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Topic: [ANN] CRAVE 1st POS Masternodes | Dark Assets | I2P | Market =Embrace The Dark= - page 278. (Read 826735 times)

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you guys are delusional. The pumpers have left the building and are planning their next vacation and/or car purchase.

Explain to me why a pumper would spend so many BTCs pumping the price to 800k and then ...dumping down to ...68k, in order to crush the price instead of maximizing BTC profit.

It's impossible for the pumper to have made any money on this.

The only profit comes from attacking the coin's price and confidence, leveling it at much lower levels, where re-purchasing the same quantity or higher quantity of coins can take place @ lower cost.

This scheme can only work if people dump at 100-200-300k etc, otherwise the pumper/dumper lost his BTCs to the casual investors.



Pumpers buy so that the price goes up. N00bs and general traders then think something is up and follow the buy trend like dumb blindfolded sheep. The pumpers then do their calculations and wait until the bases are loaded with other traders' buy orders and then wham dump their holdings when the buy orders are large enough to cover their holdings. This was a classic example and many people lost a lot of money with crave.

Dump down to 68k when you know you are killing it / overselling it and it rebounded to 350k a while thereafter? No. There is nothing classic here.

Besides no one said they were smart! We are talking about some of the biggest clowns into CRYPTO here. It is classic, for them!

So the pumper / dumper were also ...stupid... but they made money from the people, or... they lost money (because they are stupid) - whatever... The narrative doesn't add up.

What I see here is simple: There was nothing bad to say against the coin, no actual FUD to throw at it, so someone pumped & dumped at a cost (for him), to throw the "p&d" accusation at it. "Oh people are losing money", "it's a pump & dump like the rest" etc etc.

Like if some "investors" come along and take ANY coin (including bitcoin, litecoin etc) and pump it & dump it, it's somehow the coin's fault.

Then, once the label sticks that it was "just a P&D", cheap accumulation can take place.

Logic does not apply to LongAndShort at this moment. Once I get done catching up I will be almost completely done with a fairly thorough psych eval/profile of him.
I will need to ask him only a few questions at the end (if he is willing to answer) because his posts and reactions here have answered the vast majority so far.
I advise anyone to show compassion towards him because it is obvious he can not help/control some of his emotions currently.
I am unable to determine currently if this is a permanent affliction or if it is short term until I get answers to some final questions that he may or may not answer.
I do not think it is something he can help on his own so he will need group support currently whether it is a short or long term issue.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1160
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050
In the bottom of my wallet what does it mean ....5 active connection to crave network?


what is "clear net" in my wallet?

where is blur stored? Can I see my Blur in wallet?

arent you one of the trolls ?
anyway , to answer your questions.

1. that is the number of peers  wallet nodes your connected to
2. tor uses clearnet ... if you do not what that is google it
3. blur is not implemented yet
Just to clarify on #2.  Your wallet will say clearnet if you are connected to the normal internet.  If you have configured/started your wallet using only the tor network correctly, then you will see an onion icon instead.

But not a garlic icon if you are connected to i2p because that does not work yet right?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050
In the bottom of my wallet what does it mean ....5 active connection to crave network?


what is "clear net" in my wallet?

where is blur stored? Can I see my Blur in wallet?

arent you one of the trolls ?
He's just asking legitimate questions..
Clearnet, I have no clue what it means.
Blur is stored on the crave blockchain and is owned by crave addresses. You can use blur and other assets with darkpool.

Hidden service is a website that uses a .onion address and a clearnet site uses the regular internet. You must be on TOR to access the onion network, whereas clearnet sites can be accessed from any browser. Darknet is something like an i2p network where its is mostly closed off to clearnet sites cept for some volunteer nodes with bridges. But the term darknet is also loosely used for the tor net too.
sr. member
Activity: 383
Merit: 250
secp256k1 has changed something in their repo, it does not work with the latest version anymore.

I've got a syncing issue .. it syncs up until block 32712 and sits forever there then.. anyone else having the same ?

i didnt compile crave after this update.

here is a precompiled craved:

wget http://104.207.135.209/craved

if you want i can send you the old secp256k1 that i have.

I'm stuck here too at block 32712. Is there a document explaining how to fix this? thanks
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
In the bottom of my wallet what does it mean ....5 active connection to crave network?


what is "clear net" in my wallet?

where is blur stored? Can I see my Blur in wallet?

arent you one of the trolls ?
anyway , to answer your questions.

1. that is the number of peers  wallet nodes your connected to
2. tor uses clearnet ... if you do not what that is google it
3. blur is not implemented yet
Just to clarify on #2.  Your wallet will say clearnet if you are connected to the normal internet.  If you have configured/started your wallet using only the tor network correctly, then you will see an onion icon instead.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1000

Just go to https://beta.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CRAVE and click the "Distribution". It will list balances of the top users.


What does this mean? Why does he have so many coins?

Is this bad?

Nope, but shadowtrash distribution is really very bad

https://beta.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-SDC

someone on bittrex with 100k SDC. If SDC ever gets pumped to CRAVE or DASH highs, that guy will just dump and walk away with a nice chunk of change.
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
In the bottom of my wallet what does it mean ....5 active connection to crave network?


what is "clear net" in my wallet?

where is blur stored? Can I see my Blur in wallet?

arent you one of the trolls ?
He's just asking legitimate questions..
Clearnet, I have no clue what it means.
Blur is stored on the crave blockchain and is owned by crave addresses. You can use blur and other assets with darkpool.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
you guys are delusional. The pumpers have left the building and are planning their next vacation and/or car purchase.

Explain to me why a pumper would spend so many BTCs pumping the price to 800k and then ...dumping down to ...68k, in order to crush the price instead of maximizing BTC profit.

It's impossible for the pumper to have made any money on this.

The only profit comes from attacking the coin's price and confidence, leveling it at much lower levels, where re-purchasing the same quantity or higher quantity of coins can take place @ lower cost.

This scheme can only work if people dump at 100-200-300k etc, otherwise the pumper/dumper lost his BTCs to the casual investors.



Pumpers buy so that the price goes up. N00bs and general traders then think something is up and follow the buy trend like dumb blindfolded sheep. The pumpers then do their calculations and wait until the bases are loaded with other traders' buy orders and then wham dump their holdings when the buy orders are large enough to cover their holdings. This was a classic example and many people lost a lot of money with crave.

Dump down to 68k when you know you are killing it / overselling it and it rebounded to 350k a while thereafter? No. There is nothing classic here.

Besides no one said they were smart! We are talking about some of the biggest clowns into CRYPTO here. It is classic, for them!

Then start a thread about the potential same pump group that has been in the midst SDC as well maybe?
You have already admitted, at the least, being an accessory to what happened here.
Why has this suddenly become a discussion about a pump group that has or has not been here?
You seem to always be off point. Need a V8? This really is becoming ocd on your part, to the extent of being just a small fraction of many real issues.

Stop spamming this thread please. Create your own thread if you need an avenue to vent some issues you are dealing with. Your post count alone on this thread would have well onto the first page.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
In the bottom of my wallet what does it mean ....5 active connection to crave network?


what is "clear net" in my wallet?

where is blur stored? Can I see my Blur in wallet?
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 1
No. This is a graph of the users who have balances at bittrex.

Nope, when you send crave to bittrex it is transferred into a single cold wallet so no way to know what belong to who unless you have access to their database.


THAT EVEN EXPLAINS IT BETTER - THE WHALES HAVE NOT TAKEN THEIR ILL-GOTTEN GAINS OFF THE EXCHANGES YET, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PUMP.

Nope, it means lots of crave are sent to bittrex in order to sell/dump.





NOPE!

this graph is connected to every bittrex user wallet in the database, and updated in real time.

no cold wallets, only one wallet that have users ID's labeled as addresses (that what you see on deposit page) this address have ur user ID.

Really? nice I didn't know that.


Just go to https://beta.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CRAVE and click the "Distribution". It will list balances of the top users.


What does this mean? Why does he have so many coins?

Is this bad?

It depends. If you are a trader, then it is good. It means that the whale is still around and he will likely to pump the price again.
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1028
#mitandopelomundo

Just go to https://beta.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CRAVE and click the "Distribution". It will list balances of the top users.


What does this mean? Why does he have so many coins?

Is this bad?

Nope, but shadowtrash distribution is really very bad

https://beta.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-SDC
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1028
#mitandopelomundo
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1000
wow someone is balling with 30k CRAVE on bittrex.

enough for 3 markets.

well done
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1028
#mitandopelomundo
Is that really Emillion man? LMAo for real?

LOL
the best person to answer is your mom.
And don't forget to tell to her that I left the money under the radio
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
No. This is a graph of the users who have balances at bittrex.

Nope, when you send crave to bittrex it is transferred into a single cold wallet so no way to know what belong to who unless you have access to their database.


