming after killed

Since when is this forum a chatbox for drama? Why don't you use a pm for this? A bit silly to argue like this don't you guys think? Very childish behavior also.

There is a good book I can recommend you to read, it helps you to leave your ego at the door.

A new world by eckhard tolle.

Thank you for your post amigdala. From the look of it you will be a valuable member here.

I have been operating under the belief that I have had a calming effect on the forums for the past day or so but if that is not the case (please let me know) I will adjust my methods.

Thanks, again, for the critique!

x100000

Like! Some love in the air.

We all make mistakes. I did it @ work today and I know it's gonna bite me in the ass coming days. We all do something wrong some day in our lives. Learn from it and try to do a better job next time. There is no "good" or "wrong", people make decisions based on their own calculations about the information they have at that time.

What I'm trying to say: we all should look in the mirror some day and don't be scared to agree we've made a wrong accusation for whatever reason. No problem, shit happens! Lets move on, learn from it and make this a better world.

We don't suffer from cancer (as far as I know) or some other nasty disease, but we all only try to make BlackCoin the better coin out of all the scams out there. We all have the same interests in the end, so try to live with eachother

lots of good news, articles, new exchanges...
one would expect that to give the price a little boost and instead some annoying assclown is slowly dumping for now 12 hours. Hope his mum sends him to bed soon.

Brammien, it seems you are under the misconception that soepkip is the founder of BC. This is not true. He is a community member just as you are. He is actively working towards helping BC grow and to that end people go to him with ideas and suggestions. Others around him also came up with their own ideas. These people eventually found each other and formed a group so noone was working on the same thing, and funding was going to the best places. We have been here for at least 2 months and we have not killed the coin yet. Quite the contrary.

Hello everyone,

I've been a crypto holder/trader since the BTC bubble last November, and a BC holder for about a month. I have previously invested in and traded a bunch of altcoins, though never really got involved in the community. BC, on the other hand, has been different for me from the day one I got involved. I felt there was something different about this coin and community, and I believe BC really has the potential to go far. I currently hold around 11k BC, have already donated to two causes, and have by now also decided to get an account on this forum so I can also chip in with my two cents in addition to following the BC thread on a daily basis.

I hope this message also serves as a wake-up call to some; there are a bunch of BC holders out there who follow here even if they don't actively contribute to the discussions. And there are at least that many more potential investors who are looking at promising altcoins to get on board with. As has been eloquently explained by countless members of the community already, what has been happening here for the past few days has not exactly been benefiting the community, nor has it been putting a good image and sending a positive message to those people watching BC from afar.

I, for one, am glad to see both parties have by now explained they have no intentions of carrying on with this quarrel. As a new member of this community and BC fan who is contemplating investing even more into BC, I would really appreciate it if this word was indeed kept, and the reciprocal hostility was brought to an end. Remember, actions speak louder than words. And we are all individuals with a certain level of intelligence, able to decide for ourselves. I will continue to donate to causes I personally deem worthy; thereby doing my part to help BC get to where I believe it can.

I'm in crypto because I believe in its future, and I trust being on board at this stage will make me some handsome returns on the long run. I suspect many others share similar sentiments. Let's not lose sight of this. So, as a newcomer, I kindly ask you all, let's stop the harmful segregation and direct our energy and efforts into some more constructive and meaningful. I look forward to collaborating with many of you.

Long live BlackCoin!

 

See you proved my point. The official connection between investment group/foundation and the official representation of Blackcoin. You might as well come right out and be honest now, these are two in the same.

First of all, your quoting me with dishonest things i've not said. I've said I'm okay with PR event, whatever works is fine with me. Your missing the whole dang point. It's separation of powers, and no conflicting interests. Your not getting that point, your dancing around the obvious. IE making money is fine, just like investment group, that is also fine with me. Just don't be calling yourself foundation, and going out saying Blackcoin doesn't support Wall st event, like happened before the retraction. Cause investment group as of now = foundation with official status.

