[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 26.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on May 30, 2022, 01:47:27 PM

It's been a week and a half since I reported the .xyz site (I hope I wasn't the only one,) but it still tops the search results on google.

It's been months since I personally reported a few fake CM sites to that same link you posted, but nothing has happened. I doubt that these reports are handled by people at all, and their AI is clearly too unintelligent to discern the good from the bad.

If we were to go into conspiracy theories, maybe the whole point is not for someone to make a profit by scamming potential users, but just to do harm to CM.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on May 21, 2022, 02:07:15 PM

Quote from: ChipMixer on May 20, 2022, 08:53:02 PM

.com is now online. It does not allow mixing. It is used for informational purposes only.

I am glad to see .com is back and I like this approach, but it's going to be interesting to see how long until phishing domain do the same thing, linking to their own scam onion link.
I checked some of them and their domains still have old clearnet mixing page.

It's been a week and a half since I reported the .xyz site (I hope I wasn't the only one,) but it still tops the search results on google. A friend called me the other day, asking if the .xyz site was the legit one or not. The last time he used chipmixer I walked him through using tor. He said he was about to send the coins but it felt too easy, so he figured it must be a scam, lol. Good call!

I told him to bookmark chipmixer.com, which he had not done. He did bookmark the tor site in torbrowser, but had forgotten about all that, which is why he searched for it. Just another lesson about the importance of bookmarking sites you use for financial transactions.

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Quote from: ChipMixer on May 20, 2022, 08:53:02 PM

.com is now online. It does not allow mixing. It is used for informational purposes only.

I am glad to see .com is back and I like this approach, but it's going to be interesting to see how long until phishing domain do the same thing, linking to their own scam onion link.
I checked some of them and their domains still have old clearnet mixing page.

PS
Maybe you should add additional information that .com is only official clearnet domain and everything else is used for phishing scam.

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Glad to see it back online. There is a link to the Bitcointalk announcement page as well. Nice!
Hopefully, Google will include the official site in their search results one day as well.

But other search engines such as DuckDuckGo aren't any better either. When you do a search on "chipmixer", you have 4 fake sites among the first 4 results. chipminxer.com, chipmixér.com, chipmlxer.com/, and chipmixres.com. PLEASE DON'T VISIT THESE SITES!
I didn't check beyond the first couple of results, but there are surely more.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on May 14, 2022, 03:04:13 PM

Since the clearnet domain is facing a lot of attacks, shouldn't the better solution be that the clearnet be just used for informational purposes about Chipmixer and also a link to the tor version that the users can use to mixer coins. More like a move pushing users to mix through the tor version.

This is solution that was decided.

.com is now online. It does not allow mixing. It is used for informational purposes only.

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Quote from: LoyceV on May 19, 2022, 11:31:50 AM

I don't think relying on a third-party website (Bitcointalk) as a primary source for the real URL is a good idea...

You can't rely on Google either. They obviously don't know what they are doing or they don't care.

Quote from: LoyceV on May 19, 2022, 11:31:50 AM

and I'm not sure how many people are going to verify it.

That's their problem. It's like clicking on phishing links, downloading fake software, and not verifying it. What can be done is to inform them about the dangers of such actions and recommend what should be done. If they are smarter or don't want to listen, they will face the consequences.

Quote from: LoyceV on May 19, 2022, 11:31:50 AM

But I've seen confused users who weren't sure what the real URL is.

There you go. Direct them to multiple sources where they can check the real .onion link. If Google interferes again and messes up or a new clearnet site goes down or gets redirected, there is always this ANN thread that should serve as official information. Bitcointalk hasn't had a serious security breach for several years, so the forum is quite reliable.

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Quote from: ChipMixer on May 18, 2022, 05:31:26 PM

Quote from: examplens on May 18, 2022, 05:06:32 AM

by searching through Google the first result directs me to chipmixer domain with .xyz extension, with a very similar (maybe even identical) design there is easy to make a mistake.

.com has been removed by Google as copyright offender. See here:

Quote from: stompix on April 14, 2022, 01:58:46 PM

Google received a complaint from the .online domain and it got the original .com domain removed from searches because of this?

this is really amazing to me that Google made a reaction like this on the report of a site that is significantly younger than the original.
I would even think that the site (.online) in question is the property of the original Chipmixer owner, In the bottom, we can see a link to real chipmixer .onion (chipmixorflykuxu56uxy7gf5o6ggig7xru7dnihc4fm4cxqsc63e6id.onion) page. or is it just a trick to deceive users in their impersonation?

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on May 19, 2022, 02:18:31 PM

I think we need to fight fire with fire. I suspect that the scammer behind the .xyz site spammed google with "legal removal" requests, probably with a bunch of different google accounts.

I've just reported the .xyz site as malware using the link below. I suggest we all submit a report, making it hard for google to ignore.

https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_badware/?hl=en

as far as I've seen, most TLD extension with "chipmixer" is taken, they should all be checked, and those that use the same or similar visual identity as the Chipmixer needs to be reported. .online also.

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I think we need to fight fire with fire. I suspect that the scammer behind the .xyz site spammed google with "legal removal" requests, probably with a bunch of different google accounts.

I've just reported the .xyz site as malware using the link below. I suggest we all submit a report, making it hard for google to ignore.

https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_badware/?hl=en

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Quote from: LoyceV on May 19, 2022, 11:31:50 AM

Quote from: Pmalek on May 19, 2022, 06:55:59 AM

They should definitely create a new clearnet website since the old one no longer works, but there shouldn't be a link to the onion website. Instead they should link to this ANN thread and instruct users to check the OP where the correct onion link is posted. Or at least ask customers to verify that the posted onion link on the clearnet site is the same as the one that appears in the Bitcoin ANN. Just in case the clearnet version gets hacked and someone posts a link to a fake mixer. Someone could of course post a link to the wrong Bitcointalk thread or a completely different source, but I think the potential damages are smaller by linking to the ANN thread as well.

I don't think relying on a third-party website (Bitcointalk) as a primary source for the real URL is a good idea, and I'm not sure how many people are going to verify it. But I've seen confused users who weren't sure what the real URL is.

I think the reasoning would be that this site is harder to interrupt/ddos due to cloudflare and I'm not sure liky it'd be that chipmixer could get and host a cloudflare account (eg kyc might be needed and if ddosed too much they might be suspended/charged more).

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Quote from: Pmalek on May 19, 2022, 06:55:59 AM

They should definitely create a new clearnet website since the old one no longer works, but there shouldn't be a link to the onion website. Instead they should link to this ANN thread and instruct users to check the OP where the correct onion link is posted. Or at least ask customers to verify that the posted onion link on the clearnet site is the same as the one that appears in the Bitcoin ANN. Just in case the clearnet version gets hacked and someone posts a link to a fake mixer. Someone could of course post a link to the wrong Bitcointalk thread or a completely different source, but I think the potential damages are smaller by linking to the ANN thread as well.

I don't think relying on a third-party website (Bitcointalk) as a primary source for the real URL is a good idea, and I'm not sure how many people are going to verify it. But I've seen confused users who weren't sure what the real URL is.

Quote from: dkbit98 on May 19, 2022, 09:19:45 AM

Wtf?! I don't understand how google can do this, unless they are already operated only by robots!

Probably for the same reason as keeping multiple phishing sites on top of the first search page: they don't care.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on May 19, 2022, 09:19:45 AM

I have no idea how to fix this, but one possible solution would be rebranding, or making Chipmixer wallet.

Or just don't have a .com. ChipMixer is dominating in bitcointalk in spite of everything. As I've already said, it'd be better to just link users here, in the ANN thread. Then, they can read a summary of what's ChipMixer or/and just click the onion link.

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Quote from: ChipMixer on May 18, 2022, 05:31:26 PM

.com has been removed by Google as copyright offender.

Wtf?! I don't understand how google can do this, unless they are already operated only by robots!
Original Chipmixer.com domain was registered in 2016 and .online domain registered five years later in 2021, they could even check archived pages.
I have no idea how to fix this, but one possible solution would be rebranding, or making Chipmixer wallet.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on May 14, 2022, 03:04:13 PM

Since the clearnet domain is facing a lot of attacks, shouldn't the better solution be that the clearnet be just used for informational purposes about Chipmixer and also a link to the tor version that the users can use to mixer coins. More like a move pushing users to mix through the tor version.

I would like to tweak that suggestion of yours a little bit. They should definitely create a new clearnet website since the old one no longer works, but there shouldn't be a link to the onion website. Instead they should link to this ANN thread and instruct users to check the OP where the correct onion link is posted. Or at least ask customers to verify that the posted onion link on the clearnet site is the same as the one that appears in the Bitcoin ANN. Just in case the clearnet version gets hacked and someone posts a link to a fake mixer. Someone could of course post a link to the wrong Bitcointalk thread or a completely different source, but I think the potential damages are smaller by linking to the ANN thread as well.

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Quote from: examplens on May 18, 2022, 05:06:32 AM

by searching through Google the first result directs me to chipmixer domain with .xyz extension, with a very similar (maybe even identical) design there is easy to make a mistake.

.com has been removed by Google as copyright offender. See here:

Quote from: stompix on April 14, 2022, 01:58:46 PM

Google received a complaint from the .online domain and it got the original .com domain removed from searches because of this?

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Quote from: JeromeTash on May 14, 2022, 03:04:13 PM

Just wondering @ChipMixer

Since the clearnet domain is facing a lot of attacks, shouldn't the better solution be that the clearnet be just used for informational purposes about Chipmixer and also a link to the tor version that the users can use to mixer coins. More like a move pushing users to mix through the tor version.

I would say this is mandatory. They may temporarily lease another server and host a simple information page about what's going on and direct traffic to the onion address. by searching through Google the first result directs me to chipmixer domain with .xyz extension, with a very similar (maybe even identical) design there is easy to make a mistake.

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Since the clearnet domain is facing a lot of attacks, shouldn't the better solution be that the clearnet be just used for informational purposes about Chipmixer and also a link to the tor version that the users can use to mixer coins. More like a move pushing users to mix through the tor version.

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Quote from: david191919 on May 10, 2022, 10:12:50 AM

I have sent you an email and have never heard back!

If you sent email May 4th and never received our response then send us another email: [email protected]

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Quote from: david191919 on May 10, 2022, 10:12:50 AM

I lost my deposit, I made a deposit on May 4th, 2022, I have never received them, and I have sent you an email and have never heard back!
I used gmail to contact you, I don't know if this worked for you!

Did you load ChipMixer from Tor? That's the only way to use the legitimate ChipMixer at the moment.

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I lost my deposit, I made a deposit on May 4th, 2022, I have never received them, and I have sent you an email and have never heard back!
I used gmail to contact you, I don't know if this worked for you!

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Quote from: blac on May 09, 2022, 01:14:13 PM

Is the onion site down now too? Had initiated a deposit, and went to withdraw and not cant connect to the site?

Quote from: ChipMixer on May 26, 2017, 05:01:37 PM

Tor v3 link: http://chipmixorflykuxu56uxy7gf5o6ggig7xru7dnihc4fm4cxqsc63e6id.onion (chip mix or fly, new Segwit)

I just double checked now opening Chipmixer onion website, started mixing and everything works just fine fine for me.
Are you 100% sure you used correct v3 onion website (quoted link posted above), and have you tried restarting Tor browser?
You can always Restore your Session if you saved Session Token.

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