THAT EVEN EXPLAINS IT BETTER - THE WHALES HAVE NOT TAKEN THEIR ILL-GOTTEN GAINS OFF THE EXCHANGES YET, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PUMP.

Nope, it means lots of crave are sent to bittrex in order to sell/dump.





NOPE!

this graph is connected to every bittrex user wallet in the database, and updated in real time.

no cold wallets, only one wallet that have users ID's labeled as addresses (that what you see on deposit page) this address have ur user ID.

Really? nice I didn't know that.


Just go to https://beta.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CRAVE and click the "Distribution". It will list balances of the top users.


What does this mean? Why does he have so many coins?

Is this bad?
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 1
No. This is a graph of the users who have balances at bittrex.

Nope, when you send crave to bittrex it is transferred into a single cold wallet so no way to know what belong to who unless you have access to their database.


THAT EVEN EXPLAINS IT BETTER - THE WHALES HAVE NOT TAKEN THEIR ILL-GOTTEN GAINS OFF THE EXCHANGES YET, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PUMP.

Nope, it means lots of crave are sent to bittrex in order to sell/dump.





NOPE!

this graph is connected to every bittrex user wallet in the database, and updated in real time.

no cold wallets, only one wallet that have users ID's labeled as addresses (that what you see on deposit page) this address have ur user ID.

Really? nice I didn't know that.


Just go to https://beta.bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-CRAVE and click the "Distribution". It will list balances of the top users.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
you guys are delusional. The pumpers have left the building and are planning their next vacation and/or car purchase.

Explain to me why a pumper would spend so many BTCs pumping the price to 800k and then ...dumping down to ...68k, in order to crush the price instead of maximizing BTC profit.

It's impossible for the pumper to have made any money on this.

The only profit comes from attacking the coin's price and confidence, leveling it at much lower levels, where re-purchasing the same quantity or higher quantity of coins can take place @ lower cost.

This scheme can only work if people dump at 100-200-300k etc, otherwise the pumper/dumper lost his BTCs to the casual investors.



pumpr probably made so much by selling above 500k he doeesnt care what price he sells it. you all saw how it was dumped on the other coins bob pumped. its the same style. once he has made enough he likes to let people know he is out. see the charts for the coins he has pumped.

If he was selling above 500k, why wasn't the price crashing and instead got to 800k / pump-style? The argument doesn't make sense.

Your logic will never satisfy a probably troll, probably.
hero member
Activity: 1098
Merit: 500
I hope the dev at least attempts to answer this...although I am still thankful he answered the first questions I had.
I already answered this a couple of pages back.
Last thing i want to do is waste your time but you are kidding right?

You said it was easy and can be done but its not possible with your client and i gave you the reasons why yet somehow magically crave has the ability to internally resolve the equivalent of the i2p networks' "IP addresses", and send them to a separately-configurable proxy service. And has the ability to then relay such "IP addresses" over the P2P network.
Can you point me to the code that proves this please.

in case you didnt know the i2p "ip addresses" are this long



You may not like me and thats understandable but this is a legitimate conversation in a legitimate thread on topic and you shrugging it off is extremely interesting.
Humor me for five minutes and demonstrate how you think its possible to completely achieve an i2p ip resolution and relay without the routing code in crave...


+100 I was wondering this myself.

I can answer this with out your Dev. No its not possible to do this through their client currently so this dev should eat his hat. I believe this should also call in to question his legitimacy

....

this thing is even more Interesting:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-full-truth-behind-shadowcashcoin-trolls-and-their-attacks-on-other-coins-818939

hahahahah that thread was made by angry investors who invested in scams...Mainly started as a smear campaign by emilioman one of your big investors.. Go look at his track record its all scams from whitecoin to librex to liberty to stealth all who had devs abandon their project. Emilioman was most mad about stealth... which wasnt fudded by shadow, some of SDCs members have a heavy understanding of crypto, like long andshort. [hate him or love him hes a smart dude] they simply pointed out flaws and believe me stealth had some MAJOR FLAWS and red signals. One was their github which suspiciously is the same issue as the crave github. Now im no longer in SDC i sold back at first deepdotweb pump months ago. Just stating some facts of that whole campaign but mainly EMILIOMAN... he has a vendetta after people who present facts, when he just plugs his ears and screams FUCK SDC..MY COIN TO THE MOON  

 

Is that really Emillion man? LMAo for real?
sr. member
Activity: 292
Merit: 250
tm2013 has helped me burn some crave for blur..if anyone wants a piece of that pie its best to do it sooner than later and tm2013 does it for a VERY cheap fee of 0.1 crave!
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