[ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 84.

jackg

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Quote from: jackg on October 29, 2018, 05:03:03 PM

Quote from: spacedoutqt on October 29, 2018, 04:45:38 PM

Quote from: jackg on October 29, 2018, 07:23:02 AM

Quote from: spacedoutqt on October 29, 2018, 06:33:12 AM

Put roughly $170 worth of coins into the mixer and I forgot my voucher but still have my session. When I go into the session it says it is still waiting for a conformation, anyway I can get my voucher and my coins?

You should see it lists the steps above, if the bitcoin address is the one you deposited into, just go straight to step four.

It won’t let you go to two or three or will say “no chips remaining” or something so you’ll have to goatraight to step four, it won’t move automatically.

Just got home from work and no chips have been added. I cant go to step 2 or 3 because there isnt any coins. This happened last time. I've already sent an email but have heard no response..

Can you go to step four though?

It shouldn’t let you go to step 2 or 3 if you’ve already redeemed your chips as a voucher...

jackg you is this your alt ? the user who started this topic
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47597552
you answered there like if you who started that topic
and he is a scammer . its so surprising to me .

That user quoted my post meaning he was replying to me and not the op?

Learn to keep enquiries on the right thread, things get messy when you don’t.

spacedoutqt

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Quote from: jackg on October 29, 2018, 05:03:03 PM

Quote from: spacedoutqt on October 29, 2018, 04:45:38 PM

Quote from: jackg on October 29, 2018, 07:23:02 AM

Quote from: spacedoutqt on October 29, 2018, 06:33:12 AM

Put roughly $170 worth of coins into the mixer and I forgot my voucher but still have my session. When I go into the session it says it is still waiting for a conformation, anyway I can get my voucher and my coins?

You should see it lists the steps above, if the bitcoin address is the one you deposited into, just go straight to step four.

It won’t let you go to two or three or will say “no chips remaining” or something so you’ll have to goatraight to step four, it won’t move automatically.

Just got home from work and no chips have been added. I cant go to step 2 or 3 because there isnt any coins. This happened last time. I've already sent an email but have heard no response..

Can you go to step four though?

It shouldn’t let you go to step 2 or 3 if you’ve already redeemed your chips as a voucher...

Just updated, it was a mistake on my end, thanks for the great service Jack!

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: spacedoutqt on October 29, 2018, 04:45:38 PM

Quote from: jackg on October 29, 2018, 07:23:02 AM

Quote from: spacedoutqt on October 29, 2018, 06:33:12 AM

Put roughly $170 worth of coins into the mixer and I forgot my voucher but still have my session. When I go into the session it says it is still waiting for a conformation, anyway I can get my voucher and my coins?

You should see it lists the steps above, if the bitcoin address is the one you deposited into, just go straight to step four.

It won’t let you go to two or three or will say “no chips remaining” or something so you’ll have to goatraight to step four, it won’t move automatically.

Just got home from work and no chips have been added. I cant go to step 2 or 3 because there isnt any coins. This happened last time. I've already sent an email but have heard no response..

Can you go to step four though?

It shouldn’t let you go to step 2 or 3 if you’ve already redeemed your chips as a voucher...

spacedoutqt

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Quote from: jackg on October 29, 2018, 07:23:02 AM

Quote from: spacedoutqt on October 29, 2018, 06:33:12 AM

Put roughly $170 worth of coins into the mixer and I forgot my voucher but still have my session. When I go into the session it says it is still waiting for a conformation, anyway I can get my voucher and my coins?

You should see it lists the steps above, if the bitcoin address is the one you deposited into, just go straight to step four.

It won’t let you go to two or three or will say “no chips remaining” or something so you’ll have to goatraight to step four, it won’t move automatically.

Just got home from work and no chips have been added. I cant go to step 2 or 3 because there isnt any coins. This happened last time. I've already sent an email but have heard no response.. EDIT: So sorry ChipMixer team, I had a P instead of a Q... Sorry for wasting time but appreciate the response times!

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: spacedoutqt on October 29, 2018, 06:33:12 AM

Put roughly $170 worth of coins into the mixer and I forgot my voucher but still have my session. When I go into the session it says it is still waiting for a conformation, anyway I can get my voucher and my coins?

You should see it lists the steps above, if the bitcoin address is the one you deposited into, just go straight to step four.

