Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 897. (Read 2007090 times)

Quote from: SiNeReiNZzz on June 19, 2016, 06:33:10 AM

Your last comment actually is SO dumb and disgusting it proves pretty well What an ignorant, dumb and disgusting Person you are.

Whenever there is a chance of saving Any Human life OF COURSE YOU SHALL SAVE IT - there is no Discussion necessary at all for such a question, regardless of other unknown things that MAY happen.

We are not talking about Human life here but of a flaw, an error in a Piece of code that was exploited by some individuals without of the consensus or without the approval of the majority.

Imagine a Bank that gets robbed and afterwards you are suing the Bank for getting robbed and not the robbers because they did such a decent Job and did Not get caught (at first)...

Other coins implement voting Features so that Similar happenings can be circumvented by the majority.. The miners or HODLers Wink

thank you ocminer, its starting to feel like common sense is lost in these forums nowadays.

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if Eth comes back it will be bigger.

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 06:34:11 AM

Quote from: ocminer on June 19, 2016, 06:27:32 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 06:25:35 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 04:10:21 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:49:56 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: ocminer on June 19, 2016, 06:27:32 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

That still doesn't change anything on the situation

The point is, that we are not allowed to go back in time, just because we can. You always have side effects you don't foresee.
For example if you go back and kill hitler you save millions of people. But maybe the russians may have taken lead of the world and bombed usa with an atomic bomb and killed even more...

Your last comment actually is SO dumb and disgusting it proves pretty well What an ignorant, dumb and disgusting Person you are.

Whenever there is a chance of saving Any Human life OF COURSE YOU SHALL SAVE IT - there is no Discussion necessary at all for such a question, regardless of other unknown things that MAY happen.

We are not talking about Human life here but of a flaw, an error in a Piece of code that was exploited by some individuals without of the consensus or without the approval of the majority.

Imagine a Bank that gets robbed and afterwards you are suing the Bank for getting robbed and not the robbers because they did such a decent Job and did Not get caught (at first)...

Other coins implement voting Features so that Similar happenings can be circumvented by the majority.. The miners or HODLers Wink

Did you ever watch Butterfly Effect? That's more or less explaining, what I want to say. Because it seems you didn't understand it.

We are not in Hollywood here.. You are obviously the one who is NOT understanding MANY things here

I am understanding your point more than mine, thats the case. I thought about everything you say already, you don't tell me anything new. But did you ever think longer about the arguments of the opponents?
I am talking about movies, that explain facts. Its not about hollywood.

Okay then let me give you a very disgusting example back, also a movie:

A robber Breaks Into your House, Rapes your wife, kills her after the rape, then sells your daughter on a Human Market where she will be Set on Drugs and Sold for Prostitution...

You have the Chance to go back in time but you wouldnt because it is not good?

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 06:25:35 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 04:10:21 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:49:56 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 06:25:35 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

That still doesn't change anything on the situation

The point is, that we are not allowed to go back in time, just because we can. You always have side effects you don't foresee.
For example if you go back and kill hitler you save millions of people. But maybe the russians may have taken lead of the world and bombed usa with an atomic bomb and killed even more...

Your last comment actually is SO dumb and disgusting it proves pretty well What an ignorant, dumb and disgusting Person you are.

Whenever there is a chance of saving Any Human life OF COURSE YOU SHALL SAVE IT - there is no Discussion necessary at all for such a question, regardless of other unknown things that MAY happen.

We are not talking about Human life here but of a flaw, an error in a Piece of code that was exploited by some individuals without of the consensus or without the approval of the majority.

Imagine a Bank that gets robbed and afterwards you are suing the Bank for getting robbed and not the robbers because they did such a decent Job and did Not get caught (at first)...

Other coins implement voting Features so that Similar happenings can be circumvented by the majority.. The miners or HODLers Wink

Did you ever watch Butterfly Effect? That's more or less explaining, what I want to say. Because it seems you didn't understand it.

We are not in Hollywood here.. You are obviously the one who is NOT understanding MANY things here

I am understanding your point more than mine, thats the case. I thought about everything you say already, you don't tell me anything new. But did you ever think longer about the arguments of the opponents?
I am talking about movies, that explain facts. Its not about hollywood.

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I think ETH come back soon... Wink

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Why is everyone ignoring the fact ETH has just added a blacklist to the currency as some kind of "fix" to a 3rd party smart contract.

Are people really that naïve to think that this blacklist wont be exploited by political of financial bodies.

Why is ETH even getting involved in a 3rd party software bug, especially with something as controversial as a hardfork.

Now every smart contract developer can ignore BASIC UNIT TESTING and just deploy contracts cause if anything goes wrong the ETH centralized network will just add that contract to their blacklist too.

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 04:10:21 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:49:56 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

That still doesn't change anything on the situation

The point is, that we are not allowed to go back in time, just because we can. You always have side effects you don't foresee.
For example if you go back and kill hitler you save millions of people. But maybe the russians may have taken lead of the world and bombed usa with an atomic bomb and killed even more...

Your last comment actually is SO dumb and disgusting it proves pretty well What an ignorant, dumb and disgusting Person you are.

Whenever there is a chance of saving Any Human life OF COURSE YOU SHALL SAVE IT - there is no Discussion necessary at all for such a question, regardless of other unknown things that MAY happen.

We are not talking about Human life here but of a flaw, an error in a Piece of code that was exploited by some individuals without of the consensus or without the approval of the majority.

Imagine a Bank that gets robbed and afterwards you are suing the Bank for getting robbed and not the robbers because they did such a decent Job and did Not get caught (at first)...

Other coins implement voting Features so that Similar happenings can be circumvented by the majority.. The miners or HODLers Wink

Did you ever watch Butterfly Effect? That's more or less explaining, what I want to say. Because it seems you didn't understand it.

We are not in Hollywood here.. You are obviously the one who is NOT understanding MANY things here

lordoliver

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 04:10:21 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:49:56 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 04:10:21 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

That still doesn't change anything on the situation

The point is, that we are not allowed to go back in time, just because we can. You always have side effects you don't foresee.
For example if you go back and kill hitler you save millions of people. But maybe the russians may have taken lead of the world and bombed usa with an atomic bomb and killed even more...

Your last comment actually is SO dumb and disgusting it proves pretty well What an ignorant, dumb and disgusting Person you are.

Whenever there is a chance of saving Any Human life OF COURSE YOU SHALL SAVE IT - there is no Discussion necessary at all for such a question, regardless of other unknown things that MAY happen.

We are not talking about Human life here but of a flaw, an error in a Piece of code that was exploited by some individuals without of the consensus or without the approval of the majority.

Imagine a Bank that gets robbed and afterwards you are suing the Bank for getting robbed and not the robbers because they did such a decent Job and did Not get caught (at first)...

Other coins implement voting Features so that Similar happenings can be circumvented by the majority.. The miners or HODLers Wink

Did you ever watch Butterfly Effect? That's more or less explaining, what I want to say. Because it seems you didn't understand it.

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:49:56 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: Lucky - Luciano on June 19, 2016, 06:02:37 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

That still doesn't change anything on the situation

The point is, that we are not allowed to go back in time, just because we can. You always have side effects you don't foresee.
For example if you go back and kill hitler you save millions of people. But maybe the russians may have taken lead of the world and bombed usa with an atomic bomb and killed even more...

Your last comment actually is SO dumb and disgusting it proves pretty well What an ignorant, dumb and disgusting Person you are.

Whenever there is a chance of saving Any Human life OF COURSE YOU SHALL SAVE IT - there is no Discussion necessary at all for such a question, regardless of other unknown things that MAY happen.

We are not talking about Human life here but of a flaw, an error in a Piece of code that was exploited by some individuals without of the consensus or without the approval of the majority.

Imagine a Bank that gets robbed and afterwards you are suing the Bank for getting robbed and not the robbers because they did such a decent Job and did Not get caught (at first)...

Other coins implement voting Features so that Similar happenings can be circumvented by the majority.. The miners or HODLers Wink

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 04:10:21 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:49:56 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 04:10:21 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

That still doesn't change anything on the situation

The point is, that we are not allowed to go back in time, just because we can. You always have side effects you don't foresee.
For example if you go back and kill hitler you save millions of people. But maybe the russians may have taken lead of the world and bombed usa with an atomic bomb and killed even more...

Perhaps the Russians to do (when you say). The atomic bomb is was then thrown already, and threw the Americans who are killed and maimed several hundreds of thousands of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. Russia is a symbol of justice, peace and harmony in the world, asshole . This is the theme of the Ethereum and is not about politics,war,etc.

No. Ethereum is about a bunch of retarded Devs who caused the coin to go shit because of an exploit.

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:49:56 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: Timeline on June 19, 2016, 05:49:31 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

That still doesn't change anything on the situation

The point is, that we are not allowed to go back in time, just because we can. You always have side effects you don't foresee.
For example if you go back and kill hitler you save millions of people. But maybe the russians may have taken lead of the world and bombed usa with an atomic bomb and killed even more...

Perhaps the Russians to do (when you say). The atomic bomb is was then thrown already, and threw the Americans who are killed and maimed several hundreds of thousands of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan. Russia is a symbol of justice, peace and harmony in the world, asshole . This is the theme of the Ethereum and is not about politics,war,etc.

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Eth will recover soon from all of this hassle and go back to close to previous prices.

its gona fly past previous prices...
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I have seen what you are saying with every shitcoin in existence. It's delusional. The brain-trust behind this coin should be beat and pissed on.

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Eth will recover soon from all of this hassle and go back to close to previous prices.

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Well, i am out. Thank you ETH. https://i.imgur.com/jx5bvyJ.gif

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Quote from: roselee on June 19, 2016, 04:54:56 AM

all of you talk about the stolen ether from the dao
and how to fix it and roll back and so on
but that will not fix the damage
we the ether holder who had notheing to do with dao
we have a big loss
ether was high and is now low

thats a wrong approach to this. as the DAO crowdfunded ether was low and high afterwards and nobody complained.

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all of you talk about the stolen ether from the dao
and how to fix it and roll back and so on
but that will not fix the damage
we the ether holder who had notheing to do with dao
we have a big loss
ether was high and is now low
and a hardfork ? will that be good for the ether price ? i daubt it
so we again pay for the code done by whom ?
id realy like to know who did that code
and missed to see the hole

and yes i know ether price will rais again
Wink

i just trow this in the discution
it seems to me its not fair to everyone
its just saveing a loss for investors
but what about the early investors ?

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There is a chance to fix a mistake that has been made, thankfully there was a delay for the funds to be released.
Eth is still in its infancy the wallets are beta wallets so its effectively in beta stage still for a long while yet. Anything needing to be fixed should be, especially within this period, which has still many months to go.
If anyone is allowed to do what has been done and get away with it would be inconceivable madness and would show incredible weakness in etherium, and would be an absolute worse case outcome.

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 04:10:21 AM

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