Topic: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented - page 92. (Read 92708 times)

EDIT3: Alpha test thread --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-a-new-bitcoin-mixer-1923170

it was a single man show from the begining. even the reaction time if issues occure proves this.

IMO, chipmixer and campaign manager does not involves more then 2 people. maybe even just one. and if not just one both are strong connected in the same local community.

I am really trying to understand what your end goal is here because I don't believe someone would embark on an activity without and end in mind and I feel its better you come out with that for everyone to see so that any concerns you have can be adequately responded to and attended to as necessary. The link you are trying to make are purely circumstantial that would not even take one to have any special skills to find out if one dedicate your time to it. @DarkStar has said where he is from and I wonder if the @chipmixer would do you the honor of saying where he is resident and answer such as that could mean he is just out of business.

Obvious sig spammer is obvious. Roll Eyes

I have the user on ignore, but it's hard to keep ignoring if y'all are gonna keep quoting. Y'all should just stop addressing him, and if he continues to spam here, I'd recommend reporting him to his campaign manager.

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EDIT3: Alpha test thread --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-a-new-bitcoin-mixer-1923170

it was a single man show from the begining. even the reaction time if issues occure proves this.

IMO, chipmixer and campaign manager does not involves more then 2 people. maybe even just one. and if not just one both are strong connected in the same local community.

I am really trying to understand what your end goal is here because I don't believe someone would embark on an activity without and end in mind and I feel its better you come out with that for everyone to see so that any concerns you have can be adequately responded to and attended to as necessary. The link you are trying to make are purely circumstantial that would not even take one to have any special skills to find out if one dedicate your time to it. @DarkStar has said where he is from and I wonder if the @chipmixer would do you the honor of saying where he is resident and answer such as that could mean he is just out of business.

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Quote from: LoyceV on July 30, 2018, 11:16:21 AM

escrow address was funded (2017-05-26) before the chipmixer address (2017-08-16). makes no sense to me in this order.

EDIT: it's more an indicator that cipmixer created this escrow address and not the campiagn manager. or they are both the same.

It doesn't indicate anything of the sort. Chipmixer may have created their "1Chip" address 2 years ago... or the day it got funded, there is no way to tell from simply looking at transactions on the blockchain.

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EDIT2: if this chipmixer address has an operational need (which it has) then you will create and fund it with the start of the operation or before. after your business is working and you have too less customers your are thinking about to improve it. then comes the escrow address into the game. in this order.

You would not necessarily fund it, if the "operational need" is that it is simply used to create signed messages. You don't need funds in an address to sign messages.

It is fairly obvious looking at the transaction history for this address, that it isn't an "operational" account at all. It has had 2 incoming transactions, which occurred 3 months after the Alpha tests and the service was opened. More likely, someone liked their service and dropped a donation instead of using the internal "donate chip" option.

Without knowing the actual details... I'd say that Chipmixer saw that DarkStar_ had created the "1Chip" address to escrow the sig campaign funds, and liked the idea of a vanity address so went and made one for themselves.

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Quote from: TryNinja on July 29, 2018, 10:10:32 PM

Quote from: TryNinja on July 29, 2018, 10:10:32 PM

escrow address was funded (2017-05-26) before the chipmixer address (2017-08-16). makes no sense to me in this order.

Why exactly does this matter?

I don't think the ChipMixer signing address was supposed to be funded. My guess is someone send their coins to that address by mistake.

They'd have done that after mixing their coins though.
I followed one of the chains and it brought me here: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/18HecYpFRs4s54oiLKnXLpfzFUb1VFQMvt - maybe it was a small chip, they liked the service and wanted to donate?

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escrow address was funded (2017-05-26) before the chipmixer address (2017-08-16). makes no sense to me in this order.

Why exactly does this matter?

I don't think the ChipMixer signing address was supposed to be funded. My guess is someone send their coins to that address by mistake.

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My 1ChipW address was generated using vanitygen when I searched for 1Chip... as I did not have a good GPU at the time. It was the second result that came, and looked decent, so I went with it. The first was something like 1Chipb or something on those lines and the 1Chipb part didn't stand out. Seriously, how is this supposed to indicate alts? Also, you don't need a funded address to sign messages.

You have 1Gyrsur3XcEoGjCarnXvGTVAS3rvjsdVm3, which is also a vanity. Thus, DarkStar_ = ChipMixer = Gyrsur confirmed!111!111one!1111

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Quote from: TryNinja on July 29, 2018, 09:50:34 PM

escrow address was funded (2017-05-26) before the chipmixer address (2017-08-16). makes no sense to me in this order.