It won’t let you go to two or three or will say “no chips remaining” or something so you’ll have to goatraight to step four, it won’t move automatically.

spacedoutqt

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Put roughly $170 worth of coins into the mixer and I forgot my voucher but still have my session. When I go into the session it says it is still waiting for a conformation, anyway I can get my voucher and my coins?

LoyceV

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Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 10:39:21 PM

How would re-using funds that were supposed to be mixed not decrease privacy?

Chipmixer explains fungibility in the FAQ. In short:

Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 10:33:02 PM

I can also split my coins that intend to mix "as chips" values and i will be still using the "input dirty" funds.

You can make your own chip-sized transactions. And the more people do that, the more difficult it becomes to distinguish between chips.

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Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 10:39:21 PM

How would re-using funds that were supposed to be mixed not decrease privacy?

Because there is no way for anybody to tell if the chip was funded by the same person reusing the service later or not. All chips are funded prior to your deposit so it breaks the link. All any blockchain analysis can tell anyone is that it likely came from Chipmixer. Unless you were to do something silly like send the chips back to the wallet they originated from it is not of any concern.

james3441

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Quote from: TheQuin on October 28, 2018, 10:35:23 PM

Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 10:33:02 PM

So the mixer doesn't protect against this scenario...

Because it is not a scenario that needs protecting against. It is extremely unlikely to occur and if it did it would not decrease your privacy in any way.

How would re-using funds that were supposed to be mixed not decrease privacy? That's like using funds that were never mixed.
These funds would be just like i never used mixer. I know that you wont receive all chips from single address, but even getting a part of it - it's making you receive part of your input "dirty" funds.
And you dont want to use them, do you? You want to get rid of them. And there's chance you can receive these funds in chipmixer.... by using the service often, not one time per month.

Same as if i have funds and i split them now to chip values? Is it mixed? Is it secure? No

Let me give example.

01.01.2019 - you try to mix coins with chipmixer, you receive your keys..
04.01.2019 - chipmixer splits coins into chips, this happens with funds received on 01.01.2019.
12.01.2019 - you try to mix coins again with chipmixer, by such coincidence you receive chips that were partially created from funds that you sent on 01.01.2019 and that were converted to chips on 04.01.2019

This means that part of your money was not mixed and you're most likely not even aware at all and can be making critical mistake.

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Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 10:33:02 PM

So the mixer doesn't protect against this scenario...

Because it is not a scenario that needs protecting against. It is extremely unlikely to occur and if it did it would not decrease your privacy in any way.

james3441

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Quote from: TheQuin on October 28, 2018, 10:22:16 PM

Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 08:32:17 PM

What if i come back after 2 days and mix again?
Can i receive same coins i sent 2 days ago? Because the chips can be created from these coins (sent 2 days ago)

I think this mixer has no protection against such common scenario. Or am i wrong?

It really doesn't matter as all anyone can see is that you used a chip.

So the mixer doesn't protect against this scenario...
I can also split my coins that intend to mix "as chips" values and i will be still using the "input dirty" funds.

It matters if you get chips from the same address that you just sends funds to... few days ago. It's like getting chips from yourself...
Who cares if they were sent to this address 1 day ago? I still receive "chips" belonging to the same funds that i sent 2 days ago.

Risky.

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Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 08:32:17 PM

What if i come back after 2 days and mix again?
Can i receive same coins i sent 2 days ago? Because the chips can be created from these coins (sent 2 days ago)

I think this mixer has no protection against such common scenario. Or am i wrong?

It really doesn't matter as all anyone can see is that you used a chip. If you use it as it is intended you would not send the chips back to the originating wallet so there is no way anyone could know if the chips were funded by you on a previous use of the service.

james3441

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Quote from: TheQuin on October 28, 2018, 07:49:46 PM

Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 07:22:13 PM

Does this mixer prevent you from receiving own coins?

If you withdraw chips they are created before you deposited so it is impossible that they were funded from the same coins.

What if i come back after 2 days and mix again?
Can i receive same coins i sent 2 days ago? Because the chips can be created from these coins (sent 2 days ago)

I think this mixer has no protection against such common scenario. Or am i wrong?

TheQuin

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Quote from: james3441 on October 28, 2018, 07:22:13 PM

Does this mixer prevent you from receiving own coins?

If you withdraw chips they are created before you deposited so it is impossible that they were funded from the same coins.

james3441

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Does this mixer prevent you from receiving own coins?

