Topic: [ANN] CureCoin 2.0 is live - Mandatory Update is available now - DEC 2018 - page 102. (Read 696267 times)

Has anyone else been getting flooded with core 16 projects over the last few days?  My 290X TRI-X cards appear to have a very difficult time running them.  They crash repeatedly while on core 16 projects so my machines are down more than they are up again.  I had not heard of core 16 before so when I looked it appears they were supposed to be done about this time last year.  So I'm wondering why I'm suddenly getting them.

Update:  According to the F@H forum, core 16 is all that is being distributed right now.

Update 2:  It appears I'm still getting some core 17's as well so maybe they are getting their distribution servers worked out.

Try folding with NaCL, a chrome app. The workunits are very small and take way less time.

I folded one work unit, took me 3 days. Maybe this is not for me haha.

Same username possible ; actually makes it easier to keep track of your overall contribution.
Important: make sure to also apply the exactly identical passkey in all clients to get higher bonus in points.

Hello

can I fold of several machines with one username or do I need to have a separate username for each machine?

Just my 2 cents...  I do think a coin that follows a very small inflationary model is a good idea but only to the extent that it is slightly higher than what is needed to offset coins that will get lost via people losing interest, losing their hard drive with no backups, or forgetting their pass phrase etc.  I have no idea how to estimate what the natural deflation rate is but I wouldn't want to see growth being much higher than the best guess.  

My biggest concern as I've mentioned before is coin utilization.  If we don't find ways to actually use CureCoin, the coin is going to die no matter what its features.  People need to be able to use it and right now there is nothing to use it for.  That is the number one problem in my view.  Of course we can use it for speculation but that can be done with a thousand other coins as well.  We need real uses for CureCoin.

Maybe when CC 2.0 is released the devs can approach Moolah and others to see if they have an interest in working with the coin.  It would seem to fit in well with their mindset and could possibly bring in the Dogecoin community, but I don't think they would be interested under the current structure.  CC 2.0 should alleviate many concerns that would come up.  I would love to find a way to introduce CureCoin to the Dogecoin crowd.  Most members of the Dogecoin community can't mine anymore since the implementation of AuxPoW due to the soaring difficultly.  It would be nice to get a few over here and create a cross community if possible.  If we could find a way to tap into the DOGE community I think CureCoin's demand would skyrocket.

It appears I have veered off topic a bit from the original quote so I guess I put in 4 cents instead of my 2 cents.  

Team CureCoin reaches #6 in the F@H standings!  Congrats again everyone!

Hey Curecoin, let's work together?

Yeah, this part isn't actually set in stone, so if other people have input on this, don't be shy! Had a discussion with Cygnus and Cujo about this last night.

I'm thinking the best path might be a compromise between people wanting a set-limit system and an actual currency's behavior. Bitcoin and almost every other cryptocurrency has some finite limit to it's mintage, attractive to investors as it is scarce, similar to a commodity. On the other side, fiat currencies are designed in such a way that their mintage is based on a lot of factors including population, and tend to become less valuable over time, per unit. As a result, a compromise would be a very long mintage schedule with an extremely gradual decline, so the coin is still generated at a predictable rate, but is still limited in supply in a given period of time.

It's a new currency But your old curecoins will be exchanged for new curecoins at a 1:1 ratio so you won't lose your investment. Keep folding

Source: http://curecoinfolding.com/progress-updates-p2p-networking/

Thank you for your answers. I have some follow up questions regarding this point.

Why put a limit on the amount of coin to be minted using the certificate mining? I understand it will be stretch over a very long time but why have the limit in the first place? Why not  make it rate-limited somehow without a limited final quantity? Having it finite means that there will be a point in time in the future that would deem certificate mining unprofitable and people, being financially incentivized, will move from it to more profitable venues. Be it 10 days from now or 10 million years from now, that point in time will come and people will move away. Could you please elaborate more on the decisions to set a limit on coin mined with certificate mining and the thought process behind them ?

Thank you

Is 2.0 a whole new coin or an upgrade to the existing?
What happens to the old coin and CureCoins?

Hey Indigo, good questions!

1.) Yup, full support for multisig addresses/transactions will be available. The process behind it will likely have to change due to the signature scheme we are working on, so there may be multisig 'accounts,' in which the blockchain has a written record of all the addresses involved in a multisig account, and can apply appropriate verification rules to make it behave similar to multisig. This will also allow you to sign on additional parties to the account.

