[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 901.

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Quote from: LBX on June 18, 2016, 08:29:46 PM

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Quote from: Pizpie on June 18, 2016, 08:03:04 PM

There will be a lot of lessons learned from recent events, but there are still a lot of great projects being built with Ethereum in mind...
Plutus.it is making Ethereum and Bitcoin available as a form of payment at any merchant with NFC enabled payment terminals and recently did a live field test.

https://twitter.com/PlutusIT/status/743875623375015936

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ETH lives on 4evaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

It's funny
That there are people that this project will break btc and become number one hhhh
There are projects much better than this project
Team scam + trading scam
Currency only pumped bring people and the buyer and then dump hard Angry

ill die with eth if i have too,lol muuhahahaha but i wont stop buying...i dont givee aa.......lol.....i jus hope eth dumpers dump even harder.............wait till mon Tongue

if this coin wants to be BIG....it has to get rid of the WEAK...A FEW BILL IS NOTHING if u beilive fiat is collapsing worse than the dao,lol

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Quote from: Mrpumperitis on June 18, 2016, 08:16:46 PM

Quote from: Pizpie on June 18, 2016, 08:03:04 PM

There will be a lot of lessons learned from recent events, but there are still a lot of great projects being built with Ethereum in mind...
Plutus.it is making Ethereum and Bitcoin available as a form of payment at any merchant with NFC enabled payment terminals and recently did a live field test.

https://twitter.com/PlutusIT/status/743875623375015936

+1
ETH lives on 4evaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

It's funny
That there are people that this project will break btc and become number one hhhh
There are projects much better than this project
Team scam + trading scam
Currency only pumped bring people and the buyer and then dump hard Angry

Mrpumperitis

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Quote from: Pizpie on June 18, 2016, 08:03:04 PM

There will be a lot of lessons learned from recent events, but there are still a lot of great projects being built with Ethereum in mind...
Plutus.it is making Ethereum and Bitcoin available as a form of payment at any merchant with NFC enabled payment terminals and recently did a live field test.

https://twitter.com/PlutusIT/status/743875623375015936

+1
ETH lives on 4evaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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There will be a lot of lessons learned from recent events, but there are still a lot of great projects being built with Ethereum in mind...
Plutus.it is making Ethereum and Bitcoin available as a form of payment at any merchant with NFC enabled payment terminals and recently did a live field test.

https://twitter.com/PlutusIT/status/743875623375015936

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I do not trust in this project from the beginning
People say the future and smart dialing blalbalbala
take a look
Size more than 81 million
Most Coins his
Who controls the market? he and
Pumping every day until up to the agreed price and then dump booooom
And then you hear there hacker work this problem Hahaha Grin

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well, Bitcoin for the win!

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I'm sorry, I was a long term holder for ETH but it's completely finished. Slock.it was one of their bigger projects going forward and look how it ended. I'm sure the ETH guys are honest people but they look like dumbasses now. They were curators of the DAO, they must have taken a look at the DAO code.

Sure, bad code is to blame, but these people are actually the leading devs in the world and couldn't avoid such bug? Smart contracts can be compromised now, so what's ETH now? Will you invest in the next DAO, dApp now? Will you send your ETH and BTC to anyone and trust they've written IRON CODE (like the DAO website displayed...). I trusted the curators and the slock.it guys, who else will I trust now?

Sorry but you know that's the truth. It's done, it may hang around for months but this is not as simple as you think it is.

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Does anybody know why the ETH draining from the DAO stopped at approximately 7.9M ETH?

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Quote from: hamzatu on June 18, 2016, 12:47:26 PM

Did anyone else notice that this exploit was predicted ten days ago? Why wasn't something done then?

http://www.coindesk.com/dao-can-keep-becoming-next-mt-gox/

that was one of the reasons the moratorium was proposed. but investors of the DAO where too dumb to understand how important that is and declined.

#fallacyofthecrowd

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Another same thing happened, pump and dump because of bad news, what's next ?

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IPO = SCAM ¡¡ Angry

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Honestly though, wit PoS on the horizon, this price swing is pretty sweet for those that were waiting for a lower buy-in rate. Just drop a bit more and I can hit my goals!

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Quote from: M28MmickT on June 18, 2016, 01:02:42 PM

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Quote from: M28MmickT on June 18, 2016, 11:25:33 AM

Let's make this clear, to the hacker:

Being decentralized means being in the power of people, not a directive board or in the code, you just stole 3.6 million ether but for nothing because you will not be able to withdraw you dumb, you can't take any legal action because people (51%) did not authorized your theft, and you said you will sue? LOL yes, sue us all 10k investors, you are speaking only fantasies. Cheesy

Then to slock it and ethereum team:

Ethereum should make a hard fork and return all ether to DAO holders, that was just a buggy code giving away money to a robber without a reason, the people behind this DAO (investors) never authorized that DAO split, otherwise I would think of an INSIDE job and I would call you all scammers, slock.it and Ethereum, and with more reason now that slock it is closing, if you don't make the roll back this will look like an scam by you.

you are the dumb. The attacker won already. because he has a 3k put on ethereum. And if we hard fork, ethers price will never recover...
I can just repeat myself. offer him the option to give 90% back.

What means your "3k put on ethereum" ?? you are more dumb than the attacker, those bugs should affect the price for sure as any other bug on technologies but thats all, your "eth price will never recover" is only your proofless especulation opinion, as any other on the speculation topic.

People don't make deals with thieves, he will get 0 ether.

90% back?, if someone gets into your hause and takes your 5 childs, you will say "hey just return me 4 of them"?? , you are very idiot.

Put means, that he actually gains, if ether drops.
It was not a bug of ethereum. The action of the attacker was not against the ethereum law. The DAO had the bad code. If we change ether because of this, the developers/miners are setting an authority, which it is not supposed to have. DAO was the decentralized authority code, but it was written wrong.
And with the child... What a comparison. We are talking about money here. Not life. So would you give your child for half a million ether?
This is negotiating. Every stakeholder will be fine with a 10% loss. I am... at the moment we lost already more than 50% of ALL funds by price decrease anyway, so what do you want... this is more than the attacker even took...

The atacker is clearly not doing it only for the money, he wants to kill DAO (which succeded) and hurt Ethereum, if he receives the funds stolen he will not return anything, I only stated than negotiating with thieves is wrong in crypto, outside life and any other environment just like the governments do (the few correct things governments do), this is what can really kill ethereum if they start making deals with a supposed hacker putting us down to a cryptsy scammy exchange level.

of course that is not like we let him take the money and hope, that he gives 90%. We are on a smart contract platform...

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I'ts interesting, i will be watching...

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Quote from: lambofan on June 18, 2016, 01:45:36 PM

Quote from: hamzatu on June 18, 2016, 12:47:26 PM

Did anyone else notice that this exploit was predicted ten days ago? Why wasn't something done then?

http://www.coindesk.com/dao-can-keep-becoming-next-mt-gox/

Yeah, Who would have thought that could happen.

Some multi-millionaire dev as in eth will not going to read such news .
Anyone simply answer how can hard fork solve the problem ?

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$DCO is trying to decide which blockchain to clone. They're currently deciding between Ethereums next version or Synereos first version. What do people think will be better?

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Quote from: Gyrsur on June 18, 2016, 01:08:09 PM

Ethereum will never be same like before this incident either way. if they decide to HF or block the "attacker" address it's not decentralized anymore.

If it's miners that decide whether to walk path A or path B, I'm not entirely sure, why it should be less decentralized than before.

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ETH will be fine because the gpu miners want something not yet killed by asics.

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Quote from: Gyrsur on June 18, 2016, 01:08:09 PM

Ethereum will never be same like before this incident either way. if they decide to HF or block the "attacker" address it's not decentralized anymore.

Hard-fork in this case isn't really an issue of decentralization, its about the mode of legitimacy and the consensus about it. People that are in favor of smart-contracts as the new form of legitimacy should mine on the fork that favors the DAO's law against its spirit, and the people that are in favor of smart-contracts requiring safeguards, like banks and current laws, should mine on the fork that favors the spirit of DAO against it's law. If one fork wins over the other, it doesn't mean its decentralized, but it will probably mean that people much prefer the human law and not the smart-contracts, ironically, even when they invested in DAO exactly for the opposite reason. Of course this is painting it rather black and white, a more sane approach would just be to say we're obviously not ready for smart-law and it will take a while before we can get there, with perhaps many more forks in the road.

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