This is why Soekip should not have his hands in both. If say investment group is separate and unaffilated with BC social media, then fine, they can start their own page and show they are not in support of an event, that is there business.

You, like rest of the mob, is not understanding. This isn't about Foundation vs. IE, it's about control and direction and the future of blackcoin. We are at a critical junction here, if we let a group control things with conflicting interests and pawning off as official blackcoin status, then we can't come back from this.

I'm not taking sides, I'm for decentralization, period.

Thank you for your questions and I can also understand why you can view it as a double standard. Please understand not every question from me or others are attempts at attention but legitimate questions. In regards to your question, although a private company is not required to disclose profits, I would be more than happy to share that information with you. After manufacturing, packaging, community donation ($1 per card), and worldwide shipping, my profit is roughly $5-$7 depending on the country I am shipping.

It's also implied that they actually hold on to their investments and expect a direct return. If the foundation was buying and holding BC and expecting a profit, calling it a hedge fund would be completely accurate. However these people are donating their money, and are not expecting a direct return, other than wider adoption of the coin.

Basically the foundation has 2 main tasks, protect the Blockchain and make sure that EVERYONES BlackCoin's remain safe from attacks-- this is the foremost concern of the foundation. The secondary task is promoting the worldwide adoption of BlackCoin, through relationships, partnerships, merchant adoption/courting/information and media promotions.

Foundation membership will be opened up to any one interested in joining, once we have the infrastructure in place to handle that. This infrastructure does not happen over night, and we have already started work on it. Most if not all transparency concerns will be addressed on the official website, as well as discuss our mission statement and talk about who we are (as members) and what we do.

Brammien, I don't understand your concerns at this point. Should soep not be allowed to donate money to worthy causes? All the foundation does is help organize fundraising ventures. You keep saying we control something and I have asked on several occasion what that is? Twitter accounts? They are free to all, anyone can grab a twitter handle... Soep is allowed to donate and promote to  whatever and whomever he decides as are you and me.

Im no expert but how are we supposed to move forward without a foundation, I know Bitcoin has had their foundation since the start. I think everybody is doing their little bit to get BC on the map. I applaud everybody!

Please read my previous post. I can understand your frustration, and if my use of "Hedge Fund" in some way offended you I am sorry. That was not my intention at all. I used "Hedge Fund" because a group of people pool their money together for an investment or investments. In this case it is to promote BlackCoin. So in essence it is similar to a hedge fund because part of promoting BC increase the value of everyone's portfolio, including mine.

This thread is becoming more ridiculous every day. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. How about we get some transparency from Iconic? I myself paid for a Blackcoin card. I want to know exactly how much of what I paid will be his personal profit. I honestly didn't care about this until today, but as you people are so dead set on transparency when it doesn't apply to you, let's go there.

I don't see where anyone has said that the Blackcoin Foundation will be taking a profit from donations.

A group of investors brought together = investment group. That is what the foundation is.

Iconic and the Foundation are exactly the same thing, just one is a singular person, the other is a group of people who have decided to work together.

Iconic will be taking some sort of profits from his Blackcoin Cards and no-one has kicked up a fuss about this (Why should they, people need to make a living too), yet when the Foundation pre-raise money for a venture and then ask for some donations which AFAIK will all go to the projects, they get shit for it from the same people making money off of donations simply over what? jealously? vying for control over a community owned resource?

What is to stop someone thinking that Iconic is in a position of solitary power due to all of the advertising work he is doing? Nothing. Anyone that steps forward and takes the mantle of responsibility onto themselves is going to be approached and followed by people in some way, it's just natural.

Stop being counterproductive just because someone else is doing something that is getting attention, seriously, it's getting old. The sandpit is big enough for lots of kids to play in and guess what, we all own parts of the sand. No matter how big you want to make your castle and parade around it stamping down on other peoples, that sand you are building with, is the communities to shape. A small part of that community has just come together to build theirs.