means nothing, its not manipulation its a sideways market, people are trading. Thats what traders do LOL play support/resistance. Especially with how slow these exchanges are compared to something like Globex, its super easy
The market will break out, just no volume at the moment. Volume moves a market
Topic: [ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Proof Of Transaction Cash Back for Sending & Recieving - page 123. (Read 368065 times)
April 28, 2014, 10:35:31 AM
April 28, 2014, 10:22:52 AM
What does that mean? In terms of direction?
April 28, 2014, 10:19:19 AM
April 28, 2014, 10:00:52 AM
Pure manipulation on FLT at mintpal now.
April 28, 2014, 09:44:28 AM
Finaly,first working multi curency wallet- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584676.new#new
Supported Currencies:
Bitcoin - BTC
Namecoin - NMC
Litecoin - LTC
NovaCoin - NVC
PPCoin - PPC
DevCoin - DVC
DogeCoin - DOGE
EarthCoin - EAC
iXcoin - IXC
PrimeCoin - XPM
ProtoShares - PTS
TerraCoin - TRC
FlutterCoin - FLT
BlackCoin - BC
WhiteCoin - WC
AuroraCoin - AUR
CinniCoin - CINNI
Heavycoin - HVC
Potcoin - POT
Unobtanium - UNO
UltraCoin - UTC
Zetacoin - ZET
Faircoin - FAC
CaiShen - CAI
Unitary Status Dollar eCoin - USDe
SUNcoin - SUN
Supported Currencies:
Bitcoin - BTC
Namecoin - NMC
Litecoin - LTC
NovaCoin - NVC
PPCoin - PPC
DevCoin - DVC
DogeCoin - DOGE
EarthCoin - EAC
iXcoin - IXC
PrimeCoin - XPM
ProtoShares - PTS
TerraCoin - TRC
FlutterCoin - FLT
BlackCoin - BC
WhiteCoin - WC
AuroraCoin - AUR
CinniCoin - CINNI
Heavycoin - HVC
Potcoin - POT
Unobtanium - UNO
UltraCoin - UTC
Zetacoin - ZET
Faircoin - FAC
CaiShen - CAI
Unitary Status Dollar eCoin - USDe
SUNcoin - SUN
April 28, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
rigs get super quiet to mine this coin!
April 28, 2014, 09:12:34 AM
I am getting my investment tips from this forum 
April 28, 2014, 09:11:13 AM
Old pattern all over again ... 1500 - 1200 ... 1500 - 1200 ...
There are two ways to gain the loss from buying @ 2400 ... one is wait forever and "hope" it will rise again and if then sell.
The other is, buy @ 1500 ... sell @ 1200 ... repeat this 4 times and then bail out without a loss.
There are two ways to gain the loss from buying @ 2400 ... one is wait forever and "hope" it will rise again and if then sell.
The other is, buy @ 1500 ... sell @ 1200 ... repeat this 4 times and then bail out without a loss.
So you mean to tell me I'll get rich by buying high, selling low?
Made me lol as well
April 28, 2014, 09:08:40 AM
Old pattern all over again ... 1500 - 1200 ... 1500 - 1200 ...
There are two ways to gain the loss from buying @ 2400 ... one is wait forever and "hope" it will rise again and if then sell.
The other is, buy @ 1500 ... sell @ 1200 ... repeat this 4 times and then bail out without a loss.
There are two ways to gain the loss from buying @ 2400 ... one is wait forever and "hope" it will rise again and if then sell.
The other is, buy @ 1500 ... sell @ 1200 ... repeat this 4 times and then bail out without a loss.
So you mean to tell me I'll get rich by buying high, selling low?
April 28, 2014, 08:56:04 AM
Curious to see how much people got paid from the flutterpool, anyone care to share there payouts
82 fluttercoins for 3.2 Mh/s for 24 hours
very disappointed
Check your mail (if you are an official beta-tester), this is not the whole pay-out. More to come
https://twitter.com/IcarusGlider/status/460743197069938688 < The reason for the delay. Craptsy again.
Do they have 2FA enabled? LOL maybe they need to enter the withdrawal code? Can't be that easy though
April 28, 2014, 08:21:46 AM
Curious to see how much people got paid from the flutterpool, anyone care to share there payouts
82 fluttercoins for 3.2 Mh/s for 24 hours
very disappointed
Beta...
82 FLT for 3.2 Mh/s is not disappointed , disappointed is low sell price of 1 FLT- 0.00001400,so much undervaluated ,correction to 0.00010000 for 1 FLT need ASAP!!!
Remove all your sell orders before 0.00010000 for 1 FLT you dumbs!
