[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 900.

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:49:56 AM

Quote from: ocminer on June 19, 2016, 03:47:41 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: bitboy11 on June 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

That still doesn't change anything on the situation

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Quote from: ocminer on June 19, 2016, 03:47:41 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: bitboy11 on June 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

well respected opinion

OC rocks

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Quote from: ocminer on June 19, 2016, 03:47:41 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: bitboy11 on June 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

You didn't understand the image... the new technique was not the blockchain... but the different call of the contract by the attacker...

ocminer

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: bitboy11 on June 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique.

Not the true story, true story:

A crew of people invest 150 Million into a new casino with all new technique, someone finds a flaw in the code and cheats out 50 Million of the casino...

What to do ? Of course roll back, fix the code, and "restart" the new technique casino...

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Quote from: corather on June 19, 2016, 03:44:16 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: bitboy11 on June 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

Thats more or less true with a soft fork, but a hard fork, is like going back in time an change the law.
Example:

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. The casino owner is bankruped and the stock is dropping by 50%. He and his stock owners decide to go back in time and change the casino rules, so that the one, that wins the 50 Million at this day doesn't have to be payed out. Fair?

But even the soft fork can be somehow discussable:
The winner won the 50 Million, that can only be payed out a month later. But the Casino owner closes the casino, and sets all escrow funds on hold.

In a casino, if you exploit to win, you're thrown out and blacklisted at every casino in town.

yea if you scam. but this was a legal move. It was implicitly written in their rules.
Something like "you roll the dice as you want". But now you come with a new throwing technique, that is legal...

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Quote from: lordoliver on June 19, 2016, 03:17:31 AM

Quote from: bitboy11 on June 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

Thats more or less true with a soft fork, but a hard fork, is like going back in time an change the law.
Example:

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. The casino owner is bankruped and the stock is dropping by 50%. He and his stock owners decide to go back in time and change the casino rules, so that the one, that wins the 50 Million at this day doesn't have to be payed out. Fair?

But even the soft fork can be somehow discussable:
The winner won the 50 Million, that can only be payed out a month later. But the Casino owner closes the casino, and sets all escrow funds on hold.

In a casino, if you exploit to win, you're thrown out and blacklisted at every casino in town.

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Quote from: bitboy11 on June 19, 2016, 02:41:08 AM

This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

Thats more or less true with a soft fork, but a hard fork, is like going back in time an change the law.
Example:

You go into the casino and win legally 50 Million with a new technique. The casino owner is bankruped and the stock is dropping by 50%. He and his stock owners decide to go back in time and change the casino rules, so that the one, that wins the 50 Million at this day doesn't have to be payed out. Fair?

But even the soft fork can be somehow discussable:
The winner won the 50 Million, that can only be payed out a month later. But the Casino owner closes the casino, and sets all escrow funds on hold.

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This seems pretty simple to me.
Decentralized crypto-currencies are all about consensus.
Vitalik suggested a hard fork rollback.
The majority seem to want it...that's consensus!

Now roll it back.

Note - I was not affected by this DAO/ETH situation.

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Quote from: TheStuhlman on June 19, 2016, 02:12:45 AM

Quote from: roselee on June 19, 2016, 02:00:22 AM

ok they fork it out but
what do we do with the next assh...? and be sure there will be a next.
there are lots of assh..... out there give them a chance to steel and they will

realy i ask you what do we do with the next ?

You do the same thing you did with this one and fork him out, Until all the assholes know they have nothing to gain from doing theft on the blockchain. The miners have the right to fork and protect their interest and the interest of their main provider. The miners enforcing a fix for a heist of such magnitude will do exactly what they are paid to do.

this guy is soo coool

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Quote from: roselee on June 19, 2016, 02:00:22 AM

ok they fork it out but
what do we do with the next assh...? and be sure there will be a next.
there are lots of assh..... out there give them a chance to steel and they will

realy i ask you what do we do with the next ?

You do the same thing you did with this one and fork him out, Until all the assholes know they have nothing to gain from doing theft on the blockchain. The miners have the right to fork and protect their interest and the interest of their main provider. The miners enforcing a fix for a heist of such magnitude will do exactly what they are paid to do.

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Quote from: roselee on June 19, 2016, 02:00:22 AM

ok they fork it out but
what do we do with the next assh...? and be sure there will be a next.
there are lots of assh..... out there give them a chance to steel and they will

realy i ask you what do we do with the next ?

burn eth for tokens

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ok they fork it out but
what do we do with the next assh...? and be sure there will be a next.
there are lots of assh..... out there give them a chance to steel and they will

realy i ask you what do we do with the next ?

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Quote from: Mrpumperitis on June 19, 2016, 01:14:59 AM

Quote from: TheStuhlman on June 19, 2016, 01:12:35 AM

The longer you keep running this charade the worse it gets, hardforks are weekly events in crypto lol just ask the exchange owners.

fork this asshole thief out of existence and move on, I can not believe they are debating this.

exactly

exactly +1

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Quote from: TheStuhlman on June 19, 2016, 01:12:35 AM

The longer you keep running this charade the worse it gets, hardforks are weekly events in crypto lol just ask the exchange owners.

fork this asshole thief out of existence and move on, I can not believe they are debating this.

exactly

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The longer you keep running this charade the worse it gets, hardforks are weekly events in crypto lol just ask the exchange owners.

fork this asshole thief out of existence and move on, I can not believe they are debating this.

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Quote from: roselee on June 18, 2016, 11:48:31 PM

Quote from: danandanderson on June 18, 2016, 08:48:16 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 18, 2016, 08:16:23 AM

Cmon guys negotiate with the attacker for 90% return. That will be a win for both...

90% return!?!? Are you jocking ? Nothing should be given to this fuck face. He made a damage of hunderds of milions. Eth yesterday 20$+ and today 13$ and falling, that is close to 500 milions lost in a day, not counting the DAO. All togehther probably a billion $. And if he returns everything the damage has been done. Who knows when and if it will be back to normal.
The guy/team that did this has to be identified and tracked down like an animal. And then punished....

Vitalik and company should make a hard fork. ETH and theDAO are great projects that can change history, but they have to be more carefull, after all this is not a game anymore, billions of $ are not to be played with.

vitalik is solving this now but isnt slockit the company that coded the dao?
or i am wrong ?

yes slockit coded it, but since they will not get a red cent for it, they will not fix it.

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Quote from: danandanderson on June 18, 2016, 08:48:16 AM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 18, 2016, 08:16:23 AM

Cmon guys negotiate with the attacker for 90% return. That will be a win for both...

90% return!?!? Are you jocking ? Nothing should be given to this fuck face. He made a damage of hunderds of milions. Eth yesterday 20$+ and today 13$ and falling, that is close to 500 milions lost in a day, not counting the DAO. All togehther probably a billion $. And if he returns everything the damage has been done. Who knows when and if it will be back to normal.
The guy/team that did this has to be identified and tracked down like an animal. And then punished....

Vitalik and company should make a hard fork. ETH and theDAO are great projects that can change history, but they have to be more carefull, after all this is not a game anymore, billions of $ are not to be played with.

vitalik is solving this now but isnt slockit the company that coded the dao?
or i am wrong ?

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Quote from: M28MmickT on June 18, 2016, 12:37:16 PM

Quote from: lordoliver on June 18, 2016, 12:01:58 PM

Quote from: M28MmickT on June 18, 2016, 11:25:33 AM

Let's make this clear, to the hacker:

Being decentralized means being in the power of people, not a directive board or in the code, you just stole 3.6 million ether but for nothing because you will not be able to withdraw you dumb, you can't take any legal action because people (51%) did not authorized your theft, and you said you will sue? LOL yes, sue us all 10k investors, you are speaking only fantasies. Cheesy

Then to slock it and ethereum team:

Ethereum should make a hard fork and return all ether to DAO holders, that was just a buggy code giving away money to a robber without a reason, the people behind this DAO (investors) never authorized that DAO split, otherwise I would think of an INSIDE job and I would call you all scammers, slock.it and Ethereum, and with more reason now that slock it is closing, if you don't make the roll back this will look like an scam by you.

you are the dumb. The attacker won already. because he has a 3k put on ethereum. And if we hard fork, ethers price will never recover...
I can just repeat myself. offer him the option to give 90% back.

What means your "3k put on ethereum" ?? you are more dumb than the attacker, those bugs should affect the price for sure as any other bug on technologies but thats all, your "eth price will never recover" is only your proofless especulation opinion, as any other on the speculation topic.

People don't make deals with thieves, he will get 0 ether.

90% back?, if someone gets into your hause and takes your 5 childs, you will say "hey just return me 4 of them"?? , you are very idiot.

It's not the same - he was taliking about 90%.
4 of 5 people is 80%.
So, big difference.

Cool

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lots of manips got margined out the game,lol

also obs its centralised,lol its still in development ffs

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Quote from: LBX on June 18, 2016, 08:29:46 PM

Quote from: Mrpumperitis on June 18, 2016, 08:16:46 PM

Quote from: Pizpie on June 18, 2016, 08:03:04 PM

There will be a lot of lessons learned from recent events, but there are still a lot of great projects being built with Ethereum in mind...
Plutus.it is making Ethereum and Bitcoin available as a form of payment at any merchant with NFC enabled payment terminals and recently did a live field test.

https://twitter.com/PlutusIT/status/743875623375015936

+1
ETH lives on 4evaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

It's funny
That there are people that this project will break btc and become number one hhhh
There are projects much better than this project
Team scam + trading scam
Currency only pumped bring people and the buyer and then dump hard Angry

It's funny.....soo many newbie pro's lol Cheesy

man if u dealt with crave and ICM,this wont faze me or many like me...the fud was wow coz it was a lot of shit with backing of 0 businesses and corps u will know why Vitalik and ETH are a gd send lol they have actual real contact with the real businesses and Corps

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