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Topic: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 35. (Read 92520 times)

legendary
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I'm actually kind of sad to see the current state of DDos'ing... I use my company's laptop 90% of the time, and i'm not allowed to install the tor browser (blacklisted due to company policy). I did beta test using my cellphone, it works great tough... Good job Smiley
Are you allowed to install Brave browser? I would not use it as a main browser but there is also Tor integrated inside Brave browser that would make easy getting around those rules of your company..
I am not saying you should do that Wink

Another idea would be to install a virtual machine onto that laptop and install this kind of things onto the VM, which you can easily dispose completely.
Or you can boot from a Tails USB, and tails comes with Tor browser too.

So there are some ways. Clearly not as comfortable as installing Tor browser directly, still...
legendary
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Merit: 7064
I'm actually kind of sad to see the current state of DDos'ing... I use my company's laptop 90% of the time, and i'm not allowed to install the tor browser (blacklisted due to company policy). I did beta test using my cellphone, it works great tough... Good job Smiley
Are you allowed to install Brave browser? I would not use it as a main browser but there is also Tor integrated inside Brave browser that would make easy getting around those rules of your company.
I am not saying you should do that Wink

I got curious, so I checked how many addresses are funded with each respective balance.
This is significantly less than addresses starting with 1 but it will slowly grow in time.


legendary
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support for bc1 segwit addresses.

I think that privacy will be improved
I got curious, so I checked how many addresses are funded with each respective balance.

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legendary
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bar the brief moment when I though I'd been given an empty private key because I imported it as legacy (force of habit!) instead of segwit

Although the withdraw page has the correct Electrum prefixes if "Import to Electrum" is clicked, I think that it could be useful to add a red "(p2pkh:)" where the page tells:

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Importing them into Electrum they may require special prefix

But I agree, the topic is covered, people have to just read Smiley

And yes, I've also tried it out the ToR v3 link (thank you @ChipMixer for being kind and let us try it out). All went smoothly, no problems at all!
legendary
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I think that privacy will be improved even more when Taproot goes mainnet for Bitcoin in few months, so my question is will ChipMixer also benefit from this?\
No. Taproot primarily benefits scripting whereby not all of the possible spending conditions are fulfilled revealed and specifically, Schnorr signatures allows for PK aggregation.

Neither of those are current ChipMixer's usecase, where the private keys are prepared before the user initiates a session and the addresses are normal P2PKH or P2WPKH.
legendary
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New Chipmixer Tor v3 worked very good during my testing and I am especially happy to finally see support for bc1 segwit addresses.

I think that privacy will be improved even more when Taproot goes mainnet for Bitcoin in few months, so my question is will ChipMixer also benefit from this?
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
Also, destroying the session seems to work alright generating a new id and address.
I had a somewhat different experience while using the Tor browser... When I tried starting a new mix immediately after destroying the session, I still kept seeing/getting the previous session same ID/address but that wasn't an issue when I relaunched my browser.

Force of habit, I dislike even using the same id for multiple sites in a row, I always close down and restart the connection or at least get a new identity after completing something over Tor, so after finishing and destroying it gave me a new session id, I tried recovering the older session there was nothing there so the destroying part worked and I didn't look twice over it, focused on restoring so indeed I missed one part there. But yeah, it keeps your session if you go right back you start from scratch with the same.
legendary
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Also, destroying the session seems to work alright generating a new id and address.
I had a somewhat different experience while using the Tor browser... When I tried starting a new mix [immediately after destroying the session], I still kept seeing/getting the previous session [same ID/address] but that wasn't an issue when I relaunched my browser.
- Not sure if that's how the Tor browser normally reacts since I rarely use it.

@ChipMixer
Thank you for allowing us to test v3 Smiley
hero member
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What about putting the fully functioning clearnet site behind Cloudflare, but simply displaying large warnings all over it that it is using Cloudflare along with links and recommendations to use the Tor site and explanations why, rather than just having a landing page with no mixing functions on the clearnet site? That way people who might just want to test it out, or are using some public computer without Tor, or for whom Tor is difficult to run due to ISP or government restrictions,* or just want to break the blockchain link and aren't worried about Cloudflare, etc., can still mix their coins while still being aware of the reduced privacy and increased risks they are taking?

I like this suggestion. There's probably a lot of people like me that want the privacy of it not being public knowledge how much coin I have or where it came from but have nothing to hide from the NSA.
sr. member
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@ChipMixer: Please disregard the PM I sent you, importing the private keys worked just fine after reading o_e_l_e_o's post above. Smartass that I am I didn't click on the "Import to Electrum" button but directly copy / pasted the private key from the "Withdraw" page. Also of course I didn't read the note about Electrum requiring a special prefix. Maybe put that part in bold? Not sure. Either way I didn't realize there was new information on that page, blinded by routine I guess.
There was no note when you tried it. It was added after your (and other person) feedback.

