Author

Topic: [ANN] Blacknet | IBO for BlackCoin | New code | PoS | No ICO - page 405. (Read 2509934 times)

newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0

What is the plan for BlackCoin?

The plan is for people sort their shit out amongst themselves and stop this petty bickering that is nothing but divisive and counter to everyone's efforts. I'm done with this thread.
legendary
Activity: 2433
Merit: 1642
...snip....

.... Seriously?

No, really, Seriously?Huh

And you're doing what to promote the coin in any country? Serious question, no ... really!!

Rather than stand on the sidelines cheerleading one project over another, is it not beter to DO stuff like BOTH of these projects are doing?

You're wasting a lot of hot air and energy over something you're not even involved with when you could be using that same said energy to create a service/product/interest for BC. far more productive no?

some would say.... "Go on then... show us what YOU can do....." could you rise to that challenge or are you just a noisy cheerleader?

No, really, Seriously?? Could you?

Listen you piece of shit, first of all, I'm donating to this Wall Street event.

Secondly I already contacted personally many big news agencies about BlackCoin.

Thirdly, I'm thinking about to start a campaign giving $500 every month to be best BlackCoin initiative of the month.

Now tell, do you have the balls for this??

Now, tell me, seriously? Do you?

Piece of shit, you have no idea with who you are talking to

NOW TELL ME, WHAT DID YOU DO?

Wow! Thats quite a response... I wont dignify some of your text with a response, however, somethings I will reply to;

You're donating, thats good and to be commended. So well done there!
Hopefully your efforts with contacting news outlets will pay off, no such thing as too little publicity.
It would be good to see thinking turned into action when youre ready as $500 is quite the carrot!
What did I do? Ah well, those cards are being kept closer to the chest although I can tell you (although the same info is in this thread) I will be rolling out Coinkite in the UK backed up with a National publicity campaign and much more...

newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
So WC bombs and someone's driving the price down for BC. guess where the money from the upcoming giant WC dump is supposed to go.

I wouldn't really call a 400sat move over a few minutes "driving the price down", especially when there's almost no volume to speak of on either side, but it's definitely lighter on the buy-side .  Unless you are talking about a different exchange from Mintpal - in which case I'll shut my mouth. Smiley

Until the order book is more substantial I think we could see some dramatic swings in many coins... although obviously WC will likely be a bloodbath when/if it comes back.  Market movements (even amongst disparate properties) are contagious to some extent.  Rough waters ahead for a few hours perhaps.

I'm digging out some BTC paper wallets as we speak just in case. Smiley
(But I don't really expect anything too dramatic on the BC side - who knows... this might turn into a real bull-run as everyone flees shakier clone coins and returns to BC).
Well it is a bit conspiracy-theory - i did not only mean the lates price move on mintpal, but rather the "whole thing"  - the downward trend == price manipulation of BC started together with the whole WC scam and i would not be surprised if what we see now was exactly planned as it happened. There will be a few who get out of this mess with a lot of money...

Someone did vow to bring BC to its knees a while back........not saying any more  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
I'm wondering if there is someone out here that can make a professional youtube video for Blackcoin. Just like quark / bitcoin / peercoin have. But then in a more exclusive/classy way instead of too cartoonish.

I hereby donate 350 EUR / 490 USD to the first person that jumps in and can make one. Who's with me?

What are you looking for in the video
newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
I'm wondering if there is someone out here that can make a professional youtube video for Blackcoin. Just like quark / bitcoin / peercoin have. But then in a more exclusive/classy way instead of too cartoonish.

I hereby donate 350 EUR / 490 USD to the first person that jumps in and can make one. Who's with me?

There's this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJoqwefW5s
hero member
Activity: 623
Merit: 501
Right, so maybe, after taking over Wall Street, we should contact shop owners, investors, etc from Dubai, Katar, etc. too.

Why not ? Then get them visible here : www.blackcoinmap.com

Yep! I will lookup some contacts this week in my spare time  Wink
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
So WC bombs and someone's driving the price down for BC. guess where the money from the upcoming giant WC dump is supposed to go.