Why exactly does this matter?

Looks like you are just creating problems out of your mind for the sake of increasing your post count and getting paid on your signature campaign Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Gyrsur on July 29, 2018, 05:50:53 PM

interesting too. seems not for the first time.

EDIT: campaign manager profiles and addresses.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/darkstar-507936
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/darkstaralt-862062
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DarkStrRagcDjWtsPGxkav4WG3poLXzDS
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3NSvhvYYBMVh1bPyKWjPfyiF3RHAAgsgtw

EDIT2: chipmixer.com address: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

interesting, the campaign payouts goes directly from chipmixer.com address to members and not via the campaign managers address. this could mean the campaign manager holds the priv key to this address. both prefer vanity addresses.

I'm pretty sure this is just you trolling us again (is this your new hobby?). But this address doesn't belong to ChipMixer (obviously). It's an address created by DarkStar to escrow the funds and pay the campaign users.

Quote from: DarkStar_ on May 26, 2017, 07:45:12 PM

~snip~

I will be holding the funds for this campaign, and paying participants. The escrow address will be topped up as the campaign progresses.

Code:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

I, DarkStar_ (u=507936) am escrowing funds for the ChipMixer campaign that I am managing in the address 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.70
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

wsBcBAABCgAGBQJZJ6MjAAoJEIZVviH1IAyt6z4H/ii3xV9/IOQyVOXTdPZzd/al
chpHY7gblLQ/C3BNR9Tx+v5mDvgDFFEJW7AH5AVDfqvz8w5NSFPSRn2Au22u5HyU
Ab30xludXpSx8ADEm7m8/T6GNppGRVL2KKlxQSRZMcE9RwTRKOKLu5lUD6U45XUU
hlO1XgvBv6XHUA6sm56R2Nwnwy0cZnvStH2fgGkadwsyzCmFpqSTCoXQDZJnwgzL
30RxBt8GrKtIEIoLWpi+0EULf2bP/Q4+rklJBoeUARiw0t1xs2dsBJkPNEDGOlEQ
+4uc/jirIAeBGRMfYLOrv/QO1CmLwJ7s/j9BI76/IPIMU2oI6rERhykFmU8Cyu4=
=Z/gC
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

ChipMixer's address is: 1ChipMwvHe5tewb1Uqa9bbZZJDmgPV1TC7 as stated in their website (https://chipmixer.com/about);
While the escrow address is: 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty (notice the blatantly difference).

Good detective work btw.

P.S: Got you out of my ignore list after DarkStar's post. But I'm willing to put you back soon.

escrow address was funded (2017-05-26) before the chipmixer address (2017-08-16). makes no sense to me in this order.

EDIT: it's more an indicator that cipmixer created this escrow address and not the campiagn manager. or they are both the same.

EDIT2: if this chipmixer address has an operational need (which it has) then you will create and fund it with the start of the operation or before. after your business is working and you have too less customers your are thinking about to improve it. then comes the escrow address into the game. in this order.

Quote from: https://chipmixer.com/about

We sign receipts with 1ChipMwvHe5tewb1Uqa9bbZZJDmgPV1TC7 address.
Our BitcoinTalk account is ChipMixer.

Quote from: https://chipmixer.com/faq

What is a signed receipt?

Our goal is to make Bitcoin value independent of its blockchain history. Some governments and corporations wants to invalidate its value by claiming they are connected to something immoral like gambling. Every time you withdraw from ChipMixer, we give you cryptographically signed receipt that proves you have received those funds from us. Since the disconnection of history is proven, there can be no loss of value.

EDIT3: Alpha test thread --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-alpha-testers-for-a-new-bitcoin-mixer-1923170

it was a single man show from the begining. even the reaction time if issues occure proves this.

IMO, chipmixer and campaign manager does not involves more then 2 people. maybe even just one. and if not just one both are strong connected in the same local community.

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Quote from: Gyrsur on July 29, 2018, 05:50:53 PM

interesting too. seems not for the first time.

EDIT: campaign manager profiles and addresses.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/darkstar-507936
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/darkstaralt-862062
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DarkStrRagcDjWtsPGxkav4WG3poLXzDS
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3NSvhvYYBMVh1bPyKWjPfyiF3RHAAgsgtw

EDIT2: chipmixer.com address: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

interesting, the campaign payouts goes directly from chipmixer.com address to members and not via the campaign managers address. this could mean the campaign manager holds the priv key to this address. both prefer vanity addresses.