These is my first sell order from many 2014-04-20 06:24:20 0.00009142 Sell 2000.00000000 2000.00000000 0.18284000
April 28, 2014, 08:10:44 AM
Understand these rules:
PoT is not meant to curb hoarding or saving
PoT is not meant to encourage spending
PoT is meant to reward randomly for send OR receiving (the receiver can also receive a PoT reward it seems this is never talked about though)
PoT can't be tied to coin age - wouldn't remotely be able to work
PoT at the moment is not tied to PoS
Making it easier leads to easy of manipulation (though that becomes harder as well as you will need to be first in), but, I am toying with some ideas, though nothing will change short-term as to not upset things. Keep tossing out ideas, its all fuel to my creative fire LOL.
PoT is not meant to curb hoarding or saving
PoT is not meant to encourage spending
PoT is meant to reward randomly for send OR receiving (the receiver can also receive a PoT reward it seems this is never talked about though)
PoT can't be tied to coin age - wouldn't remotely be able to work
PoT at the moment is not tied to PoS
Making it easier leads to easy of manipulation (though that becomes harder as well as you will need to be first in), but, I am toying with some ideas, though nothing will change short-term as to not upset things. Keep tossing out ideas, its all fuel to my creative fire LOL.
April 28, 2014, 08:01:13 AM
I got one PoT reward in March, and that's all. It's very hard to get PoT, you should be extremely lucky. This is the reason I don't understand why some people praise it so much. Yes, theoretically it's great, yes, it's a new feature (and I like innovations), and yes, you might catch this PoT... some day, somewhere, somehow... but in general for me personally it's almost non-existent and unimportant.
As of now I'd give more praise to PoS than to PoT because PoS can bring you a real profit while PoT is just a lottery with a small prize, and this prize will get lower and lower with block reward halving because PoS gives you 50% of the current PoW block reward. Let's say, If you could possibly win a $10 prize once a year would it really matter to you?
As of now I'd give more praise to PoS than to PoT because PoS can bring you a real profit while PoT is just a lottery with a small prize, and this prize will get lower and lower with block reward halving because PoS gives you 50% of the current PoW block reward. Let's say, If you could possibly win a $10 prize once a year would it really matter to you?
I'd like to see PoT given some kind of sliding scale so that every transaction can pay back a tiny amount (even if it's just barely a few satoshis or fluttaishis or whatever) or you can elect to notch it up to larger payouts that are more and more random. That way if you want to take chances for fun, sure go for it and set it to 2500 FLT at max odds, or set it to 1 FLT at guaranteed odds - in both cases the minimum Xfer to qualify should be appropriate as well, i.e. the 1 FLT payout requires 100 FLT transfer. I realize that PoT is basically a kind of one-transaction-at-a-time iterative mining process so the randomness of PoT rewards is derived from the natural randomness of mining a block. Given this, a PoT peer to peer reward pool might need to exist to take large PoT rewards and pool them into payout streams in order to make PoT 'feel' more like a reward system and less like a lottery for those who aren't really into the chance reward concept (which I suspect is most people).
How about we change the rewards of PoT and base it off of coin age. When you spend your money, the rewards are based off your coin age which sort of works well with PoS. If I have 1 or 2 days left but I want to spend fluttercoin, I'm encouraged not to spend because I don't want that to reset.
But this way, I can spend the FLT and not have to waste the 28 days of staking. You just have to set the interest rate below PoS if you want to encourage saving money, or above if you want to encourage spending. You would need to set a minimum coin age for security. I personally think it should be lower then PoS to encourage saving, maybe have it at 1% or 1.5% whatever is popular with cashback credit cards should be fine.
The only problem with this idea is someone could generate x amount of wallets to send out transactions which create blocks and control the block chain. This introduces a security threat, if there's some way to guarantee this can't happen we could move forward with this idea.
I mean for this to be successful, the attacker would need to control the PoW and PoS during this attack to guarantee that he is the only one generating blocks. The network in it's current form is not strong enough to implement my suggested changes.
April 28, 2014, 07:12:50 AM
I got one PoT reward in March, and that's all. It's very hard to get PoT, you should be extremely lucky. This is the reason I don't understand why some people praise it so much. Yes, theoretically it's great, yes, it's a new feature (and I like innovations), and yes, you might catch this PoT... some day, somewhere, somehow... but in general for me personally it's almost non-existent and unimportant.
As of now I'd give more praise to PoS than to PoT because PoS can bring you a real profit while PoT is just a lottery with a small prize, and this prize will get lower and lower with block reward halving because PoS gives you 50% of the current PoW block reward. Let's say, If you could possibly win a $10 prize once a year would it really matter to you?
