Quite amazing what I've been seeing. Comes down to the pure hatred of Etherium to the point of trying to use it against itself, and people stupid enough to give away their money to a thief and the like, utterly amazing.
It's like inviting a thief into your home and watching him pick out whatever they want and waving goodby with a smile on your face.
Vitalik has as nicely as he possibly can said goodby to all that to move on with Ethereum.
It has become quite apparent that Ethereum will move on with the continued development and all the backing of what is being developed on it and all else will be left behind in what they have so wanted.
Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 822. (Read 2006403 times)
ETC stands for Ether Coin. Forked ETH is not money but fuel for smart contracts that can be reversed and canceled by Ethereum Foundation devs.
Ok, so ETC is a Bitcoin competitor and ETH is a smart contract platform. That clears everything up. Thx!
ETC stands for Ether Coin. Forked ETH is not money but fuel for smart contracts that can be reversed and canceled by Ethereum Foundation devs.
side note -i dumped in the first hour and rebought at 0.0003-0.0004 , got my free etc back, got free btc and bought some ETH
side note - I believe everything you say, pumpy. Why should you lie?i believe mr pumperities, mr pumperitis was the first to post about dao hack on this thread if im not mistaken.
Nobody has still answered my question, so let me try rephrase it a bit.
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
Somebody please, thanks!!!
You're coins are safe if you only ever use the address for ETH. If you transfer ETC to it and then transfer ETC out your ETH will likely move too.
BTW "replay attack" is a bit misleading as it implies somebody may attack you or even take your coins, which is not always the case. If you transfer coins between your own addresses you can still recover them even if replay happened - you just import the private key of the destination address into both wallets and then do a clean split. It becomes a problem when you send to a third party, e.g. an exchange. And even more of a problem if someone comes up with a social engineering plan, e.g. sends you a small amount of ETC and asks to send it back or some such nonsense.
tl;dr: your coins are safe, don't ever use the same address on both chains.
Thanks for a clear and precise answer. I will create a brand new ETH address then that I will only use for ETH and transfer my funds there. Thanks!
Nobody has still answered my question, so let me try rephrase it a bit.
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
Somebody please, thanks!!!
You're coins are safe if you only ever use the address for ETH. If you transfer ETC to it and then transfer ETC out your ETH will likely move too.
BTW "replay attack" is a bit misleading as it implies somebody may attack you or even take your coins, which is not always the case. If you transfer coins between your own addresses you can still recover them even if replay happened - you just import the private key of the destination address into both wallets and then do a clean split. It becomes a problem when you send to a third party, e.g. an exchange. And even more of a problem if someone comes up with a social engineering plan, e.g. sends you a small amount of ETC and asks to send it back or some such nonsense.
tl;dr: your coins are safe, don't ever use the same address on both chains.
How do you get bitcoiners and other Ethereum haters to get into Ethereum?
....add the word classic,lol
....add the word classic,lol
Yea, looks like many people are buying it just for the ideology...
But I don't know, if this is really true or it's only a trolling on a large scale.
We will see, when the attacker starts to dump his coins...
But maybe it was not that bad to keep the old chain after all.
If ETH changes to pos, ETC will most likely not follow and then the two chains are really reasonable.
But hopefully this will not be even more messy so that it turns out to be 4 chains. ETH POS, ETH POW, ETC POS and ETC POW...
It depends on the ideology of the DAO hacker. If he just wants the money, he could short it and dump it to death.
How do you get bitcoiners and other Ethereum haters to get into Ethereum?
....add the word classic,lol
....add the word classic,lol
Yea, looks like many people are buying it just for the ideology...
But I don't know, if this is really true or it's only a trolling on a large scale.
We will see, when the attacker starts to dump his coins...
But maybe it was not that bad to keep the old chain after all.
If ETH changes to pos, ETC will most likely not follow and then the two chains are really reasonable.
But hopefully this will not be even more messy so that it turns out to be 4 chains. ETH POS, ETH POW, ETC POS and ETC POW...
It depends on the ideology of the DAO hacker. If he just wants the money, he could short it and dump it to death.
side note -i dumped in the first hour and rebought at 0.0003-0.0004 , got my free etc back, got free btc and bought some ETH
side note - I believe everything you say, pumpy. Why should you lie?
side note -i dumped in the first hour and rebought at 0.0003-0.0004 , got my free etc back, got free btc and bought some ETH
side note - I believe everything you say, pumpy. Why should you lie? Nobody has still answered my question, so let me try rephrase it a bit.
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
Somebody please, thanks!!!
You're not safe as you have already sold your ETC following the wrong advice from die hard forkers.
Neither of the chains is safe as both are now susceptible to replay attacks as long as they exist in parallel. Stronger chain is less susceptible while weaker chain is more susceptible. As etc chain is getting stronger every day forked chain will experience replay attacks more and more often.
To resolve this situation one of the chains has to implement a hard fork. Since Classic chain won't do that the only option is Forked chain to implement a hard fork... again.
How do you get bitcoiners and other Ethereum haters to get into Ethereum?
....add the word classic,lol
....add the word classic,lol
Yea, looks like many people are buying it just for the ideology...
But I don't know, if this is really true or it's only a trolling on a large scale.
We will see, when the attacker starts to dump his coins...
But maybe it was not that bad to keep the old chain after all.
If ETH changes to pos, ETC will most likely not follow and then the two chains are really reasonable.
But hopefully this will not be even more messy so that it turns out to be 4 chains. ETH POS, ETH POW, ETC POS and ETC POW...
Nobody has still answered my question, so let me try rephrase it a bit.
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
Somebody please, thanks!!!
Yes, etH safe
To make sure everything is correct, transfer 1 ETH first, then 99.
Nobody has still answered my question, so let me try rephrase it a bit.
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
Somebody please, thanks!!!
Yes, etH safe
To make sure everything is correct, transfer 1 ETH first, then 99.
Hence I think ETC is a big scam!
Before 7/20 ETC was not a scam, right? Why is this SAME coin a scam now?ETC = ETH (without ETH Foundation)
Conclusion:
If you buy ETH now you pay 10% for ETH and the rest 90% you pay for shares in the non-profit ETH Foundatioon... Quite stupid, isn't it?
People that bought ETC during ICO made a fortune because there was no pre-mine this time.
Just look at the charts!
What etc ico? lol
Hence I think ETC is a big scam!
Before 7/20 ETC was not a scam, right? Why is this SAME coin a scam now?ETC = ETH (without ETH Foundation)
Conclusion:
If you buy ETH now you pay 10% for ETH and the rest 90% you pay for shares in the non-profit ETH Foundatioon... Quite stupid, isn't it?
People that bought ETC during ICO made a fortune because there was no pre-mine this time.
Just look at the charts!
Hence I think ETC is a big scam!
Before 7/20 ETC was not a scam, right? Why is this SAME coin a scam now?ETC = ETH (without ETH Foundation)
Conclusion:
If you buy ETH now you pay 10% for ETH and the rest 90% you pay for shares in the non-profit ETH Foundatioon... Quite stupid, isn't it?
Nobody has still answered my question, so let me try rephrase it a bit.
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
Somebody please, thanks!!!
they already have your money, they don't care now.
Nobody has still answered my question, so let me try rephrase it a bit.
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
If a new guy in crypto world wakes up this morning and decides to invest into ETH. He sends his btc to poloniex, gets himself 100 eths. He then downloads mist wallet and clicks onto YES I SUPPORT THE FORK when wallet starts the first time. He then withdraws his 100 eths to his new wallet address. Is this person safe from a replay attack or not.
The common sense tells me that he is safe since he is operating on the forked chain with an address that never existed before the block 1920000 but I want to make sure and check with the community. I don't want to make a mistake and scratch my head afterwards.
Thanks guys!
Somebody please, thanks!!!
You say that ETC was better, more true coin ...
Why buy orders of poloniex are twice as high than ETH???
This does not mean that people want to buy more ETH?
Just asking
Placing a buy order doesn't necessarily mean you're going to buy. Why buy orders of poloniex are twice as high than ETH???
This does not mean that people want to buy more ETH?
Just asking
Only sure thing is that you're announcing your intention to other market participants.
This is why limit orders are often used to manipulate markets.
If you really want to buy you just buy it at market and that is it.
Just answering.
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