I'm pretty sure this is just you trolling us again (is this your new hobby?). But this address doesn't belong to ChipMixer (obviously). It's an address created by DarkStar to escrow the funds and pay the campaign users.

Quote from: DarkStar_ on May 26, 2017, 07:45:12 PM

~snip~

I will be holding the funds for this campaign, and paying participants. The escrow address will be topped up as the campaign progresses.

Code:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

I, DarkStar_ (u=507936) am escrowing funds for the ChipMixer campaign that I am managing in the address 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.70
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

wsBcBAABCgAGBQJZJ6MjAAoJEIZVviH1IAyt6z4H/ii3xV9/IOQyVOXTdPZzd/al
chpHY7gblLQ/C3BNR9Tx+v5mDvgDFFEJW7AH5AVDfqvz8w5NSFPSRn2Au22u5HyU
Ab30xludXpSx8ADEm7m8/T6GNppGRVL2KKlxQSRZMcE9RwTRKOKLu5lUD6U45XUU
hlO1XgvBv6XHUA6sm56R2Nwnwy0cZnvStH2fgGkadwsyzCmFpqSTCoXQDZJnwgzL
30RxBt8GrKtIEIoLWpi+0EULf2bP/Q4+rklJBoeUARiw0t1xs2dsBJkPNEDGOlEQ
+4uc/jirIAeBGRMfYLOrv/QO1CmLwJ7s/j9BI76/IPIMU2oI6rERhykFmU8Cyu4=
=Z/gC
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

ChipMixer's address is: 1ChipMwvHe5tewb1Uqa9bbZZJDmgPV1TC7 as stated in their website (https://chipmixer.com/about);
While the escrow address is: 1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty (notice the blatantly difference).

Good detective work btw.

P.S: Got you out of my ignore list after DarkStar's post. But I'm willing to put you back soon.

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Quote from: jackg on July 29, 2018, 05:45:18 PM

Quote from: Gyrsur on July 29, 2018, 04:42:25 PM

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 29, 2018, 04:33:53 PM

Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

Quote from: DarkStar_ on July 29, 2018, 11:25:55 AM

Because I'm Canadian, ChipMixer is Canadian obviously /s

hm, interesting!

EDIT: not much fun in Alberta, Canada. ~~;-)~~ /s

Do we have another confirmed alt of DarkStar_? Grin

interesting too. seems not for the first time.

EDIT: campaign manager profiles and addresses.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/darkstar-507936
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/darkstaralt-862062
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1DarkStrRagcDjWtsPGxkav4WG3poLXzDS
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3NSvhvYYBMVh1bPyKWjPfyiF3RHAAgsgtw

EDIT2: chipmixer.com address: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1ChipWGhJtEWCeSq3cra4HmKhvYqe8Tvty

interesting, the campaign payouts goes directly from chipmixer.com address to members and not via the campaign managers address. this could mean the campaign manager holds the priv key to this address. both prefer vanity addresses.

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Quote from: Gyrsur on July 29, 2018, 04:42:25 PM

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 29, 2018, 04:33:53 PM

Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

Quote from: DarkStar_ on July 29, 2018, 11:25:55 AM

Because I'm Canadian, ChipMixer is Canadian obviously /s

hm, interesting!

EDIT: not much fun in Alberta, Canada. ~~;-)~~ /s

Do we have another confirmed alt of DarkStar_? Grin

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 29, 2018, 04:33:53 PM

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 29, 2018, 04:33:53 PM

EDIT: source of the "Chips" may be gambling

Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

And somehow this makes more sense than anything Gyrsur has said so far.

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 29, 2018, 04:33:53 PM

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Our wallet software: chip based wallet that handles wallet separation and fakes chip creaton

When I first read this, I thought it was related to the software you use on the server. On second reading (and after some sleep), I'm starting to think you're going to publish your own privacy focused wallet. As far as I know, no mixer has done that before.

We are experimenting with a fork of Electrum wallet, eh. They already told us they will not merge any mixer integration - even as a plugin - but this will allow keeping wallet up to date with all new features and extend them with special handling of chips.

Now this sounds interesting.
Have you anything functioning well so far?