As of now I'd give more praise to PoS than to PoT because PoS can bring you a real profit while PoT is just a lottery with a small prize, and this prize will get lower and lower with block reward halving because PoS gives you 50% of the current PoW block reward. Let's say, If you could possibly win a $10 prize once a year would it really matter to you?
I'd like to see PoT given some kind of sliding scale so that every transaction can pay back a tiny amount (even if it's just barely a few satoshis or fluttaishis or whatever) or you can elect to notch it up to larger payouts that are more and more random. That way if you want to take chances for fun, sure go for it and set it to 2500 FLT at max odds, or set it to 1 FLT at guaranteed odds - in both cases the minimum Xfer to qualify should be appropriate as well, i.e. the 1 FLT payout requires 100 FLT transfer. I realize that PoT is basically a kind of one-transaction-at-a-time iterative mining process so the randomness of PoT rewards is derived from the natural randomness of mining a block. Given this, a PoT peer to peer reward pool might need to exist to take large PoT rewards and pool them into payout streams in order to make PoT 'feel' more like a reward system and less like a lottery for those who aren't really into the chance reward concept (which I suspect is most people).
April 28, 2014, 06:49:40 AM
Curious to see how much people got paid from the flutterpool, anyone care to share there payouts
82 fluttercoins for 3.2 Mh/s for 24 hours
very disappointed
Check your mail (if you are an official beta-tester), this is not the whole pay-out. More to come
https://twitter.com/IcarusGlider/status/460743197069938688 < The reason for the delay. Craptsy again.
April 28, 2014, 06:04:49 AM
Curious to see how much people got paid from the flutterpool, anyone care to share there payouts
82 fluttercoins for 3.2 Mh/s for 24 hours
very disappointed
82 FLT for 3.2 Mh/s is not disappointed , disappointed is low sell price of 1 FLT- 0.00001400,so much undervaluated ,correction to 0.00010000 for 1 FLT need ASAP!!!
Remove all your sell orders before 0.00010000 for 1 FLT you dumbs!
These is my first sell order from many 2014-04-20 06:24:20 0.00009142 Sell 2000.00000000 2000.00000000 0.18284000
April 28, 2014, 05:50:36 AM
Curious to see how much people got paid from the flutterpool, anyone care to share there payouts
82 fluttercoins for 3.2 Mh/s for 24 hours
very disappointed
April 28, 2014, 05:13:01 AM
I got one PoT reward in March, and that's all. It's very hard to get PoT, you should be extremely lucky. This is the reason I don't understand why some people praise it so much. Yes, theoretically it's great, yes, it's a new feature (and I like innovations), and yes, you might catch this PoT... some day, somewhere, somehow... but in general for me personally it's almost non-existent and unimportant.
As of now I'd give more praise to PoS than to PoT because PoS can bring you a real profit while PoT is just a lottery with a small prize, and this prize will get lower and lower with block reward halving because PoS gives you 50% of the current PoW block reward. Let's say, If you could possibly win a $10 prize once a year would it really matter to you?
As of now I'd give more praise to PoS than to PoT because PoS can bring you a real profit while PoT is just a lottery with a small prize, and this prize will get lower and lower with block reward halving because PoS gives you 50% of the current PoW block reward. Let's say, If you could possibly win a $10 prize once a year would it really matter to you?
April 28, 2014, 04:52:55 AM
Has anyone received a proof of transaction block reward yet? I've sent about 40 transactions between wallets and between exchanges and back again, all above 500 FLT, and no sign of a transaction reward yet. I wonder what the average # of times it takes is to get one (I know its random but it must work out to some average over a large amount of tests), and if it is some big number like 1000+, will anyone be that excited about this? It's a good idea but if you can't see evidence of it, it feels like it's easier to just stake or mine and get something you can see really happening.
If its that easy to mine using PoT , there will be bot send coins back and forth 24/7
Bot exploiting Pot. I l like that
Thinking of it, fee must be high to counter Pot miners. It s another way to secure the network, but i can t see it being profitable.
April 28, 2014, 04:48:34 AM
Has anyone received a proof of transaction block reward yet? I've sent about 40 transactions between wallets and between exchanges and back again, all above 500 FLT, and no sign of a transaction reward yet. I wonder what the average # of times it takes is to get one (I know its random but it must work out to some average over a large amount of tests), and if it is some big number like 1000+, will anyone be that excited about this? It's a good idea but if you can't see evidence of it, it feels like it's easier to just stake or mine and get something you can see really happening.
If its that easy to mine using PoT , there will be bot send coins back and forth 24/7
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