Topic: [ANN] INTENSE COIN - Blockchain backed decentralized VPN - Hybrid PoW - page 77. (Read 235824 times)

Not in China and similar countries you won't. Any known VPN providers end up in the Great Firewall. That's the point here, it's almost impossible to block a decentralized VPN service without blocking every IP address in the world.

Except it's all fake, there's no real mining on the phones with ETN, it's "virtual", no actual coins are mined. That was the point of comparison, that ETN is all about marketing, and that's why they succeed.

Because it's an extra step to go to a shitty exchange and convert your BTC to ITNS? That step should be justified somehow. The quality of VPN service through ITNS is likely to be lower than the established commercial services with guaranteed bandwidth and availability. If I want high speed VPN I'll pay to a trusted provider with BTC. If I'm focused on anonymity and don't care about speed I'll just use Tor for free. I'm not saying there's no place for ITNS-based VPN on the market, it's just that market is already pretty crowded and fitting in there is no easy task.

This community ever told several times about the problem of exchange.

"The importance of the market"
Good product but bad market = Difficult trading so far no trading = No way to succeed.


Anyway, I'm very glad to hear this good news.

me too

You are right, you do not mention price in your comments. So what are your intentions and what do you fear about? Here they are:


And now my message for the developers - yes, I am the person who would like you to focused primarily on the development to deliver an excellent product.

I wish you would not do that. I like the brand. Lots of people do. Can you take a poll?

Are you aware of how many startups fail because they have stupid f*cking names?

You've already got a winning brand, just need to concentrate on the code imo.

EDIT: lol, "controlled organization" is the antithesis of crypto.  What we're looking for is a fast (unlike Tor) yet cheap and truly anonymous VPN. It must be decentralized and autonomous, so that all your "confidential data" is not put into the hands of any supposedly trustworthy human beings.  

thank you for that ..

I comparing ETN to ITNS is really not a comparison at all. https://youtu.be/Zo3r2OHzm8g <--- Is a video explaining how ETN is different from other cryptos. To summarize the video: people use their phone to mine ETN and then eventually, because people have this currency, will want to start exchanging it for stuff. Since they have this virtual currency that they can exchange for cash, they will want to start making a market for goods/services. Ultimately, ETN wants the user to find value in the project because they can mine it with their phone and exchange it for a product. This actually makes it the same as BTC (minus mining it on your phone because it's really not possible to mine anything of value). BTC already has a market for goods and services. People are already exchanging it.

 I'm not sure how that translates to ITNS, which has a specific purpose and will be exchanged not just for FIAT but also used to purchase VPN services. Why is this important/why would someone want to use ITNS instead of BTC to purchase a VPN? ITNS creates a more diverse market than what is currently available. More competition creates a better market for the consumer that wants to purchase a VPN service. So, instead of paying $99.95 in BTC for ExpressVPN for 15 months or, if you are feeling frisky $12.95 in BTC for one month, you could find a user that would allow you to use them as an exit node and pay less. I'm not sure how this translates to not having a use. I guess you are saying, as of this time, I cannot use this for the purpose that has been mentioned. Which, as of right now, you are correct, you cannot currently purchase a VPN with ITNS. Ultimately, I think the comparison to ETN isn't really something that can be done.

The team and I realize that a new exchange is going to change a lot about this coin. We know that volume is low on Stocks.Exchange because of a lack of trust in them. As of right now, we are working on being listed on other exchanges. It's not as easy as just asking to be listed and we automatically go up on the exchange. Additionally, it's not as easy as throwing money at the exchange and having them place us on there. Being listed on another exchange takes more than that. I believe that this is something that just isn't thought about by the community. We are working on that as we have been for the past week. We are placing a heavy focus on being listed on another exchange moving forward because we know that this is a large concern for the community. Additionally, we are working on re-branding and the Web Browser Plug-In. As always, if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me.

Most altcoins fell in value, 70% to 90% from their peak value last December and January. Even Bitcoin fell, dragging the entire altcoin market with it. Unfortunately, Intense Coin suffered the same fate. That's just the nature of markets, they rise and fall.

Those who believe in the business value of Intense are now buying and still mining. To get the best profit, you buy when coin prices are low and sell when they are high. It would not help you if you buy high and whine when the prices fall. It is always a matter of knowing when to buy, hold and sell. Value coin investors are probably having the time of their life picking and buying coins with promising projects.

As for me, I'm holding my Intense coins and waiting for an official product release. The Intense team are active in the Discord and Slack channels. They know Intense needs new exchanges and they are working on it behind the scenes.

I like the plans they made for Intense and the transparency of most of the Intense team members. I doubt there is a coin out there that did not do an ICO but has a list of names and qualifications of its team members that anyone can check and verify.

you nailed it ...BRAVO

@wacko

OK, I see - you are in the Cryptomarket just to speculate on price despite you do not believe in any real usefulness of the coins. Well, but do not blame me for believing in some of them. And you should not even blame some banks or states that have recently found the blockchain and want to create their own cryptos. My core intention is to find coins that could be usefull, not the ones that can be very demandesd/expensive in the future (and fall later).

