Topic: [ANN] ⚡ HEALTH MONITOR⚡ | Soft cap reached - ICO ending today | 1200 tokens left - page 81. (Read 39344 times)

Hi guys. I saw on your website that you have a mobile application, but I do not quite understand what it's for. Is it just for displaying results or something else?

Yes! Prove me wrong answer - Do you do illness diagnostics with health monitor?


Please be so kind and link it in here - your announce is made of pictures and it's kinda pain to dig through it. Also you did not provided the name of the article. If you referring to the 2 page article from 2014 written by some Russians, don't bother linking it - it contains no information I ask for. I'm asking about testing of your ACTUAL DEVICE.

Are you comparing Health Monitor with some kind of bauble which can not bring any benefit when used?
So it definitely wrong, just go a little bit deeper in article about it (you can find it in first message of thread). You can find there the results of medical trials that corresponds to the measurements with glucometer. And also it would be impossible to receive patent for such a device if it wouldn't provide meaningful result.

Of course Health monitor will ask you before testing whether you had a meal before the test and how long ago. If you don't know it, it is better not to conduct test.

Your result will be compared with result for healthy person. For example, blood sugar level for person without diabetes: 3.9–5.5 mmol/L is normal for fasting and 7.1 - 8.3 mmol/L is normal for 2 hours after meals.
And according to this comparison you'll recive information about your blood sugar level, diabets or gastric ulcer. For most of people this result will be really meaningful and iif you really have prediabetes, you wouldn't mind to make another result with blood sampling.

Basically you telling me that if I go and conduct 10 tests within same day all of the results will be different (dependent on when and what I ate, drank, smoke etc). Some of them may indicate that I'm ill, some may say I'm healthy.

Imagine this - I'm in airport between flights, saw your device and decide to use it. I can't just insert 5$, spend a minute to get fast and meaningful result. Instead I need to read your instruction, educate myself, prepare for test, conduct test and after that STILL receive inconclusive result that suggest me to visit a doctor, who won't even accept that test results as medical test, because device is not certified and I will again have to go through similar testing.

Great! Would use it.

Any device, it is even necessary to use the thermometer correctly. Really, the composition of the exhaled air depends on food, drink, smoking. And it needs to be considered that indications of Health Monitor were reliable. It will be considered also the instruction on correct passing of the procedure will be available to everyone.

I'm not aggressive at all. I'm asking uncomfortable questions - yes, but I'm nowhere near aggressive. All I did asked was error margin of the device, how accurate it's results can be interpreted by the user. I'm trying to see value in this device for end user, but for now I fail.
I see lots of comparison with glucometer here but it's different. Healthy people rarely buys glucometer since it's needed to monitor preexisted condition, rather then diagnose. This one is opposite - it's going to be marketed to crowds in public places, where most of users expected to be healthy, therefore results of those tests should become initial basis for decision making. What reasoning will drive customer's intention to spend 5$ for a test? Perfectly healthy individual won't go near this device because they feel fine.

Those who concerned will actually try it, but will be greeted with sign saying "This is not medically certified device, we don't take any responsibility for what conclusions you draw from that." So this device won't give you much more than illusion of being informed, and you will practically give it 5$ just to receive paper that says what you already know - "go visit professional, you got some shit in your lungs - it could be anything or nothing".

So what is the market value of this device and service? What is customer value?

Btw, I'm not even saying this is bad idea - but imagine how different it would sound if there was at least some certainty after use. For example if it was like that:

"Acetone in breath is an anomaly that only appears in organism of people who have one of the following diseases A,B,C,D. We promote a device that can within 0,002% error margin detect acetone in your breath. If you have some we will strongly advice you to seek medical attention, because even though we can't diagnose your condition we can say beyond reasonable doubt - something is not right".

However Acetone in breath can occur in healthy people as well as in breath of sick people. It's concentration heavily dependent on person's mass, ration et.c. meaning that same concentration in breath of different people can (and should) draw different conclusions for them. Yes it is marker but it's just one marker and having this marker is nowhere near enough to take vast responsibility to visit a doctor. I would see this on shelves like glucometer, or installed in pharmacies or clinics, where targeted people need to check special marker without paying too much, but aiming at crowded places is really bad idea.

This is of course my opinion.

It' true. But every new technology had a high price at the beginning. Lamps, cars, computers etc.

Yes, after he receives a medical certificate.