Tor v3 version of ChipMixer is now online: http://chipmixorflykuxu56uxy7gf5o6ggig7xru7dnihc4fm4cxqsc63e6id.onion (chip mix or fly)
It supports Segwit deposit addresses and chips may also be Segwit.
legendary
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Yep, had the same issue importing the private-keys without the p2wpkh: prefix. If we all made the same mistake, imagine the other less-tech-savvy users. Tongue

An extra warning will probably save you some desperate emails (e.g "some wallets - like Electrum - require extra steps, use the button for their instructions").
legendary
Activity: 2912
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I've also tested the new v3 site and I've tried my hardest to break something, but to no avail. It all worked very smoothly, bar the brief moment when I though I'd been given an empty private key because I imported it as legacy (force of habit!) instead of segwit. Also very nice that you can split deposits up in to multiple different vouchers.

Oooohh! That happened to me as well, except I wasn't smart enough to realize this by myself. Thanks o_e_l_e_o!

@ChipMixer: Please disregard the PM I sent you, importing the private keys worked just fine after reading o_e_l_e_o's post above. Smartass that I am I didn't click on the "Import to Electrum" button but directly copy / pasted the private key from the "Withdraw" page. Also of course I didn't read the note about Electrum requiring a special prefix. Maybe put that part in bold? Not sure. Either way I didn't realize there was new information on that page, blinded by routine I guess.
legendary
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Most of them already does. New users (both to mixing and bitcoin) use .com and we want to protect them from it.
What about putting the fully functioning clearnet site behind Cloudflare, but simply displaying large warnings all over it that it is using Cloudflare along with links and recommendations to use the Tor site and explanations why, rather than just having a landing page with no mixing functions on the clearnet site? That way people who might just want to test it out, or are using some public computer without Tor, or for whom Tor is difficult to run due to ISP or government restrictions,* or just want to break the blockchain link and aren't worried about Cloudflare, etc., can still mix their coins while still being aware of the reduced privacy and increased risks they are taking?

*Yes, I know about Tor bridges, but not everyone does or knows how to set them up.



I've also tested the new v3 site and I've tried my hardest to break something, but to no avail. It all worked very smoothly, bar the brief moment when I though I'd been given an empty private key because I imported it as legacy (force of habit!) instead of segwit. Also very nice that you can split deposits up in to multiple different vouchers.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
I did play a bit with the new test site and everything went smoothly
redeemed voucher, split it for fun, withdraw, imported private keys
deposited coins, split the chips, recombined, went again to withdraw,
deposited, moved to a wm restored the session, created a voucher, nothing wrong.
Also, destroying the session seems to work alright generating a new id and address.

Nice seeing segwit, should lower costs for both sides, I don't know how long we would still be able to enjoy 1sat/b next block confirmation.



staff
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Hopefully you didn't fall for a scam site BTCagent87. Which URL did you use?

@chipmixer
Thanks for the opportunity to participate in the V3 test. It worked smoothly and I couldn't find any problems!
I have tested it via Brave Browser.
newbie
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Hello Smiley

Made payment

There are already more than 6 confirmations,
but there are still no keys (((

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9a2bd3b286a01a6ab714328a5f40b87becdd7633d09ac6552fd0762c77d34715

Please check my request!
sr. member
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935098
I have no idea what percentage of users uses it already, but for whoever doesn't use it yet: it's amazingly easy! If you haven't tried it yet, I recommend to at least download and try Tor browser.
Most of them already does. New users (both to mixing and bitcoin) use .com and we want to protect them from it.

Can someone give me an article, or explain, why the Tor's website can't be DDoS-ed same like clearnet's is?
It can be DDoSed. Main advantage here is DDoSing .onion will not remove it from Google. DDoSing .com will remove it and will make phishing websites earn more.


How about this:
  • Put chipmixer.com behind Cloudflare, with only a landing page.
  • The landing page shows a link to Tor browser, .onion URL and a link to a (newly created) clearnet URL without Cloudflare.
  • The URL without Cloudflare can be for instance nocloudflare.chipmixer.com. If there's no DDOS, it's available. During DDOS, the landing page is still available to point towards the .onion site.
  • This way, Cloudflare only knows you visited the clearnet landing page.
This is very good idea.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
I think people would prefer a ChipMixer wallet to cloudflare, actually they would prefer a root canal me thinks.
newbie
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Hello! Once again, there were problems with receiving chips after the transaction received 3 confirmations. I paid according to the specified details, but did not receive the chips after the funds were credited to your wallet. I sent you a ticket from [email protected]
Please process it.
legendary
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How about this:
  • Put chipmixer.com behind Cloudflare, with only a landing page.
  • The landing page shows a link to Tor browser, .onion URL and a link to a (newly created) clearnet URL without Cloudflare.
  • The URL without Cloudflare can be for instance nocloudflare.chipmixer.com. If there's no DDOS, it's available. During DDOS, the landing page is still available to point towards the .onion site.
  • This way, Cloudflare only knows you visited the clearnet landing page.

Chipmixer's coffers must be flowing with cash (to be clear: like any other successful service) so assuming they got an easy fiat offramp that can take hundreds of dollars per month, they can probably afford to buffer with Akamai or Fastly instead.
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