2.) Curecoin will have a new API, since so much under the hood is changing. While we don't currently have a RPC reference of any sort, we're rebuilding the structure of interfacing with the daemon from scratch, so while some RPC calls will be very similar in function, there will be far more complicated ones to account for additional features.

3.) The blockchain should be secure enough using only a certificate system, given that certain rate-limiting rules are integrated into every node. However, I'm not opposed to putting some kind of Proof of Stake or Proof of Capacity into the currency. If you would like to look at a current example of Proof-Of-Capacity, check out Burstcoin.

4.) There will be a limited amount of coins that can be minted using certificate mining (however this will be stretched out over a very long period of time, and will be practical for encouraging computational research far into the future). If we implement a Proof-Of-Stake model, then we will see some form of interest, which will be rate-limited, but not limited to an actual final quantity. Hopefully that makes sense, let me know if you'd like me to clarify that one.

5.) Unfortunately the design of a certificate system would require some authority to issue the certificates. For a very specific set of mathematical research, the solutions could be proven in the blockchain, however we don't plan to implement that feature, unless we can find a robust way to do so. Our logic essentially follows that *most* ground-breaking research requires fairly significant human intervention, from creating the workunits to be crunched for protein folding to developing climate predictions based on variables that scientists want to manipulate to best study their subject area. The few exceptions to such research are of course ones like Primecoin or Riecoin where the network looks for numbers that fit a given pattern that can be verified by the network. In order to do so, the Curecoin network would need a means of validating the work submitted, which, given the scope of potential research offered by deterministic work generation, doesn't seem terribly practical. That being said, if an extremely interesting research project which could behave in a decentralized manner was developed, the validation of that project could be added in a similar manner as adding an additional university to the network--and would require a client update.

Hi

I am working on a couple of projects that I would like to integrate Curecoin in as I believe in what it stands for. Having said that, I'm hesitant to work on incorporating it at the time being when knowing there is a complete rewriting of the source code coming in Curecoin 2.0 . The projects i'm implementing rely heavily on the RPC API calls and on multisig transactions.

I have the following questions:

1- will Curecoin 2.0 support multisig addresses and transactions ?

2- will Curecoin 2.0 support RPC calls like the current client does? Will it provide the current API calls and add new ones or should I wait until the client is released and work with a complete new set of API calls? I don't want to waste time and energy by implementing applications relying on an API that will be outdated and deprecated on the next release.

3- Aside from the folding/research computations for the proof of work, will curecoin 2.0 have another system to maintain the security of the network? Possibly Proof of Stake like Peercoin (a coin I believe in the ideals behind it like I do in Curecoin) http://peercoin.net/minting  ? or Proof Of Resources like which is a new concept that is quite interesting to be used by Safecoin, a coin still in development http://www.safecoin.io/ ? I read in the article http://curecoinfolding.com/progress-updates-p2p-networking/ that a Proof of Capacity is being considered but i couldn't find more information on the topic of Proof of Capacity. Could you please elaborate on what other means of securing the network aside from doing the research computations will be?

4- will there be a set limit on the amount of curecoins generated like in the case of Bitcoin or will it have an inflationary and deflationary aspects that will balance each other like in the case of Peercoin without a preset cap on curecoins?

5- I come to understand that for research to be added, the researchers will have to setup a centralized certificate issuing entity for validation. How could research that is completely decentralized be included in Curecoin with the proposed certificate model? An example of decentralized research computations that doesn't require a central authority is the search for prime numbers like in the case of Primecoin http://primecoin.io/ . How would such research be included in the curecoin model without a central authority issuing certificates? I could see great potential in merging primecoin with the Curecoin 2.0. You would probably get all the supporters of Primecoin migrate to Curecoin 2.0 if the same kind of computation could be used a form of research computation used for mining Curecoin 2.0.

Looking forward to hearing back from you

I'd like to say it'll be fully released by February (full crossplatform GUI, crossplatform daemon, exchanges, cc1.0<->2.0 trade working, etc.), and we'll have public (no value) betas before that, but you know how software development goes. I also don't know how much time it'll take to get universities on-board and signing certificates, but if the community is fine with it, we could be the issuing authority until the universities are ready to switch over. I'm not a huge fan of that idea, but it's on the table.

Any kind of ETA for CC 2.0?

Moving right along!

Looking forward to it!

Congrats on position #7 in the F@H standing everyone!  In about 5 days and we will have the #6 spot as well!  

And I though he was just using you..