Topic: [ANN] CureCoin 2.0 is live - Mandatory Update is available now - DEC 2018 - page 165. (Read 696254 times)

Quote from: Croak on May 18, 2014, 08:25:05 PM

At least with when the term "money" or "get paid" is used you know it has value. Maybe talking about it in terms of rewards is better I'm not sure, but I would think unless there's a legal reason preventing us from talking about Curecoins like they are money then calling it money would be more effective.

Simple (ish): have a live value ticker combined with a daily refresh WU/CURE ticker on curecoin.net.
a quick way to see what just one's CPU can fold on 'light' without affecting performance.

Something like...

Code:

At today's rates, your computer could be making
X Ghz = X PPD = 1 CURE = X BTC = X USD$ per day

It's just a bunch of maths with values scraped from stanford and exchanges, but it would answer manymany forum questions and help noobs snap decide if they're in or not. Maybe some lovely browser querying js can dynamically get a visitor's rated CPU speed for it. It'd be even nicer if the PPD value could be tweaked by more savvy users with their GPUs involved who want to use it as a calculator.

This is a good idea (the ticker). I think, though, that it should also show the average for, say 7d and 30d or so.

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Quote from: mafia on May 18, 2014, 08:15:51 PM

I have 6 million points and 2 curecoins

is that correct?

Maybe. If you put a massive amount of power on folding in the last day or so, it's quite possible that all that got recorded for the daily snapshot was enough points to earn you 2 coins. You'll make up the difference in the next payout, since it does a delta between "today" and "yesterday" to figure out your daily points.

That's all assuming that you're folding for the right team (224497) with all your rigs/bots, and that the username you used on CryptoBullion matches what you use to fold.

i'm only mining on my PC. it looks like i have earnt 6 million in total

username Mafia

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Quote from: Croak on May 19, 2014, 04:16:00 PM

At least with when the term "money" or "get paid" is used you know it has value. Maybe talking about it in terms of rewards is better I'm not sure, but I would think unless there's a legal reason preventing us from talking about Curecoins like they are money then calling it money would be more effective.

Simple (ish): have a live value ticker combined with a daily refresh WU/CURE ticker on curecoin.net.
a quick way to see what just one's CPU can fold on 'light' without affecting performance.

Something like...

Code:

At today's rates, your computer could be making
X Ghz = X PPD = 1 CURE = X BTC = X USD$ per day

It's just a bunch of maths with values scraped from stanford and exchanges, but it would answer manymany forum questions and help noobs snap decide if they're in or not. Maybe some lovely browser querying js can dynamically get a visitor's rated CPU speed for it. It'd be even nicer if the PPD value could be tweaked by more savvy users with their GPUs involved who want to use it as a calculator.

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Yeah, if the investors do dump (which I doubt), it just makes for a more democratic coin distribution. Which at least partially solves the problem some of the whingers had about not getting a chance to buy at the IPO price themselves.

What people don't realize is bitcoin was three times the price when they bought so a return of say 15x their money now is actually only 5x their money not counting the huge risk they went through.

I hope they dump - if it gets down to IPO price I'd probably put thousands of $ into it.

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Yeah, if the investors do dump (which I doubt), it just makes for a more democratic coin distribution. Which at least partially solves the problem some of the whingers had about not getting a chance to buy at the IPO price themselves.

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Quote from: sumgye on May 19, 2014, 03:54:00 PM

Quote from: sartech on May 19, 2014, 03:31:34 PM

Quote from: TheUniporn on May 19, 2014, 03:14:04 PM

Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

Quote from: cameronpalte on May 19, 2014, 12:31:13 PM

Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 11:51:44 AM

Quote from: sartech on May 19, 2014, 03:31:34 PM

just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

The reason any coin has value is because people believe it does. At least with this coin we can definitively say real valuable work was done in order to earn a coin and that work will in fact have a value when looked at from a macro point-of-view.

A big factor would also be for investing as a donation. Each curecoin represents a certain amount of research done which at this point 1 curecoin represents 30,000 folding @ home points. Therefore, if you want to help cure cancer but don't want to have a rig by buying say 3000 curecoin you are funding 100 million F@H points which means you are funding that much research being done. This was another angle I was thinking of it being marketed as.

I like the idea.

I love the idea

Could be sold as digital or physical gift cards Wink

Yes! These are the best angles to promote Curecoin.

