Topic: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 25. (Read 92830 times)

Just a small correction.
ChipMixer doesn't use the V2 link anymore.

By the way:
Scammers also display @ChipMixer's email on their website. Guess how many messages he received from people ripped off...


I was there 1-2 days ago. Probably a maintenance going on.

Actually, it's easy: ChipMixer only owns these sites:
(only one clearnet domain)

The fake site showing the real .onion is only meant to trick people into believing it's the real site (and judging by your post: it works!). They know that clearnet-users won't switch to .onion if they don't have to.

Previous post is edited with this information, thank you for reminding me.
I totally forgot about yahoo search dinosaur, maybe because I never use it, and you can't even search anything without agreeing to accept some of their tracking cookies.

Yeah, I know.
For all search providers I used default options, that is something majority of people would do.
There are few other search engines based on meta data that was not included, and one called Presearch that is showing xyz website in first place and real Chipmixer in third place.

Note that Startpage simply returns Google results but without all the trackers and privacy invasion, so if Google's results are filled with scams, then so will Startpage's.
SearX similarly pulls results from other search engines and strips all the tracking data. You can see which engines it uses by going to Preferences -> Engines. It defaults to Google, so the same will apply unless you manually choose different search engines to use.

I would add yahoo.com unjustly neglected here, also the first result is a legit .com site. The next two are chipmixér.com and domain with .co extension. Both of them had a legit onion address at the bottom of the page, so it is difficult to determine whether these domains are really owned by the original Chipmixer.

I checked few more alternative search engines with term ''Chipmixer'' without domain name.
This is the results I got:

qwant.com search: Legit Chipmixer website is in the first place on top, followed by several fake scams.
duckduckgo.com search: Legit Chipmixer website is also in the first place on top, followed by several fake scams.
yandex.com search: Legit Chipmixer website is in the first place on top, and bitcointalk ANN topic is in 3rd place.
bing.com search: Legit Chipmixer website is in the first place on top, followed by several fake scams.
yahoo.com search: Legit Chipmixer website is in the first place on top, followed by several fake scams.
startpage.com search: I can't find legit Chipmixer website, and xyz scam domain is on top, but there is bitcointalk ANN topic in 5th place.
searx.be  search: I can't find legit Chipmixer website, and xyz scam domain is on top, but there is bitcointalk ANN topic in 6th place.
brave.com search: I can't find legit Chipmixer website, and xyz scam domain is on top; there are youtube videos with fake website on top.
baidu.com search: Showing only articles about hacks and scams.
presearch: seach: First search result is showing xyz scam, and real Chipmixer website is shown in third place.
youtube.com search: Showing mostly videos with fake chipmixer scam domains.

Best search engines for Chipmixer seems to be Qwant, Bing, Yandex and DuckDuckGo.
Most problematic results for me are coming from youtube (google) with many misleading video tutorials.
Note that I excluded results coming from g-search.

That's great news ^{[bolded part]}, but we shouldn't rely too much on how Google shows us these results ^{[because of "certain things", each one of us gets slightly different results]}.
^{- Despite posting a few times on this thread, the ANN thread doesn't even appear for me on the first page!}

Things seem to have changed again. The fake .xyz site is at the top again, the DarknetOne site is 2nd, and this ANN thread is in the 5th place.
But there are good news from DuckDuckGo. A search for "chipmixer" now results in https://chipmixer.com/ being the first search result. The site was nowhere to be found the last time I tried it.

The .xyz site has fallen from it's perch atop google's search results.  The fake "dark net" site has claimed that spot.  Still no sign of chipmixer.com on the front page, but at least chipmixer's profile here on the forum is now the 4th result.  That's an improvement.

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If you used a clearnet link, then you're probably a victim of phishing websites ^{[I hope I'm wrong, but lately, there have been a lot of targeted attacks on ChipMixer]}.

Thanks @SFR10 I used the .onion link thankfully I double checked and made sure it was the correct link. I’ve reached out to support just waiting on a response. I’ve been researching and a lot of people say it’s easier to get in contact with “ChipMixer” here on BitcoinTalk.