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Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

Quote from: DarkStar_ on July 29, 2018, 11:25:55 AM

Because I'm Canadian, ChipMixer is Canadian obviously /s

hm, interesting!

EDIT: not much fun in Alberta, Canada. ~~;-)~~ /s

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Quote from: TryNinja on July 28, 2018, 12:27:50 PM

EDIT: source of the "Chips" may be gambling

Eh? Source of the "Chips" is "Fish and Chips", mate. "Fish and Chip Mixer" was too long and "Fish Mixer" sounds well fishy /s

Google ads require compromising your real life identity, right?

Unless you pay someone to advertise for you with his account.

Aye.

Quote from: jackg on July 29, 2018, 07:15:06 AM

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Our wallet software: chip based wallet that handles wallet separation and fakes chip creaton

When I first read this, I thought it was related to the software you use on the server. On second reading (and after some sleep), I'm starting to think you're going to publish your own privacy focused wallet. As far as I know, no mixer has done that before.

We are experimenting with a fork of Electrum wallet, eh. They already told us they will not merge any mixer integration - even as a plugin - but this will allow keeping wallet up to date with all new features and extend them with special handling of chips.

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Quote from: Husires on July 28, 2018, 03:34:02 AM

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 27, 2018, 05:14:52 PM

Plan if there is a government decision against it?

Which government?

Governments above, if Bitcoin transactions regulated.

so far strong evidence they are Canadians.

What's the evidence?

I think the site was registered in Panama (if that's what pa stands for on whois) which means they are most likely North American (USA/Canada).

Because I'm Canadian, ChipMixer is Canadian obviously /s

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Quote from: Husires on July 28, 2018, 03:34:02 AM

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 27, 2018, 05:14:52 PM

Plan if there is a government decision against it?

Which government?

Governments above, if Bitcoin transactions regulated.

so far strong evidence they are Canadians.

What's the evidence?

I think the site was registered in Panama (if that's what pa stands for on whois) which means they are most likely North American (USA/Canada).

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Quote from: Husires on July 28, 2018, 03:34:02 AM

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 27, 2018, 05:14:52 PM

Plan if there is a government decision against it?

Which government?

Governments above, if Bitcoin transactions regulated.

so far strong evidence they are Canadians.

EDIT: source of the "Chips" may be gambling. in the past of bitcointalk.org some Canadian users operated large Bitcoin gambling sites. guess of the local gambling friendly laws.

EDIT2: at least they are gambling oriented if you look in the FAQ's "Betting". that hardens the evidence of Canadians besides the analysis which I don't want to disclose.

EDIT3: evidence of US citizens is not an option. --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_the_United_States#Legal_issues

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Google ads require compromising your real life identity, right?

Unless you pay someone to advertise for you with his account.

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 27, 2018, 05:14:52 PM

When I first read this, I thought it was related to the software you use on the server. On second reading (and after some sleep), I'm starting to think you're going to publish your own privacy focused wallet. As far as I know, no mixer has done that before.

My thoughts exactly.

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Reddit / Google ads: we are looking for a person to handle this

Google ads require compromising your real life identity, right?

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Our wallet software: chip based wallet that handles wallet separation and fakes chip creaton

When I first read this, I thought it was related to the software you use on the server. On second reading (and after some sleep), I'm starting to think you're going to publish your own privacy focused wallet. As far as I know, no mixer has done that before.

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Thanks for answering my questions, this enhances trust

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 27, 2018, 05:14:52 PM

chips sources?

Our funds and users funds. Withdraw before deposit, chip sizes and mixer receipts ensures that any chip you withdraw from ChipMixer have no link with deposited funds.

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 27, 2018, 05:14:52 PM

Plan if there is a government decision against it?

Which government?

Governments above, if Bitcoin transactions regulated.

Quote from: ChipMixer on July 27, 2018, 05:14:52 PM

LN deposits and LN vouchers: "chips" that do not leave LN but are fungible outside of LN

Very good I was wondering about the future of mixing services if the lightning network succeeded?

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Does chipmixer planning to share some information publicly?

We share full information how mixer works, why it works and how it ensures fungibility.

How many coins have been mixed?

We do not disclose this information.

chips sources?

Our funds and users funds. Withdraw before deposit, chip sizes and mixer receipts ensures that any chip you withdraw from ChipMixer have no link with deposited funds.

Plan if there is a government decision against it?

Which government?

How long will keep advertising here?

We do not plan to stop.