+1
great ideea to promote and keep ''miners'' to F@H

I like the idea, but all things being average - it's more like 1 produced CureCoin represents 24,000 curecoin points - because Miners get 1/5th of the coins that are produced each day (or, more accurately, 4x the expected mined coins per day (7844) is divided among folders daily.)

This still doesn't account for the the investor coins that, while their owners all seem to be honorable and reasonable people and I respect the need for their existence, do represent the overwhelming majority of coins available for circulation, and will actually constitute > 50% of coins for about 2 months.

Don't get me wrong, it's a brilliant marketing strategy, and I am 110% for CureCoin and desperately want it to succeed. I'm just concerned that such a marketing tactic could backfire if it was employed in the short term, while there's still such a small portion of available coins that were obtained by folding.

If the investors dump, the value plummets. You can then buy in cheap, and feel confident that you are going to make a return on your investment. I don't see the real problem there.

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Quote from: TheUniporn on May 19, 2014, 03:14:04 PM

Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

Quote from: cameronpalte on May 19, 2014, 12:31:13 PM

Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 11:51:44 AM

Quote from: Stedsm on May 19, 2014, 01:44:13 PM

just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

The reason any coin has value is because people believe it does. At least with this coin we can definitively say real valuable work was done in order to earn a coin and that work will in fact have a value when looked at from a macro point-of-view.

A big factor would also be for investing as a donation. Each curecoin represents a certain amount of research done which at this point 1 curecoin represents 30,000 folding @ home points. Therefore, if you want to help cure cancer but don't want to have a rig by buying say 3000 curecoin you are funding 100 million F@H points which means you are funding that much research being done. This was another angle I was thinking of it being marketed as.

I like the idea.

I love the idea

Could be sold as digital or physical gift cards Wink

Yes! These are the best angles to promote Curecoin.

+1
great ideea to promote and keep ''miners'' to F@H

I like the idea, but all things being average - it's more like 1 produced CureCoin represents 24,000 curecoin points - because Miners get 1/5th of the coins that are produced each day (or, more accurately, 4x the expected mined coins per day (7844) is dispersed and divided among folders daily.)

This still doesn't account for the the investor coins that, while their owners all seem to be honorable and reasonable people and I respect the need for their existence, do represent the overwhelming majority of coins available for circulation, and will actually constitute > 50% of coins for about 2 months.

Don't get me wrong, it's a brilliant marketing strategy, and I am 110% for CureCoin and desperately want it to succeed. I'm just concerned that such a marketing tactic could backfire if it was employed in the short term, while there's still such a small portion of available coins that were obtained by folding.

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Quote from: TheUniporn on May 19, 2014, 03:14:04 PM

just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

Why does Doge,BBQ,CGA,PPC,MIN or any crypto have value....

The same reason any commodity have value, it's because man says it has value and that holds true for gold, silver, diamonds, oil and fiat currency as well as cryptocurrencies. Usually it is tied to whatever the commodity is used for, or the fact that it is useful to man in some way. I will grant you, many cryptocurrencies have little value other than a speculative value riding on Bitcoin's coattails.

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Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

Quote from: cameronpalte on May 19, 2014, 12:31:13 PM

Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 11:51:44 AM

Quote from: cameronpalte on May 19, 2014, 03:06:55 PM

just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

The reason any coin has value is because people believe it does. At least with this coin we can definitively say real valuable work was done in order to earn a coin and that work will in fact have a value when looked at from a macro point-of-view.

A big factor would also be for investing as a donation. Each curecoin represents a certain amount of research done which at this point 1 curecoin represents 30,000 folding @ home points. Therefore, if you want to help cure cancer but don't want to have a rig by buying say 3000 curecoin you are funding 100 million F@H points which means you are funding that much research being done. This was another angle I was thinking of it being marketed as.

I like the idea.

I love the idea

Could be sold as digital or physical gift cards Wink

Yes! These are the best angles to promote Curecoin.

+1
great ideea to promote and keep ''miners'' to F@H

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Quote from: Stedsm on May 19, 2014, 01:44:13 PM

just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

Why does Doge,BBQ,CGA,PPC,MIN or any crypto have value....

Those coins are all speculation - this is the first coin with an actual value.