If you used a clearnet link, then you're probably a victim of phishing websites ^{[I hope I'm wrong, but lately, there have been a lot of targeted attacks on ChipMixer]}.

• Quote from: ChipMixer on May 20, 2022, 08:53:02 PM
  .com is now online. It does not allow mixing. It is used for informational purposes only.
  

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Here you go: [email protected]

Hi guys I’m new to BitcoinTalk I’m currently having trouble with ChipMixer at the moment, my deposit is not showing up but when I check the deposit address on the blockchain it shows my BTC has been deposited. Is there any support I can rewatch out to in regards to this matter, I’m a Avid user of ChipMixer and this is my first time running into this issue, I’m hoping someone could help me out or lead me into the right direction. Thank you guys in advance.

That is only possible with a clearnet server and would be exposed to the same problems as clearnet mirror was.
Redirecting would also state the darknet address as legitimate. That could be a problem.

Real Chipmixer never scammed anyone, even very high amounts were processed smoothly.
However, I am still aware of there is no letter of guarantee, as the mixing process does not support that.
Signed receipts means the server is able to sign and has a private key.
I would be happy to see signed deposit addresses. This can be another part of security.
(Being aware of scam sites can generate legit CM addresses and copy signed message to fake sites, this should contain time of generation and session.)

That's incorrect. Even ChipMixer's captcha works with no javascript.

You must be thinking about Google's ReCaptcha, which does require js.

To support Captcha, it is necessary to activate JavaScript in browsing, which leads to the leakage of some data. This was the way in which the location of the founder of the Silk Road was discovered.

Is there an easy way to remember that site, maybe @Chipmixer should buy/add a domain/sub that redirects the Onion address or create something that makes the address recognizable.

Adding captchas to any website is trivial thing and if I remember correctly I saw several scam services that used them in past, so this won't protect you from anything.
I would suggest everyone to report this phishing website that first started to clone new Chipmixer homepage.
It's interesting to see that this scammers even copied tor link that they changed domain from .onion to .onl that works in clearnet  



And this is how original Chipmixer looks like with proper onion domain:

Don't blame anyone other than the scammers, that's not helpful.  Dkbit98's prediction was the obvious next move whether it was mentioned or not. 

The funniest part is that the scammers "onion" address is actually a clear-net address with chipmixer's real prefix.  Anyone who's used tor would know that's a big red flag right away, so hopefully it won't trick too many people.  If only these scamming clowns would put as much effort into a legitimate business as they do into scamming, they would probably make a comfortable income for themselves. 

Looks like chipmlxer.com (SCAM!) just got a nice idea from you 

However, this is the most advanced scam, even maintaining session expiration time and renew/restore.

I think the new API is really nice but it is a matter of time until scam sites will use it:
Checking and redeeming sessions and vouchers entered or even providing fully functional scam sites, scamming only higher amounts to gain trust.
For sure, the latter can be done with own infrastructure, but with much more effort.

All scam sites lack captcha, just as observation.
Captcha is to protect from DoS, I think. That is also a problem for API, isnt it?
I think API is (or will get) a nightmare.

Anyone has a clue about how many these sites are making? I would start monitoring on my own otherwise.

It's been months since I personally reported a few fake CM sites to that same link you posted, but nothing has happened. I doubt that these reports are handled by people at all, and their AI is clearly too unintelligent to discern the good from the bad.

If we were to go into conspiracy theories, maybe the whole point is not for someone to make a profit by scamming potential users, but just to do harm to CM.

It's been a week and a half since I reported the .xyz site (I hope I wasn't the only one,) but it still tops the search results on google.  A friend called me the other day, asking if the .xyz site was the legit one or not.  The last time he used chipmixer I walked him through using tor.  He said he was about to send the coins but it felt too easy, so he figured it must be a scam, lol.  Good call!

I told him to bookmark chipmixer.com, which he had not done.  He did bookmark the tor site in torbrowser, but had forgotten about all that, which is why he searched for it.  Just another lesson about the importance of bookmarking sites you use for financial transactions.