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Topic: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts - page 271. (Read 821398 times)

legendary
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Merit: 1000
I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

The whole point of this project is to stand behind the principles that imply that he is not a hacker at all. Those funds legitimately belong to him. He can do as he likes with them.


mmmmm sorry i dont think thats what ETC sais ETC sais we are not the law like in lawenvorcement. but the line code is law means something different it means the blockchain is immutable the ledger shall not be changed. we do not say we know if the hack or the takeing was a crime . there need to be an investigation. we are not the despot to decide . every person has a right of a objective investigation and a trail befor anounced guilty. and thats why ETC happend. not becouse we say its legal what the "hacker" did. me thinks given the evidence that have been published he took them legit but moraly hmmm or ethicaly not correct.becouse if the code was supost to act like it did the whole thing the dao was created like a fraud. and so he followed the fraud. was just faster then the one who planed to do the fraud.


Sorry but I disagree. The main point of ethereum is to develop an autonomous legal system. As per the terms of that legal system, the only legal system that has jurisdiction in matters of the ethereum blockchain, the "hacker" was within legal bounds. If some outside legal agency wants to interfere with the self governence of the sovereign ethereum blockchain than they are aggressors.
hmm interesting point of view you have.
ok lets say you are right and it was ment to be a autonomous legal system ( didnt see that in the white paper but anyway) 
how can such a system prevent fraud ? like  i said befor if the hacker acted legal the whole dao was fraud haveing that bug on purpose.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

Hehe, this hacker is a funny guy  Wink
full member
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Merit: 137
SmileyGnome
I must admit... I never bought 1 single ETH. That being said... I didn't really fall into all the smart contract Hype... But now that the dust has settled I have bought and own ETC for the principles that CODE IS LAW. 

I support your Fork of the Central Banking ETH community and thank you for your efforts to keep Crypto Decentralized. Decentralize EVERYTHING. Be the Decentralization
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CODE IS LAW
If you are able to do something, just do it Wink
This is only one difference between cryptocurrencies and currencies !
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

The whole point of this project is to stand behind the principles that imply that he is not a hacker at all. Those funds legitimately belong to him. He can do as he likes with them.


mmmmm sorry i dont think thats what ETC sais ETC sais we are not the law like in lawenvorcement. but the line code is law means something different it means the blockchain is immutable the ledger shall not be changed. we do not say we know if the hack or the takeing was a crime . there need to be an investigation. we are not the despot to decide . every person has a right of a objective investigation and a trail befor anounced guilty. and thats why ETC happend. not becouse we say its legal what the "hacker" did. me thinks given the evidence that have been published he took them legit but moraly hmmm or ethicaly not correct.becouse if the code was supost to act like it did the whole thing the dao was created like a fraud. and so he followed the fraud. was just faster then the one who planed to do the fraud.


Sorry but I disagree. The main point of ethereum is to develop an autonomous legal system. As per the terms of that legal system, the only legal system that has jurisdiction in matters of the ethereum blockchain, the "hacker" was within legal bounds. If some outside legal agency wants to interfere with the self governence of the sovereign ethereum blockchain than they are aggressors.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217

Only 1000 ETC? Surely he can do better than that. He "earned" millions from the "hack" and that is all he can spare? That is funny. I cannot see how this is big news. Also there is the bigger problem. What does he intend to do with all his ETC now that he has full control of it? Not to dump on the market I hope. It would be nice to have an official statement from him.


Hackers are Bad guys. What ever the reason is, taking someone's property without consent is nothing but stealing. And we are expecting nice thing from a hacker ??

He had consent. Everyone who sent to the dao consented to the terms of the contract. That contract had an actionable clause in it allowing for him to make a withdrawal. Hes not a hacker. He was exercising his rights as per the terms and conditions of the contract that everyone agreed to.
legendary
Activity: 1775
Merit: 1032
Value will be measured in sats

Only 1000 ETC? Surely he can do better than that. He "earned" millions from the "hack" and that is all he can spare? That is funny. I cannot see how this is big news. Also there is the bigger problem. What does he intend to do with all his ETC now that he has full control of it? Not to dump on the market I hope. It would be nice to have an official statement from him.


Hackers are Bad guys. What ever the reason is, taking someone's property without consent is nothing but stealing. And we are expecting nice thing from a hacker ??

not all hackers are bad...many end up being a force for good by "stress testing" systems and highlighting security flaws. I wonder if the 1000 ETC is a test transfer before he/she transfers a lot more...that would send the price sky rocketing  Wink

Regardless, myself like a lot of other people are in ETC for the long term...seen too many people get burnt trying to game the market. buy low and hold long term always wins in my book
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

The whole point of this project is to stand behind the principles that imply that he is not a hacker at all. Those funds legitimately belong to him. He can do as he likes with them.


mmmmm sorry i dont think thats what ETC sais ETC sais we are not the law like in lawenvorcement. but the line code is law means something different it means the blockchain is immutable the ledger shall not be changed. we do not say we know if the hack or the takeing was a crime . there need to be an investigation. we are not the despot to decide . every person has a right of a objective investigation and a trail befor anounced guilty. and thats why ETC happend. not becouse we say its legal what the "hacker" did. me thinks given the evidence that have been published he took them legit but moraly hmmm or ethicaly not correct.becouse if the code was supost to act like it did the whole thing the dao was created like a fraud. and so he followed the fraud. was just faster then the one who planed to do the fraud.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1026

Only 1000 ETC? Surely he can do better than that. He "earned" millions from the "hack" and that is all he can spare? That is funny. I cannot see how this is big news. Also there is the bigger problem. What does he intend to do with all his ETC now that he has full control of it? Not to dump on the market I hope. It would be nice to have an official statement from him.


Hackers are Bad guys. What ever the reason is, taking someone's property without consent is nothing but stealing. And we are expecting nice thing from a hacker ??
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1506

Only 1000 ETC? Surely he can do better than that. He "earned" millions from the "hack" and that is all he can spare? That is funny. I cannot see how this is big news. Also there is the bigger problem. What does he intend to do with all his ETC now that he has full control of it? Not to dump on the market I hope. It would be nice to have an official statement from him.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.

The whole point of this project is to stand behind the principles that imply that he is not a hacker at all. Those funds legitimately belong to him. He can do as he likes with them.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1026
I think ETC should not receive or return the reward from the hacker.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Marie Curie, 2 x Nobel Prizes Physics & Chemistry
hero member
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CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!

Maybe hacker can donate me some etc too Smiley
Ths hacker really hate ethereum foundation lol
legendary
Activity: 1590
Merit: 1002
member
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I am very active on Troll, and i actually saw 3 posts today saying.. i just swap my ETH to ETC.. soo yeah people getting in.. every day someone new.. time will tell. Thats why i just got 950 ETC MORE. =)
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etc stands still in between .0022 to .0025. many other coins are getting too many attraction. etc is not doing that bad but not good either. my daily trading is stopped as no btc to invest elsewhere

The time will come. If you want invest longterm, if not wait few days and Trading days will come again. I personaly invested in ETC longterm because i believe in this project, and everyday there is more support. They are working hard on it and ETC hold the price on "nothing" if you want to hear this( is not nothing, but people keep saying it). Now imagine what will happen when they actually deliver something? There is 1000 of people who still dont want to invest in ETC because they are scared of something, lots of them holding ETH because price is more stable.. now im waiting what will happen in next months when ETC will show UP trend.. Hmm.. i wonder..  Cool Wink
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Marie Curie, 2 x Nobel Prizes Physics & Chemistry
etc stands still in between .0022 to .0025. many other coins are getting too many attraction. etc is not doing that bad but not good either. my daily trading is stopped as no btc to invest elsewhere

Traders dread stability  Wink
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