I think you mean that this is the first coin with an actual purpose. The value hasn't been locked down yet, and giving a coin a purpose doesn't automatically give it value. The community has to push for that part.

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Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

Quote from: cameronpalte on May 19, 2014, 12:31:13 PM

Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 11:51:44 AM

Quote from: Stedsm on May 19, 2014, 01:44:13 PM

just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

The reason any coin has value is because people believe it does. At least with this coin we can definitively say real valuable work was done in order to earn a coin and that work will in fact have a value when looked at from a macro point-of-view.

A big factor would also be for investing as a donation. Each curecoin represents a certain amount of research done which at this point 1 curecoin represents 30,000 folding @ home points. Therefore, if you want to help cure cancer but don't want to have a rig by buying say 3000 curecoin you are funding 100 million F@H points which means you are funding that much research being done. This was another angle I was thinking of it being marketed as.

I like the idea.

I love the idea

Could be sold as digital or physical gift cards Wink

Yes! These are the best angles to promote Curecoin.

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just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

Why does Doge,BBQ,CGA,PPC,MIN or any crypto have value....

Those coins are all speculation - this is the first coin with an actual value.

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Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

Why does Doge,BBQ,CGA,PPC,MIN or any crypto have value....

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Quote from: cameronpalte on May 19, 2014, 12:31:13 PM

Quote from: ChasingTheDream on May 19, 2014, 11:51:44 AM

Quote from: LasersHurt on May 19, 2014, 01:21:06 PM

just don't know why ,this coin is so valuable ,can not buy for it

The reason any coin has value is because people believe it does. At least with this coin we can definitively say real valuable work was done in order to earn a coin and that work will in fact have a value when looked at from a macro point-of-view.

A big factor would also be for investing as a donation. Each curecoin represents a certain amount of research done which at this point 1 curecoin represents 30,000 folding @ home points. Therefore, if you want to help cure cancer but don't want to have a rig by buying say 3000 curecoin you are funding 100 million F@H points which means you are funding that much research being done. This was another angle I was thinking of it being marketed as.

I like the idea.

I love the idea

Could be sold as digital or physical gift cards Wink

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Quote from: matt608 on May 19, 2014, 01:12:22 PM

Quote from: LasersHurt on May 19, 2014, 01:21:06 PM

Yeah I get where you're coming from, but 'rewards' can often be worthless, e.g. I get texted a to collect "rewards" for topping up my phone but I don't even bother because they're crappy worthless rewards. At least with when the term "money" or "get paid" is used you know it has value. Maybe talking about it in terms of rewards is better I'm not sure, but I would think unless there's a legal reason preventing us from talking about Curecoins like they are money then calling it money would be more effective.

A big reason why I waited so long to get into Bitcoins (and I'm NOT the only person, as tons of others had the same issue) is because sites referred to it as mining for cash. This is a huge red flag for a scam, and made a lot of us avoid it. I had heard about it back in 2009, but because of the scam aspect I stayed away. I didn't get involved until the middle-late 2013 as a result.

You have to consider how the outside is going to interpret it. Most things that allow you to use your PC to passively earn cash are scams. We learned that long ago.

Fair enough. I'd go for your suggestion then: "Get rewarded for helping cure disease with your computer!"

Would it make more sense to have that as the sub-heading, perhaps? I sort of like the tagline, then instead of "CureCoin is a CryptoCurrency based on coupling SHA-256 Mining and Folding@Home Protein Folding" which is a bit dry I could do "Earn rewards for helping cure diseases with your computer!" or something along those lines?

In all honesty even though its clever and possibly true to say that Curecoin is the cure for the common cryptocurrency, newcomers wont even know what a cryptocurrency is so it immediately raises a question, without telling them anything about Curecoin, other than that it might theoretically help get rid of some other cryptocurrencies, which isn't what Curecoin is about anyway (thought it may be a positive side effect). Even though it has a nice ring to it with the alliteration, I don't really think it belongs there at all.

We've got 1 short sentence to grab people's attention and tell them what Curecoin is all about.

I'd go with:

Help cure diseases with your PC and earn rewards.

Or if that's too long then:

Help cure diseases with your PC, earn rewards.

Then I'd leave the more technical second line as it is. That way the simple + technical sides are explained.

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Quote from: matt608 on May 19, 2014, 01:12:22 PM

Quote from: matt608 on May 19, 2014, 01:12:22 PM

Yeah I get where you're coming from, but 'rewards' can often be worthless, e.g. I get texted a to collect "rewards" for topping up my phone but I don't even bother because they're crappy worthless rewards. At least with when the term "money" or "get paid" is used you know it has value. Maybe talking about it in terms of rewards is better I'm not sure, but I would think unless there's a legal reason preventing us from talking about Curecoins like they are money then calling it money would be more effective.

A big reason why I waited so long to get into Bitcoins (and I'm NOT the only person, as tons of others had the same issue) is because sites referred to it as mining for cash. This is a huge red flag for a scam, and made a lot of us avoid it. I had heard about it back in 2009, but because of the scam aspect I stayed away. I didn't get involved until the middle-late 2013 as a result.

You have to consider how the outside is going to interpret it. Most things that allow you to use your PC to passively earn cash are scams. We learned that long ago.

Fair enough. I'd go for your suggestion then: "Get rewarded for helping cure disease with your computer!"

Would it make more sense to have that as the sub-heading, perhaps? I sort of like the tagline, then instead of "CureCoin is a CryptoCurrency based on coupling SHA-256 Mining and Folding@Home Protein Folding" which is a bit dry I could do "Earn rewards for helping cure diseases with your computer!" or something along those lines?

That would be a good way to handle it as well. Maybe a little refinement on the subheading as well to help spruce it up more...

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Yeah I get where you're coming from, but 'rewards' can often be worthless, e.g. I get texted a to collect "rewards" for topping up my phone but I don't even bother because they're crappy worthless rewards. At least with when the term "money" or "get paid" is used you know it has value. Maybe talking about it in terms of rewards is better I'm not sure, but I would think unless there's a legal reason preventing us from talking about Curecoins like they are money then calling it money would be more effective.

A big reason why I waited so long to get into Bitcoins (and I'm NOT the only person, as tons of others had the same issue) is because sites referred to it as mining for cash. This is a huge red flag for a scam, and made a lot of us avoid it. I had heard about it back in 2009, but because of the scam aspect I stayed away. I didn't get involved until the middle-late 2013 as a result.

You have to consider how the outside is going to interpret it. Most things that allow you to use your PC to passively earn cash are scams. We learned that long ago.

Fair enough. I'd go for your suggestion then: "Get rewarded for helping cure disease with your computer!"

Would it make more sense to have that as the sub-heading, perhaps? I sort of like the tagline, then instead of "CureCoin is a CryptoCurrency based on coupling SHA-256 Mining and Folding@Home Protein Folding" which is a bit dry I could do "Earn rewards for helping cure diseases with your computer!" or something along those lines?

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pool.terahashers.com

stratum+tcp://pool.terahashers.com:5008 -u -p

It really means something to me to participate in such a GOOD endeavor.

To the miners:
Tell me if you have any problem with my pool so that I can improve it.
The starting difficulty of the VARDIFF if '1024'.
You you think it is too low for most sha256 mining equipment I can make it higher.

We need to reach at least 10 TH/s hashing power to make the pool competitive.

Please join to help the poor guy that is solo mining in my pool...

Also, spreading the hashing power between different pools is what secures the network against a 51% attack (and that is what sha256 mining is for in the CureCoin network).

Right now almost 100% of all mining power of the network is shared between only 2 pools!
It is DANGEROUS!

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Yeah I get where you're coming from, but 'rewards' can often be worthless, e.g. I get texted a to collect "rewards" for topping up my phone but I don't even bother because they're crappy worthless rewards. At least with when the term "money" or "get paid" is used you know it has value. Maybe talking about it in terms of rewards is better I'm not sure, but I would think unless there's a legal reason preventing us from talking about Curecoins like they are money then calling it money would be more effective.

A big reason why I waited so long to get into Bitcoins (and I'm NOT the only person, as tons of others had the same issue) is because sites referred to it as mining for cash. This is a huge red flag for a scam, and made a lot of us avoid it. I had heard about it back in 2009, but because of the scam aspect I stayed away. I didn't get involved until the middle-late 2013 as a result.

You have to consider how the outside is going to interpret it. Most things that allow you to use your PC to passively earn cash are scams. We learned that long ago.

Fair enough. I'd go for your suggestion then: "Get rewarded for helping cure disease with your computer!"

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