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Quote from: operator55 on October 28, 2018, 05:03:31 PM

Why dont you purchase commercial certificate for $40 that stays for a year instead of deadling with let's encrypt renewals?

In some setups dealing with commercial certificates can be actually more cumbersome than running a simple letsencrypt script.

More interesting would be to know why they haven't automated the letsencrypt renewal Wink

(says the guy that has to regularly SSH into his own server to manually run letsencrypt scripts before the certs run out)

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Quote from: ChipMixer on October 28, 2018, 04:56:03 PM

Quote from: TryNinja on October 26, 2018, 05:40:24 AM

Looks like the certificate expired yesterday.

Thank you - certificate has been renewed.

Quote from: mocacinno on October 26, 2018, 07:36:51 AM

In Chipmixer's case, i can only assume it's probably just the task of renewing the certificate that hasn't been automated.

Yes, it is manual.

Quote from: xdeath223 on October 26, 2018, 09:26:18 AM

fucking scammers. 2 days ago I sent them 150 dollars - I received 3 keys for 45$, and one key was invalid, 100 dollars were stolen from me, I wrote them to the EMAIL - they do not answer. SCAMMERS! DO NOT WORK WITH THEM TO ANYONE

Please contact us again by e-mail and provide "invalid" key.

Quote from: Thirdspace on October 26, 2018, 08:45:20 PM

in this case probably you received 2 private keys and 1 voucher code

We did not run out of chips lately.

Quote from: Thirdspace on October 27, 2018, 10:20:03 AM

if it's a private key then it should come in pair with its bitcoin address (at step 3 or signed receipt)
can you check that address on block explorer?
if it is indeed unfunded (never funded) then there was a glitch on ChipMixer system
and I'm pretty sure ChipMixer will rectify it either by funding or replacing it, just have to be patient Cool

If it was never funded then signed receipt would be easy proof.

Why dont you purchase commercial certificate for $40 that stays for a year instead of deadling with let's encrypt renewals?

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Quote from: TryNinja on October 26, 2018, 05:40:24 AM

Looks like the certificate expired yesterday.

Thank you - certificate has been renewed.

Quote from: mocacinno on October 26, 2018, 07:36:51 AM

In Chipmixer's case, i can only assume it's probably just the task of renewing the certificate that hasn't been automated.

Yes, it is manual.

Quote from: xdeath223 on October 26, 2018, 09:26:18 AM

fucking scammers. 2 days ago I sent them 150 dollars - I received 3 keys for 45$, and one key was invalid, 100 dollars were stolen from me, I wrote them to the EMAIL - they do not answer. SCAMMERS! DO NOT WORK WITH THEM TO ANYONE

Please contact us again by e-mail and provide "invalid" key.

Quote from: Thirdspace on October 26, 2018, 08:45:20 PM

in this case probably you received 2 private keys and 1 voucher code

We did not run out of chips lately.

Quote from: Thirdspace on October 27, 2018, 10:20:03 AM

if it's a private key then it should come in pair with its bitcoin address (at step 3 or signed receipt)
can you check that address on block explorer?
if it is indeed unfunded (never funded) then there was a glitch on ChipMixer system
and I'm pretty sure ChipMixer will rectify it either by funding or replacing it, just have to be patient Cool

If it was never funded then signed receipt would be easy proof.

operator55

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I wouldnt trust this mixer.
If they have problem with Invalid certificate error for so long, then they're not serious with security and privacy at all.

Sorry but expired certificate is pure sign of amatorship or abandoned ship.

xdeath223

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Quote from: Thirdspace on October 27, 2018, 10:20:03 AM

Quote from: xdeath223 on October 27, 2018, 08:18:20 AM

This voucher is invalid or already redeemed. - I tried earlier, the key begins with the letter K and it does not work as a voucher. also it is not activated in electrum. I wrote to the mail indicated on the site, I am waiting for the third day, there is no answer

if it's a private key then it should come in pair with its bitcoin address (at step 3 or signed receipt)
can you check that address on block explorer?
if it is indeed unfunded (never funded) then there was a glitch on ChipMixer system
and I'm pretty sure ChipMixer will rectify it either by funding or replacing it, just have to be patient Cool

the session was closed before I found the invalid key. copied, closed and left, only then I saw that the expensive key does not work

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