I have a big news for all the fudders - the price can RISE and the price can FALL, as well. That is probably the biggest mistake of our schools and universities that they show you just graphs with rising prices :-) And the ITNS price can also rise and it can also fall to 1 sat or even 0 sat. I am prepared for that - are you?

Umm, we're still talking about crypto, right? This whole market is a bubble, no one really needs even bitcoin, at least in its current form, and no one definitely needs all those hundreds if not thousands of shitcoins. These things exist mostly as a technological/social experiment and a speculative asset, so that some geeks could have fun and maybe even get reach in the process, but that's about it. Only naive noobs actually "believe" in coins, and expecting "an exceptional utility".. You must be new here. There's been so much stuff like this in the past ~ 5-7 years, promising all kinds of things. NONE of them worked, not a single one had and utility whatsoever. Even btc is barely usable, and makes little sense beyond paying for illegal stuff. The only real use for all the altcoins has always been just speculation on exchanges and nothing else.

What is a "strong demand for a coin"? Cryptocurrency is not food or some physical product, you don't consume it and you can't really do anything with it other than exchange it to something else (fiat most of the time, maybe some goods on very rare occasions, obviously not applicable to ITNS since you can't buy anything with it). The only purpose of this coin for most users is to buy it (with money, or their hardware, through mining) and then sell it, ideally for a lot more than what they paid for it. A few will maybe play with the vpn feature, if it ever gets done, but most vpn users will just keep using the regular vpn providers, paying for their service with btc. Let's not pretend there's much more to it, this has always been about speculation and most coins that do well simply do so because there's a good team of bullshitters marketing them, getting them to the exchanges etc. Compare ITNS to ETN, for example. Both just copied Monero and tried adding some extra crap to it. Doesn't seem like either of them succeeded with that (I'm not following ETN development closely, so maybe they did some of the things they were going to, not sure), but look where ETN is and where ITNS is. That's what marketing and getting to the right exchanges do for you.

@e6ug
In my opinion community is not attacking each other - just the restless ones are attacking the calm ones. Me, and the calm ones generally, have no reason to comply or attack.

Hey DEVS, Cryptobridge is charging a low listing fee, and seems to be working very smooth.  Maybe if you list ITNS the community will stop attacking each other 

@BobbyJones

"you think you know everything , any more guesses ?"
I do not think I know everything - and I did not state it anywhere. Any more words or statements you want to fake?
Maybe the reason why you think that I know everything is because I have an degree - that is the reason I am able to calculate numbers and not argue by my feelings - but that does not mean I know everything :-)

"when people see that ITNs is at SE they will hesistae to buy and rightly so"
When I had found out that ITNS is traded on Stocks.exchange, I have opened and account, sent some money, bought some intenses. That is what every person can do :-)
So far I am quite happy about Stocks.exchange and do not have any reason to comply.

I do not know your situation. I am just asking you: let the developers focus on the development and let the market set the price. So far - everything works just fine.

@wacko

To get strong demand for a coin you need a good product that people would need or want to buy - that means developing an interesting product first. To get strong demand for a coin just because it is listed on many exchanges doest not mean anything - it can just lead to a price bubble - exactly as .com bubble in 2000/2001. After the bubble burst, just the best ones have survived - and that is exactly what ITNS team should do - focuse on the development of an exceptional utility coin, not on exchanges and speculators.

Except there is no market at the moment, that's what this whole argument is about. Bigger exchanges give coins volume and exposure, which lead to more miners and investors. Which in turn motivates the devs to work harder — cause their coin is then actually worth something and they are justified to spend more time/effort on the development.

@BobbyJones

Why am I the worst kind of person? Because I advise developers to stay focused on the development of the product? That is their primary goal, not to care about the price and speculators. First - develop an excellent product, then let the market to set the price for it - either fly or die. © Fjody 2018

The price of ITNS has rised by 3x since its start - from 30 satoshis to 90 satoshis. That si 200 % profit per semester and 400 % per annum (read my previous post if you do not understand). Are you not happy about the 400 % profit??? 400 % p.a. is extremelly high (especially for a product that even does not even exist so far). That means 90 satoshis is still overvalued and should be much closer to the initial 30 satoshis.
I am buying now, I would buy if the price falls closer to 30 satoshis - and so can you - you can buy.

If you have bought your coins at a much higher price, do not blame the devs, do not blame any other people that bought at a lower price - you can blame just yourself. You should accept the fact that market sets the price (supply and demand). Expecting that the whole market will act exactly as you would like is what you can call being selfish :-)

Kid...go away, thank you!

You are an intelligent anti.
Somehow you see the intention to collect at a low price.