I wouldn't really call a 400sat move over a few minutes "driving the price down", especially when there's almost no volume to speak of on either side, but it's definitely lighter on the buy-side .  Unless you are talking about a different exchange from Mintpal - in which case I'll shut my mouth. Smiley

Until the order book is more substantial I think we could see some dramatic swings in many coins... although obviously WC will likely be a bloodbath when/if it comes back.  Market movements (even amongst disparate properties) are contagious to some extent.  Rough waters ahead for a few hours perhaps.

I'm digging out some BTC paper wallets as we speak just in case. Smiley
(But I don't really expect anything too dramatic on the BC side - who knows... this might turn into a real bull-run as everyone flees shakier clone coins and returns to BC).
Well it is a bit conspiracy-theory - i did not only mean the lates price move on mintpal, but rather the "whole thing"  - the downward trend == price manipulation of BC started together with the whole WC scam and i would not be surprised if what we see now was exactly planned as it happened. There will be a few who get out of this mess with a lot of money...
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
I'm wondering if there is someone out here that can make a professional youtube video for Blackcoin. Just like quark / bitcoin / peercoin have. But then in a more exclusive/classy way instead of too cartoonish.

I hereby donate 350 EUR / 490 USD to the first person that jumps in and can make one. Who's with me?
sr. member
Activity: 1009
Merit: 261
Right, so maybe, after taking over Wall Street, we should contact shop owners, investors, etc from Dubai, Katar, etc. too.

Why not ? Then get them visible here : www.blackcoinmap.com
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100

IE Im not sure what your trying to say "When things are attempted to be resolved behind the scenes the outcome is never good".
The Live podcast Idea was put forward by me, the team accepted my invitation. This was for the sole purpose of introducing them to the world. As you may know allot of people like to be anonymous in this types of things.  I was very surprised and Elated that they had agreed to come out and show face. Not only were they going to show face but they are going to answer questions from the community and news outlet media.  All i've seen is transparency from the team. Also because you have been such passionate community member and have put forward some good projects, I also tried to get you on or at least ask you some question. This in order to get your views and or takes on the team and upcoming projects. You Declined to be part of the podcast in an email to me to do because of Time. The way things are coming of from you are counter productive and I only wish that this would stop.

This was your original response

I spend very limited time on IRC.  It is easier for me to respond here because I keep this forum open on a separate monitor, and from time to time I check for new posts. I honestly do not have the time to do the telecast...I am shipping cards, handling my own company business that I can't ignore, and working on securing key partnerships for BC. Wall Street is not the only plans I am currently working on. In a few weeks when everything settles down I will be more than happy to participate in your telecast.

So basically you declined to be part of the telecast. I understand that your busy with a million things but why would anyone decline to be part of such important telecast, were you can actually have time to promote your projects.  I tried to reach to you to coordinate this so i would appreciate a retraction from the words "Trasparency"

Once again in terms of the question we are not only discussing your question but the communities and medias. Im not the type to instigate but to problem solve and you either work with the team or you work against the team.  Working against a team usually brings failure on both sides.  Is time to put personal feelings aside and think not for self but for others.

Thanks

Thank you for your comments. I do not believe in throwing people under the bus publicly unless it is 100% necessary, so I will let other people interpret my comments. I have hundreds of cards shipping out, and at the same time I am working on literally a dozen other things. The people who trusted me come first, and I am making sure orders are getting filled. The only reason why I post here is because this has become the hub for information. I clearly said I would do something with you in a few weeks. I also took the time to send you questions. I am not interested in fixing relations with Gritt. He is a liar and a ticking time bomb, and I have no clue how he and other people became "in charge". There are literally millions of dollars at stake, and Gritt's one dumb comment made me realize we need to make BC less decentralized. Not everyone mined these coins, some people invested their hard earned money. All this focus on "drama" is a smoke screen. I will ask one simple question:

What is the plan for BlackCoin?
sr. member
Activity: 411
Merit: 252
Call for testing.

Plan: testnet will work on current protocol for 1440 blocks and then switch to new one.

New changes are addressing some criticism of current protocol. And also optimizing CPU usage.

Compiled windows wallet https://mega.co.nz/#!jUIADJJL!xsFr1FlblR6GwcHL_cw35lL0g6uFLUVL0E_vjTaAS50
If you compile from sources use branch "protocolv2"
Building from source as I'm posting Sir Smiley
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Call for testing.

Plan: testnet will work on current protocol for 1440 blocks and then switch to new one.

New changes are addressing some criticism of current protocol. And also optimizing CPU usage.

Compiled windows wallet https://mega.co.nz/#!jUIADJJL!xsFr1FlblR6GwcHL_cw35lL0g6uFLUVL0E_vjTaAS50
If you compile from sources use branch "protocolv2"

Any more detail? Is there a change log?
hero member
Activity: 623
Merit: 501
I agree, this is definitely a coin for the Luxury Wealth market.  Why the hell would it be anything else?  

Blackcoin should be alluring and seductive as in all who get involved with Blackcoin will become that way.

Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.  This isn't kmartcoin.  
Right, so maybe, after taking over Wall Street, we should contact shop owners, investors, etc from Dubai, Katar, etc. too.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
So WC bombs and someone's driving the price down for BC. guess where the money from the upcoming giant WC dump is supposed to go.

I wouldn't really call a 400sat move over a few minutes "driving the price down", especially when there's almost no volume to speak of on either side, but it's definitely lighter on the buy-side .  Unless you are talking about a different exchange from Mintpal - in which case I'll shut my mouth. Smiley

Until the order book is more substantial I think we could see some dramatic swings in many coins... although obviously WC will likely be a bloodbath when/if it comes back.  Market movements (even amongst disparate properties) are contagious to some extent.  Rough waters ahead for a few hours perhaps.

I'm digging out some BTC paper wallets as we speak just in case. Smiley
(But I don't really expect anything too dramatic on the BC side - who knows... this might turn into a real bull-run as everyone flees shakier clone coins and returns to BC).
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
YOU, barabbas, have NO PLACE WHAT SO EVER MARKETING THIS COIN!!!! Yes i'm shouting, cause your attacking the most outspoken and helpful person in marketing here, and having a business degree myself, you my friend are DEAD WRONG. You show you really don't understand what your talking about, and then come across as your ideas are helpful in marketing this coin. LOL, far from it. If we left BC in your hands you'd run it to the ground. Hype is everything, and not sure what the prudes there think is so wrong about 50 sexy women, fully clothed to promote this coin is bad image.  Roll Eyes

Many companies use this tatic all the time, Go daddy commercials come to mind of top of head. We need to move fast with promotions, not slow and build merchants. You are an idiot. Without proper hype and advertising you get nowhere, don't care if we are the best, or have best stuff. We need promations of things we do have more, and hype and advertising for those we don't.

This is what I say to everyone skeptical of Iconic's Wall St. JUST STOP!!! Let him do this, and if he fails, or this turns out horrible, then we can really take a look at what is wrong, and fix it. But for now, we only have few members pushing this coin forward.

Saying this not to create FUD, but if it was not for people like Iconic here doing things with marketing, I'd cash out into another coin already. Sorry, but it's really what is 95% of the game, and you come on here trying to destroy moral.

WHO CARE IF ICONIC HAS AN EGO! I don't, he's doing things to make us all $$$, so who cares.

Look how fast the clones came out of BC? Things already have changed from DOGE days here, too many more coins. We are not worried about marketing to those in crypto community with this, it's getting more people on board. Those in community will see this and also take notice.

Alright, from this point forward can we just support him in this, please for sake of community. Enough infighting, lets support this marketing. Nothing ventured nothing gained. I'm 100% with you Iconic and hope other are too.

I sincerely appreciate your support and the support of everyone here. The past few days made me realize that there are a core group of people who want to see BC succeed, another group of people who think they belong to a central bank and want to privately control everything behind the scenes, and another group of people ready to attack anyone that suggests projects or ideas. I have decided to work with other members of this community who want transparency and we will be presenting ideas publicly. The price of BC has been dropping steadily for nearly 2 weeks, and no plan has been publicly posted by the dev team. I am completely shocked that a press release was not issued immediately after Vault Of Satoshi announced they would be adding BC. We need marketing and "business" plans. We need goals, and we also need talented people willing to join in. I get so many PMs from people with amazing ideas but they are afraid to come forward because ideas are shot down around here, that stops today! I and many others believe in this coin and I am done leaving it solely in the hands of people who are more focused about keeping "control" than doing what is good for the community.

I posted this earlier and it got lost in chaos of everything: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6489848
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 503
Transparency - Podcast Questions

Most of you know I believe in transparency. When things are attempted to be resolved behind the scenes the outcome is never good. From this point on I will be coordinating with the community exclusively. Whatever ideas or plans I am working on I will share openly with everyone so we can brainstorm together. I have lost confidence in certain members of the development team for numerous reasons, and I think more control needs to be given back to the general community. In the "real world" I would never entrust a multi-million dollar project to people who have never run a business before, and I do not intend on doing it now. I will not be coordinating with the development team privately anymore, if they wish to join our discussions or projects publicly they are more than welcome to. I would like to make it clear that everyone who owns BC has a right to voice his or her concerns. It does not matter if you own 20BC or 2000000BC. Just because someone owns a significant amount of BC does not gives them the right to attempt to force their will on others. This is not the spirit of crypto and I have had enough.

Yesterday I was asked to participate in the podcast being held today. Unfortunately with shipping the cards and other matters I will not be able to participate. However, I was given the opportunity to submit questions and I would like to share them with the community.

What experience does the dev team have?

How were the people on the dev team selected?

What is the marketing plan for the next several months?

Why haven't there been a press release about being added to Vault Of Satoshi?

Why have't the dev team sponsored the Wall Street event?

Why doesn't the dev team spend more time on BitcoinTalk since that is where most people interact?

Why haven't the dev tram been more open with their plans? It seems everything is kept secret.

What is being done to differentiate BlackCoin from other alt coins?

Thank you...



IE Im not sure what your trying to say "When things are attempted to be resolved behind the scenes the outcome is never good".
The Live podcast Idea was put forward by me, the team accepted my invitation. This was for the sole purpose of introducing them to the world. As you may know allot of people like to be anonymous in this types of things.  I was very surprised and Elated that they had agreed to come out and show face. Not only were they going to show face but they are going to answer questions from the community and news outlet media.  All i've seen is transparency from the team. Also because you have been such passionate community member and have put forward some good projects, I also tried to get you on or at least ask you some question. This in order to get your views and or takes on the team and upcoming projects. You Declined to be part of the podcast in an email to me to do because of Time. The way things are coming of from you are counter productive and I only wish that this would stop.

This was your original response

I spend very limited time on IRC.  It is easier for me to respond here because I keep this forum open on a separate monitor, and from time to time I check for new posts. I honestly do not have the time to do the telecast...I am shipping cards, handling my own company business that I can't ignore, and working on securing key partnerships for BC. Wall Street is not the only plans I am currently working on. In a few weeks when everything settles down I will be more than happy to participate in your telecast.

So basically you declined to be part of the telecast. I understand that your busy with a million things but why would anyone decline to be part of such important telecast, were you can actually have time to promote your projects.  I tried to reach to you to coordinate this so i would appreciate a retraction from the words "Trasparency"

Once again in terms of the question we are not only discussing your question but the communities and medias. Im not the type to instigate but to problem solve and you either work with the team or you work against the team.  Working against a team usually brings failure on both sides.  Is time to put personal feelings aside and think not for self but for others.

Thanks
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250

The reality (IMO at least) is that neither is good enough for the very long term.  We will eventually see the demise of both as there is further problems with PoW (at least as implemented in BTC and derivative coins as well, obviously) as difficulty and rewards fall below profitability.  I don't really consider PoS as a better means of securing the blockchain than PoW - just a faster and less biased one.  Certainly, you can argue that PoS still favors the largest wallet holders - but that still prevents a large part of the incentive for attempting attacks.


Hey, you described the weakness of PoW and why PoS is more secure. However, first you said you expect the demise of both PoS and PoW. What weakness do you see in PoS? The problem of multiple forks all being supported?

Actually, it appears we'll get to see this play out in realtime with WC - as Mintpal is reporting that they've had a successful doublespend attack (remember those guys saying they controlled 51% of the coins... guess they did).  The problem I see with PoS is simply the loss of confidence in the PoS model itself.  There is nothing IMO that is inherently less secure about it vs. PoW... but there is also nothing that makes it inherently more secure either.  Definitely the multi-fork possibility is dangerous - more to the image of PoS securing the blockchain than in and of itself - but I think it more will come down to a poorly distributed coin, with dubious membership...

And that is why we must watch WC and learn for what comes next.  I think it will improve BC's standing personally - although it will likely kill all the lesser clone coins coming up right now... I mean comparitively WC is a giant to orange, or blue, or whatever color is launching next week.  So if it was first a scam, and then second a fraud-catalyst... that can't look good for coins with even less market cap and even worse distribution models.

Time will only tell how bad it might be however - for any of us.

If i am not mistaken, rat4 already has a new implementation of POS, and it is currently being tested on testnet

He did and it is... don't misunderstand my reason for the post - the WC 'implosion' does not reflect on BC's security whatsoever - even in it's current form.  Remember they had NO security... PoW finished and there was NO STAKING AT ALL for their wallets.  Then people stepped in to make a hurried fix... and obviously other people (MoosaNYC from BTC-e being one of them) already had plans in place for this.  At least that's my take on it.
sr. member
Activity: 416
Merit: 250

The reality (IMO at least) is that neither is good enough for the very long term.  We will eventually see the demise of both as there is further problems with PoW (at least as implemented in BTC and derivative coins as well, obviously) as difficulty and rewards fall below profitability.  I don't really consider PoS as a better means of securing the blockchain than PoW - just a faster and less biased one.  Certainly, you can argue that PoS still favors the largest wallet holders - but that still prevents a large part of the incentive for attempting attacks.


Hey, you described the weakness of PoW and why PoS is more secure. However, first you said you expect the demise of both PoS and PoW. What weakness do you see in PoS? The problem of multiple forks all being supported?

Actually, it appears we'll get to see this play out in realtime with WC - as Mintpal is reporting that they've had a successful doublespend attack (remember those guys saying they controlled 51% of the coins... guess they did).  The problem I see with PoS is simply the loss of confidence in the PoS model itself.  There is nothing IMO that is inherently less secure about it vs. PoW... but there is also nothing that makes it inherently more secure either.  Definitely the multi-fork possibility is dangerous - more to the image of PoS securing the blockchain than in and of itself - but I think it more will come down to a poorly distributed coin, with dubious membership...

And that is why we must watch WC and learn for what comes next.  I think it will improve BC's standing personally - although it will likely kill all the lesser clone coins coming up right now... I mean comparitively WC is a giant to orange, or blue, or whatever color is launching next week.  So if it was first a scam, and then second a fraud-catalyst... that can't look good for coins with even less market cap and even worse distribution models.

Time will only tell how bad it might be however - for any of us.

If i am not mistaken, rat4 already has a new implementation of POS, and it is currently being tested on testnet

Interesting. How does it work?

Now maybe there will be three POS models  Grin

rat4 posted a few pages back.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500

The reality (IMO at least) is that neither is good enough for the very long term.  We will eventually see the demise of both as there is further problems with PoW (at least as implemented in BTC and derivative coins as well, obviously) as difficulty and rewards fall below profitability.  I don't really consider PoS as a better means of securing the blockchain than PoW - just a faster and less biased one.  Certainly, you can argue that PoS still favors the largest wallet holders - but that still prevents a large part of the incentive for attempting attacks.


Hey, you described the weakness of PoW and why PoS is more secure. However, first you said you expect the demise of both PoS and PoW. What weakness do you see in PoS? The problem of multiple forks all being supported?

Actually, it appears we'll get to see this play out in realtime with WC - as Mintpal is reporting that they've had a successful doublespend attack (remember those guys saying they controlled 51% of the coins... guess they did).  The problem I see with PoS is simply the loss of confidence in the PoS model itself.  There is nothing IMO that is inherently less secure about it vs. PoW... but there is also nothing that makes it inherently more secure either.  Definitely the multi-fork possibility is dangerous - more to the image of PoS securing the blockchain than in and of itself - but I think it more will come down to a poorly distributed coin, with dubious membership...

And that is why we must watch WC and learn for what comes next.  I think it will improve BC's standing personally - although it will likely kill all the lesser clone coins coming up right now... I mean comparitively WC is a giant to orange, or blue, or whatever color is launching next week.  So if it was first a scam, and then second a fraud-catalyst... that can't look good for coins with even less market cap and even worse distribution models.

Time will only tell how bad it might be however - for any of us.

If i am not mistaken, rat4 already has a new implementation of POS, and it is currently being tested on testnet

Interesting. How does it work?

Now maybe there will be three POS models  Grin
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
So WC bombs and someone's driving the price down for BC. guess where the money from the upcoming giant WC dump is supposed to go.
Jump to: