Author

Topic: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - 1st Stable fork of Ethereum (New Algo + PirlGuard) - page 244. (Read 961474 times)

legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
cryptocollectorsclub.com
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

I know for a fact that pharesim and cbkr are amongst the most trustful people within the crypto scene, and with the best intentions. What you are saying makes no sense.

At this point you are even dragging Pharesim and Cbkr's names into the mud for no reason. Maybe you can't understand that, but think about it. You really can't see why your own community threw you out? Is it maybe just possible that you are the problem and not everyone else? I know you can't see it, but your being anonymous and unhinged at times is why almost nobody trusts you or wants you around. That is also why SHF did so poorly, your lack of transparency. Nobody trusts anon devs. They have tricked us all too many times.



No you drag them into the mud by telling their stories about their disagreement with your opinions on how to run things, which is obviously not ethic. The community of SHF want a person that has no leave for being sick, it is that simple. Talking about trust, i can tell you a thing or two about the pump teams behind you and your former currencys, if you want to? Dont lie to the EXP community by shitting on SHIFT and your goals with your 11 million in premine, just dont and i will leave this thread. You are aware of the people that are behind the pump of EXP, and you say nothing. You also lied about EXP developed more than SHF.

You mean Blocknet and such? Guess what? I wasn't on the team, wasn't paid a satoshi, and I hardly traded it. I wanted to join Supernet, all public knowledge genius, and that was another problem I had. They came up with Blocknet without even asking me if it was a good idea, Xander was also not asked and that is why he quit HZ at once, I stuck around feeling betrayed a bit. Feel free to talk about it all you want, I was never a part of Blocknet or XC. I spent more time promoting Darkcoin actually, and I wasn't a part of them either.  You are clueless.
hero member
Activity: 483
Merit: 510
The Shift Team
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

I know for a fact that pharesim and cbkr are amongst the most trustful people within the crypto scene, and with the best intentions. What you are saying makes no sense.

At this point you are even dragging Pharesim and Cbkr's names into the mud for no reason. Maybe you can't understand that, but think about it. You really can't see why your own community threw you out? Is it maybe just possible that you are the problem and not everyone else? I know you can't see it, but your being anonymous and unhinged at times is why almost nobody trusts you or wants you around. That is also why SHF did so poorly, your lack of transparency. Nobody trusts anon devs. They have tricked us all too many times.



No you drag them into the mud by telling their stories about their disagreement with your opinions on how to run things, which is obviously not ethic. The community of SHF want a person that has no leave for being sick, it is that simple. Talking about trust, i can tell you a thing or two about the pump teams behind you and your former currencys, if you want to? Dont lie to the EXP community by shitting on SHIFT and your goals with your 11 million in premine, just dont and i will leave this thread. You are aware of the people that are behind the pump of EXP, and you say nothing. You also lied about EXP developed more than SHF.
full member
Activity: 181
Merit: 100
looks like old coins are history. i hope exp and eth will bring us joy and some profits Cheesy

http://cryptoafterdark.com

Franko was on a radio show yesterday talking about EXP. They should have it uploaded soon. More news will be coming and we will keep up the pace. Thanks!

Smiley

Good to hear everything is going well. Keep it up EXP dev team.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
cryptocollectorsclub.com
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

No,
 you left HZ because i didnt make you money.
Frank left FRK for same reason.

Now you got some hype over FB group - people saw how its going sold all coins.
You got them (yeah, went risky vabanque) and self-bought to keep 5000% raise in order to get new people in.


I know you can censor your groups and such but this is how EXP is rolled.

No you are incorrect. Expanse is an opportunity and it is still up quite a bit from a few days ago. People that have been around are very happy and doing well, others are jealous because they were not wise enough to buy in earlier. I can't stop people from buying at the top, and that is not my job. I have been promoting EXP to people in terms of mining mostly, as that is a way that people can get EXP without risking trading. 9 times out of 10, I suggest mining it. Even though that means I get less mining, I care more about growing the project. You are just thinking of how you would do it because that is how you are.

legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
cryptocollectorsclub.com
looks like old coins are history. i hope exp and eth will bring us joy and some profits Cheesy

http://cryptoafterdark.com

Franko was on a radio show yesterday talking about EXP. They should have it uploaded soon. More news will be coming and we will keep up the pace. Thanks!

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
cryptocollectorsclub.com
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

I know for a fact that pharesim and cbkr are amongst the most trustful people within the crypto scene, and with the best intentions. What you are saying makes no sense.

At this point you are even dragging Pharesim and Cbkr's names into the mud for no reason. Maybe you can't understand that, but think about it. You really can't see why your own community threw you out? Is it maybe just possible that you are the problem and not everyone else? I know you can't see it, but your being anonymous and unhinged at times is why almost nobody trusts you or wants you around. That is also why SHF did so poorly, your lack of transparency. Nobody trusts anon devs. They have tricked us all too many times.

legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1004



I thought the SHF dev was dead also... It's nice to see he is back. I own some SHF and hope the dev can make SHF more popular.


hero member
Activity: 483
Merit: 510
The Shift Team
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

I know for a fact that pharesim and cbkr are amongst the most trustful people within the crypto scene, and with the best intentions. What you are saying makes no sense.
sr. member
Activity: 642
Merit: 250
looks like old coins are history. i hope exp and eth will bring us joy and some profits Cheesy
full member
Activity: 406
Merit: 100
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

No,
 you left HZ because i didnt make you money.
Frank left FRK for same reason.

Now you got some hype over FB group - people saw how its going sold all coins.
You got them (yeah, went risky vabanque) and self-bought to keep 5000% raise in order to get new people in.


I know you can censor your groups and such but this is how EXP is rolled.

exp will not be rolled out until today
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000
the grandpa of cryptos
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.

No,
 you left HZ because i didnt make you money.
Frank left FRK for same reason.

Now you got some hype over FB group - people saw how its going sold all coins.
You got them (yeah, went risky vabanque) and self-bought to keep 5000% raise in order to get new people in.


I know you can censor your groups and such but this is how EXP is rolled.
sr. member
Activity: 349
Merit: 250
Added two new pools to the OP

http://pooleum.com/

and

http://dwarfpool.com/exp

As a promotion we will be giving out a 10% bonus to large new miners who join pooleum http://pooleum.com/ for 1 week. PM me your address and approximate mh if you want to take advantage.



That sounds great. Also sounds like your pool is safe, I wasn't sure who was behind it. (I will mention that to others)

Thanks for the vouch. We do need more miners to keep it sustainable. Please spread the word. If anyone needs any help getting started feel free to PM me.

http://pooleum.com/
hero member
Activity: 752
Merit: 500
Bcnex - The Ultimate Blockchain Trading Platform
At the end of the day m8 expanse is getting tons of volume, doing interviews on radio shows and vlogs while the SHT dev is so butthurt he has to come in here all half cocked, suicidal and on the verge of turning into a fucking super villain.

Expanse keep being expanse because its working. SHT, turn your life around before you have an aneurysm.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Franko is Freedom
Cant we all just get along? Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
cryptocollectorsclub.com
I left Horizon after helping for a year because I wanted more transparency. We had fundamental disagreements. Easy enough to check the Horizon community where I suggested all the transparency measures to the community, but my suggestions were not followed, so eventually I quit. I didn't FUD them on the way out and wish them the best, but I have a very different vision.

Shiftdev if you want to be respected, at least show your real Bitcointalk ID. You really think this is going to help your project? You know, you could have just contacted us like an adult. I really thought your project was dead and abandoned for good, or I would not have mentioned it. I don't spread FUD.
hero member
Activity: 483
Merit: 510
The Shift Team
Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

You might not understand that without funding the design for the DAO here cannot work. This can work with much less than Ethererum, but not with nothing. If you are interested you can check out the white paper: Now, I also think some percentage from mining could have been an option, but this project has been around for many months now and has been progressing fine, with no issues from the funding hurting the market. Of the reserve only 200k has been used to pay for bounties and development. (250k was used for another Eth fork, and they did much less so far)

Smart contacts and time locks will ensure slow inflation and distribution over time. (in the simplest terms only 1% could be used per month, leaving *some* funding essentially forever, but also keeping inflation slow without needing an ICO)

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/whitepaper-draft.pdf

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

http://blog.expanse.tech

Since you mention SHIFT and the 250K premine, people should know which pumpers and dumpers who are behind EXP. I know, because i have talked with several people who are in HZ team, both former and present members. So stop with the bullshit. You all know this, you all know about the pump. The same as happened with HZ a while ago. The same people were behind this pump in EXP. I can give the people in here much more information about this, but you do not want to go there.

The 250K was used up because of the valuation.. 200K in your funds are MUCH more than it was in SHIFT. So make your numbers straight.

Second, what have you done that is "much more" in terms of development? I see nothing, except a homepage, block explorer and your non existing dapp that will act as a DAO...

A dapp is nothing new you know. Its ethereum at its core. Bragging about that in your whitepaper is just retarded. SHIFT had the first gui wallet with the first sql backend.. what have you done?

You are an anonymous dev that quit SHF and came back to it because Expanse was so successful. You launched without even changing the tags from ETH, we announced first, you rushed to get it out first, obviously. I never even mentioned that to anyone until you quit and vanished. You cuss out your community, you come here and insult us for no reason? Funny thing, people were wondering if we should help out SHF, I said no because I don't trust anonymous devs. They are unreliable, flaky, and unstable.

As for you knowing things, how about your real identify if you are not a scammer? My identity and finances are public. I am not some whale. Dan and Franko sure are not. We don't brag about how we are middle class all the time, but we are. Only 200k was ever moved from the reserve, we had nothing to do with millions of USD going into EXP. Likely ETH whales. Even if you think we were behind it, impossible in every way, don't you think we would have waited unless the press release comes out? Think about it.

Tags? You mean class/data structure names? EXP had to contact several ethereum developers for getting it up and running. You launched with the old ETH gziped base64 encoded string as the genesis. That is even more embarrasing.

Oh, the same people that later joined HZ is a part of EXP and XC. They pumped and dumped HZ and XC. You know this. EXP is backed by these, i dont know if thats good or not. You still did not answer the question in terms of the development you have.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
cryptocollectorsclub.com
Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

You might not understand that without funding the design for the DAO here cannot work. This can work with much less than Ethererum, but not with nothing. If you are interested you can check out the white paper: Now, I also think some percentage from mining could have been an option, but this project has been around for many months now and has been progressing fine, with no issues from the funding hurting the market. Of the reserve only 200k has been used to pay for bounties and development. (250k was used for another Eth fork, and they did much less so far)

Smart contacts and time locks will ensure slow inflation and distribution over time. (in the simplest terms only 1% could be used per month, leaving *some* funding essentially forever, but also keeping inflation slow without needing an ICO)

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/whitepaper-draft.pdf

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

http://blog.expanse.tech

Since you mention SHIFT and the 250K premine, people should know which pumpers and dumpers who are behind EXP. I know, because i have talked with several people who are in HZ team, both former and present members. So stop with the bullshit. You all know this, you all know about the pump. The same as happened with HZ a while ago. The same people were behind this pump in EXP. I can give the people in here much more information about this, but you do not want to go there.

The 250K was used up because of the valuation.. 200K in your funds are MUCH more than it was in SHIFT. So make your numbers straight.

Second, what have you done that is "much more" in terms of development? I see nothing, except a homepage, block explorer and your non existing dapp that will act as a DAO...

A dapp is nothing new you know. Its ethereum at its core. Bragging about that in your whitepaper is just retarded. SHIFT had the first gui wallet with the first sql backend.. what have you done?

You are an anonymous dev that quit SHF and came back to it because Expanse was so successful. You launched without even changing the tags from ETH, we announced first, you rushed to get it out first, obviously. I never even mentioned that to anyone until you quit and vanished. You cuss out your community, you come here and insult us for no reason? Funny thing, people were wondering if we should help out SHF, I said no because I don't trust anonymous devs. They are unreliable, flaky, and unstable.

As for you knowing things, how about your real identify if you are not a scammer? My identity and finances are public. I am not some whale. Dan and Franko sure are not. We don't brag about how we are middle class all the time, but we are. Only 200k was ever moved from the reserve, we had nothing to do with millions of USD going into EXP. Likely ETH whales. Even if you think we were behind it, impossible in every way, don't you think we would have waited unless the press release comes out? Think about it.
hero member
Activity: 483
Merit: 510
The Shift Team
Ugh.  Guys, I spent way too much time reading your stuff, fancy presentation, and everything else.  
  
I almost got excited, and then I finally figured out there was essentially a 10% premine.  Come on, why do people insist on doing this!?  Yes, I know you are vowing to use it for development costs.  It still doesn't excuse it.

You might not understand that without funding the design for the DAO here cannot work. This can work with much less than Ethererum, but not with nothing. If you are interested you can check out the white paper: Now, I also think some percentage from mining could have been an option, but this project has been around for many months now and has been progressing fine, with no issues from the funding hurting the market. Of the reserve only 200k has been used to pay for bounties and development. (250k was used for another Eth fork, and they did much less so far)

Smart contacts and time locks will ensure slow inflation and distribution over time. (in the simplest terms only 1% could be used per month, leaving *some* funding essentially forever, but also keeping inflation slow without needing an ICO)

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/whitepaper-draft.pdf

http://www.expanse.tech/docs/roadmap.pdf

http://blog.expanse.tech

Since you mention SHIFT and the 250K premine, people should know which pumpers and dumpers who are behind EXP. I know, because i have talked with several people who are in HZ team, both former and present members. So stop with the bullshit. You all know this, you all know about the pump. The same as happened with HZ a while ago. The same people were behind this pump in EXP. I can give the people in here much more information about this, but you do not want to go there.

The 250K was used up because of the valuation.. 200K in your funds are MUCH more than it was in SHIFT. So make your numbers straight.

Second, what have you done that is "much more" in terms of development? I see nothing, except a homepage, block explorer and your non existing dapp that will act as a DAO...

A dapp is nothing new you know. Its ethereum at its core. Bragging about that in your whitepaper is just retarded. SHIFT had the first gui wallet with the first sql backend.. what have you done?
legendary
Activity: 3220
Merit: 1363
www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
I have a more serous question about this project. As far as I understand it the only real innovation is the community DAO, which by itself is not really that innovative at all, there are other projects that have already done this.

However as far as I understand it, this is being presented as an alternative to Ethereum. I do not see what is wrong with Ethereum however since its launch was fair. Ethereum still requires a lot of development work, and I do not see how this project will be able to overtake the network effect and development that Ethereum has. I am even wondering if Expanse will be able to keep up with updating when Ethereum is updated and changed.

Furthermore I do not think that the governance of Ethereum is necessarily flawed. If you really wanted to tackle that problem there should have been a allotment in the block reward that allocates a certain percentage to Expanse funding which would then have to be voted upon by some process. Dash and Bitshares are both examples of such a process. Having a singular pre-mine like this which is supposedly decided upon by the community, with such a small group of founders, and small community I do not necessarily see that working out well.

I do not see any type of great innovation or need that this project is filling, besides maybe peoples greed wanting to jump onto the "next Ethereum" as Ethereum is currently going parabolic.

So yes I am here critiquing this cryptocurrency. Please correct me if I am wrong with a convincing argument and I might even invest myself. Wink

This will be personal opinion, and just from myself, but I am not a fan of ICOs and I have never liked them. Having an ICO and a premine feels like double dipping to me, taking as much as possible. if you prefer them then we just disagree a bit, but this is a huge difference. I also think mining is a better means of distribution, more fair, since there are more people with video cards than who can afford buying into an ICO. I also think using a reserve to bring in new talent, rather than raising outside money gives the platform and community more freedom and less outside control.

We have over 200 people in slack, I have over 5000 in the crypto club, and we have around 30k followers on social media total (the team). That is still small of course, but very focused on cryptos, so we do have a small group of loyal people. We also have connections to marketing people and plenty of plans. Certainly there are risks, but we started with nothing and plan on building something amazing out of it. I don't think anyone should get involved unless they want to, but for anyone that likes ETH, it likely wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on EXP as well.

Well said. I think that we should give EXP more time to grow in development as it will surely prove as a better alternative to ETH someday. It is just about time and patience to achieve great results. Being a clone of ETH and considering its price, makes it great choice with all the same features (and maybe even more) as it. It is like paying less for using the same features. In this case it is Expanse and I hope it could come up with new and exciting things as days go by.

Prices have started to decline for EXP, but still makes it a great investment for the next pump. Enjoy the ride!  Grin

P.S. Looking forward for Borderless.tech to become a reality.
sr. member
Activity: 304
Merit: 250
A live broadcast with the Expanse dev, will occur in 30 minutes on rickstonerlive.com cryptoafterdark.com and... of course vergecurrency.com/radio
Jump to: