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legendary
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Both chains are equally susceptible to replay. You move ETC, your ETH (if any) will move from the same address, and vice versa. Not sure how much more obvious it needs to be for you guys to understand it.


That is correct,  just Google for ethereum fork replay attack and I do think you would probably start to overthink if you really move your coins now..

They didn't do the HF correctly or really safe
legendary
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https://bpip.org
ok ill address this point u keep trying to make once...when i made the mining profitability claims, etc was under 0.0009 and went to 0.0007 for around 8hours...this is the time i posted what i said because it was true, go check the times and you will see. I also hear etc is again not worth mining as ETH gives more profit.

That's your problem, you hear things (or just make them up, hard to tell) and parrot around without any facts to back them up. Exchange rate isn't the only variable in mining profitability but you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? The reason I kept asking is because your claim was blatantly false at that time, not because I care either way. Spreading bullshit isn't helping ETH (or ETC for that matter) so I'm not quite certain what's your goal here? To be the intertubes village idiot? Good luck, there is no lack of candidates for that position.

No, you're wrong. Eth is fine, your house is the one on fire.
Im pretty sure ETH is safe because of the fork, not the other way around.

Both chains are equally susceptible to replay. You move ETC, your ETH (if any) will move from the same address, and vice versa. Not sure how much more obvious it needs to be for you guys to understand it.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.

The ETC community. That's who.

I doubt you'll get this lot to HF to PoS. You might even struggle to get them to HF to remove the diff bomb.

before those two forks they also need to fork asap to avoid replay attacks, which have been occuring,lol
as i heard vitalik asked etc to fork becouse at the moment ( one said the ether team coding the fork didnt expect to have a split and therefor did it sort of in a rush and missed the replay attackthing) both are on risk of the replayattack till one does a hardfork. adn since etc refuses and has not as must to lose as eth i guess vitalik has to do the fork. am i right so far ? means another fork ?
and considering this i do totaly understand tht vitalik said he suports eth.

No, you're wrong. Eth is fine, your house is the one on fire.

Im pretty sure ETH is safe because of the fork, not the other way around.

Yup, but they won't HF, and code is law. So I guess Barry "Babyface" Silbert will be hoarding hacker money.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.

The ETC community. That's who.

I doubt you'll get this lot to HF to PoS. You might even struggle to get them to HF to remove the diff bomb.

before those two forks they also need to fork asap to avoid replay attacks, which have been occuring,lol
as i heard vitalik asked etc to fork becouse at the moment ( one said the ether team coding the fork didnt expect to have a split and therefor did it sort of in a rush and missed the replay attackthing) both are on risk of the replayattack till one does a hardfork. adn since etc refuses and has not as must to lose as eth i guess vitalik has to do the fork. am i right so far ? means another fork ?
and considering this i do totaly understand tht vitalik said he suports eth.

No, you're wrong. Eth is fine, your house is the one on fire.

Im pretty sure ETH is safe because of the fork, not the other way around.

legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.

The ETC community. That's who.

I doubt you'll get this lot to HF to PoS. You might even struggle to get them to HF to remove the diff bomb.

before those two forks they also need to fork asap to avoid replay attacks, which have been occuring,lol
as i heard vitalik asked etc to fork becouse at the moment ( one said the ether team coding the fork didnt expect to have a split and therefor did it sort of in a rush and missed the replay attackthing) both are on risk of the replayattack till one does a hardfork. adn since etc refuses and has not as must to lose as eth i guess vitalik has to do the fork. am i right so far ? means another fork ?
and considering this i do totaly understand tht vitalik said he suports eth.

No, you're wrong. Eth is fine, your house is the one on fire.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.

The ETC community. That's who.

I doubt you'll get this lot to HF to PoS. You might even struggle to get them to HF to remove the diff bomb.

before those two forks they also need to fork asap to avoid replay attacks, which have been occuring,lol
as i heard vitalik asked etc to fork becouse at the moment ( one said the ether team coding the fork didnt expect to have a split and therefor did it sort of in a rush and missed the replay attackthing) both are on risk of the replayattack till one does a hardfork. adn since etc refuses and has not as must to lose as eth i guess vitalik has to do the fork. am i right so far ? means another fork ?
and considering this i do totaly understand tht vitalik said he suports eth.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 1075
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.

The ETC community. That's who.

I doubt you'll get this lot to HF to PoS. You might even struggle to get them to HF to remove the diff bomb.

before those two forks they also need to fork asap to avoid replay attacks, which have been occuring,lol

I know, I asked in their thread. It doesn't seem like they understand what's going on.
bitpoop just deletes anyone trying to advise...or some idiot says your fudding,lol...
dapps dont work, etc being stolen..
seems like they dont care
hero member
Activity: 561
Merit: 500
YOU CAN BUY ETC ON KRAKEN WITH A 20% DISCOUNT!!! BUY ON KRAKEN SELL ON POLONIEX!!!

wow i just got a flashback of mtgox when i read that,lol.
You can't withdraw

Yes, but they will enable it one day, no? so you still have those 20% discount.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
YOU CAN BUY ETC ON KRAKEN WITH A 20% DISCOUNT!!! BUY ON KRAKEN SELL ON POLONIEX!!!

wow i just got a flashback of mtgox when i read that,lol.
You can't withdraw
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 1075
YOU CAN BUY ETC ON KRAKEN WITH A 20% DISCOUNT!!! BUY ON KRAKEN SELL ON POLONIEX!!!

wow i just got a flashback of mtgox when i read that,lol.
hero member
Activity: 561
Merit: 500
YOU CAN BUY ETC ON KRAKEN WITH A 20% DISCOUNT!!! BUY ON KRAKEN SELL ON POLONIEX!!!
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.

The ETC community. That's who.

I doubt you'll get this lot to HF to PoS. You might even struggle to get them to HF to remove the diff bomb.

before those two forks they also need to fork asap to avoid replay attacks, which have been occuring,lol

I know, I asked in their thread. It doesn't seem like they understand what's going on.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 1075
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.

The ETC community. That's who.

I doubt you'll get this lot to HF to PoS. You might even struggle to get them to HF to remove the diff bomb.

before those two forks they also need to fork asap to avoid replay attacks, which have been occuring,lol
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 1075
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.

Except this fork wasn't and update or a fix, it was messing with the immutable blockchain, therefore the resistance. Any non-controversial updates can be applied to ETC so "developing for the ETH chain" is moot.

But then again, you're just making this up as your did with the mining profitability claims, right?
ok ill address this point u keep trying to make once...when i made the mining profitability claims, etc was under 0.0009 and went to 0.0007 for around 8hours...this is the time i posted what i said because it was true, go check the times and you will see. I also hear etc is again not worth mining as ETH gives more profit.

legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.

Except this fork wasn't and update or a fix, it was messing with the immutable blockchain, therefore the resistance. Any non-controversial updates can be applied to ETC so "developing for the ETH chain" is moot.

But then again, you're just making this up as your did with the mining profitability claims, right?
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1014
Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.

The ETC community. That's who.

I doubt you'll get this lot to HF to PoS. You might even struggle to get them to HF to remove the diff bomb.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
this is good pumpy but what or who will stop the etc project to just copy and if neccesary to adapt what the dev team publishes . dont forget the ether is  publicdomain.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 1075
For all those that claim etc is real chain blah blah, that is wrong.

The Ethereum is still in development and will fork many more times as updates and fixes are added.

People buy Ethereum because of the dev team, the dev team is around midway to completing the Ethereum project.

Once the devs finish you will get a complete version of Ethereum only as ETH, Vitailk said today they are only developing for the ETH chain.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
I just dump my ETC stash... f helaroius, free bitcoins... thank you guys.

i also dump my etc, it has no dev, no roadmap, only  hype.
You're welcome too. Dump more. Who needs devs that miss such security holes in Solidity and such roadmaps as DAO failure?

thats a good point of yours, btw i also reducing my eth holding. just too much risk for me to hold alot of eth atm.
 


This chain will not be supported by Vitalik, period... its alive only because hacker interest and most likely Chinese miners - maybe the same people.
so they keep the chain alive, mine that shit with low difficulty and slowly offload the stolen money... ha

or maybe this is only my paranoia:) don't care but I will not support thieves.
Poloniex = sellout
that scars me a little bit, sure vitalik is smart but he is young and with this attitude" vitalik no matter what i follow you" you are not doing him or the blockchain technologie any good.
blockchain does one thing in all the coins it demands independenc and automonie from you. i mean you have to watch out you control and oyu are responsible for security. if something you invest in or your wallet is compromised you are responsible not like in the old paradigma where the bank does every thing for you you dont even know wht it does how it works.

so the attitude VITALIK our leader is wow scary ......
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000

On the contrary, I think it is the best thing that could happen: everybody is now closer to his personal desire than if one had to stick to a single common goal.    This is a great lesson.   One shouldn't in fact be afraid of forking block chains.  Many forks are a good thing, because they can tune better each prong to individual desires, rather than have the common soup for everybody.

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hmmm a very good point, so if there are more and more forks ( sidechain, clones, of the same thing) the number of new alt would shrink but also the ability to have a chain owned by a few . ownership would be useles. creating something that can be copied is no profitable biz. and the risk of to much power in one hand or a few hands is band too. i think of too big to fail .............
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